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Forum Post: Location: Zuccotti Park / Occupy Wall Street Movement

Posted 6 years ago on Jan. 14, 2013, 1:16 a.m. EST by KevinPotts (368)
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Location: Zuccotti Park / Occupy Wall Street Movement

“Why are you here? What are you protesting against?”, said the Content-Middle-Class-Democan-Republicrat to the Revolutionary-Occupier.

“I’m here because I’m sick of our entire economy and our entire fake-corrupt-political system being totally dominated and controlled by a-small-elite-group of greedy, power-hungry, irresponsible-and-apathetic-rich-people. I’m sick of being poor in The Most Wealthiest Nation on Earth. I’m sick of being a slave in “The Land of Freedumb”. I’m sick of being ignored and unrepresented in “The Land of De-mock-racy”. And I’m Protesting against ALL of THAT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7FPSFdkEc . http://www.nowpublic.com/world/none-are-more-hopelessly-enslaved-those-photo-02 . http://occupyla.tumblr.com/image/26289749536

Many believe that Capitalism is a great system and that it only needs to be regulated better. I totally disagree with that and believe the entire system is flawed because at its core it is based on exploitation and the anti-human ideology of survival-of-the-fittest. And if no one was willing to exploit anyone or to be exploited by anyone it could no longer exist. http://occupywallst.org/forum/abolish-capitalism/ . http://occupywallst.org/forum/ows-goal-should-be-to-replace-capitalism-with-demo/ . http://adoholik.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/workers_toolbox.jpg

Many also believe that we have a great system of “representative demockracy” and that we only need to Stop Supporting The Corporate-Owned-Two-Party-Duopoly, Exercise Our Denied Constitutional Right To An Article V Convention To Propose Amendments, Get Money Out of Politics, End Corporate Personhood, Abolish The Electoral College, Unite Our Common Interests, Demand Actual Representation From Our Representatives And Become Much More Interested, Educated And Involved In Our Political System to make it “function properly“. I totally disagree with that also (although I do believe ALL of That Needs To Happen in order to make progress possible) I believe the entire system of “representative demockracy” is flawed at its very core because (like capitalism) it concentrates power into the hands of the few over the many. (...) “Under the form of government agreed upon by the Founding Fathers, the electing body must obey the laws of the elected body. The electing body cannot create laws for itself. The electing body cannot revoke the laws of the elected body and the most that the electing body can do to affect the members of the elected body who choose not to represent the interests of the electing body is to continue electing members to the elected body. We are obliged to abide by their decisions but they are in no way obliged to abide by our public interests.” http://occupywallst.org/forum/all-of-this-needs-to-happen/ . http://occupywallst.org/forum/america-is-not-a-democracy-and-it-never-was-a-demo/#comment-907183 . http://www.directdemocracynow.org/

I’m here to Protest against ALL of THAT,

Plus Wealth Inequality, Corporatocracy, Systemic Poverty And The Poverty-Industrial-Complex, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/cornel-west_n_2092900.html . http://www.alternet.org/story/151018/10_steps_to_defeat_the_corporatocracy . http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/apcity/unpan002063.pdf . http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/tavis-smiley-poverty-democracy/ . http://www.nationalbcc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1488:the-peoples-enemy-poverty-industrial-complex&catid=63:beyond-the-rhetoric&Itemid=8

Plus America’s Corrupt-Two-Party-Duopoly And The Death of The Liberal Class, http://occupywallst.org/forum/americas-corrupt-two-party-duopoly/ . http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/once_again_--_death_of_the_liberal_class_20121112/

Plus Fervent-Arrogant-Blind-Loyal-Nationalism, Classism, Social Stratification And The Disunity of Our Nation And of The World, http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/faculty/scheff/36.html . http://www.classism.org/about-class/what-is-classism . http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/What-Divides-Us-Stratification.topicArticleId-26957,articleId-26879.html . http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/antiproduct/facelessnumbers.html . http://www.betterworld.net/quotes/diversity-quotes.htm . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_Forever . http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/house.htm . http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/superman-renounces-his-u-s-citizenship/ . http://www.un.org/en/ . http://glenroyhamden.blogspot.com/2013/01/this-movement-is-non-refundable.html

Plus Militarism, Imperialism, Violent Conflict Resolution And The Military-Industrial-Complex, http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/21/king-obama-drones-militarism-sanctions-iran . http://www.thepeacealliance.org/issues-advocacy/department-of-peace/index.html . http://www.challengemagazine.com/extra/054_069.pdf . http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/01/the-tyranny-of-defense-inc/308342/ . http://truth11.com/2010/10/18/eisenhower-warns-us-of-the-military-industrial-complex/ . http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket . http://pinterest.com/pin/513903007449110810/ . http://pinterest.com/pin/513903007449223298/ . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8rQNdBmPek . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH4pbRAm4LM . http://antiwar.com/

Plus Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction And The Constant Threat of Annihilation, http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/db_article.php?article_id=422 . http://hellemanworld.blogspot.com/2011/08/towards-nuclear-free-world.html . http://www.psysr.org/issues/disarmament/ . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_IV:_The_Quest_for_Peace . http://bubbawheat.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/superman4net.jpg?w=604&h=260

Plus The Coal, Oil, Gas And Nuclear Energy-Industrial-Complex And The Suppression of Alternative, New And Safe-Clean-Sustainable-Abundant-Free-Energy-For-The-Entire-Human-Population, http://vlashua.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-coal-oil-gas-nuclear-industries.html . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_energy . http://www.thrivemovement.com/

Plus Outrageous CORPORATE GREED, Skyrocketing Inflation And Stagnant Wages For The Lower 85% of American Workers Which Has TRIPLED THE COST OF LIVING Over The Past Four Decades, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHblGVzm2ak . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDgFiW2xtf0

Plus The Pharmaceutical And Medical-Industrial-Complex, http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pharmaceutical-industrial-complex-a-deadly-fairy-tale/15758 . http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/53/the-medical-industrial-complex/

Plus The War On Drugs And The Prison-Industrial-Complex, http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock . http://www.prisonindustrialcomplex.org/

Plus Academic Repression, The College-Industrial-Complex And The Failure By Design of Public Education, http://www.revolutionbythebook.akpress.org/academic-repression-book-excerpt/ . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_complex . http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30985.htm

Plus Manufacturing Consent And The Manipulation of Public Opinion And Behavior Through Intrusive Advertizing, Propaganda And The Multi-Media-Complex, http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/1992----02.htm . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AnB8MuQ6DU . http://pinterest.com/pin/513903007449057213/ . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs . http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/advertising-poison-hooked . http://occupywallst.org/forum/we-need-a-movement-to-get-money-out-of-the-mainstr/ . https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jrcJww9sMlc . http://www.youtube.com/BreakingTheSet . http://www.DemocracyNow.org/

Plus The "Federal" Reserve Act And The Private Banking Cartel "THE FED" Which Has Controlled And Manipulated The Entire Money Supply Into The Hands of THE SUPER-RICH-ELITE For The Past ONE HUNDRED YEARS, http://www.federal-reserve.net/whatisthefederalreservebank.htm . http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/quotes-about-the-federal-reserve-and-central-banking . http://endthefedusa.ning.com/ . http://www.abolishthefederalreserve.org/

Plus ---THE MONETARY SYSTEM ITSELF--- And ALL of The Unnecessary Suffering And Evil Perpetuated Upon The Entire Human Population That Results From Valuing Objects, Privileged-Oppressive-Power And Profit Over People, Enlightened Progress And Human Happiness. http://www.zeitgeistminneapolis.com/money . http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ . http://www.thevenusproject.com/ . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p03u2F3rm9E

I’m here to Protest against War, Poverty, Austerity, Corruption, Destruction, Pollution, Oppression, Exploitation, Wage-Slavery, Debt-Slavery, Capital Punishment, Corporal Punishment And Legal-Child-Abuse, Oligarchy And Plutocracy, Apathy, Psychopathy And Indifference, The-Silent-Majority, Attacks on Civil Liberties And Human-Rights, Police Brutality, Tyranny, Fascism And The Suppression/Criminalization of Non-Violent-Protesting-And-Dissent, Lack of A Real Democracy, Lack of Economic-Opportunity, Universal-Healthcare And A-Decent-Living-Wage, Lack of Access To Quality Education, Self-Sufficiency And Economic-Independance, Anti-Humanism And Dehumanization, Racism, Discrimination And Deodorization, Indoctrination And Mass-Mind-Manipulation, Conformity And Complacency, Cruelty And Injustice. I’m Here To Protest Against A LOT OF THANGS... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0PdeU87BM

So why are you here? And what are you protesting against?”, the Revolutionary-Occupier inquired of the Content-Middle-Class-Democan-Republicrat, who immediately became offended and infuriated at the audacious implications of such a radical claim that if accepted would completely shatter his comfortable world-view of everything to its very foundation.

Overwhelmed-in-denial-with-fear-of-change-and-misplaced-anger-in-his-disillusioned-heart he replied to the Revolutionary-Occupier, “I’m HERE To Protest Against YOU!

By Kevin Potts http://occupywallst.org/forum/this-is-the-voice-of-the-resistance-/




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[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (22837) 6 years ago

Awesome post. You summed it up nicely. Thank you. Those are the same reasons I am here.

[-] 2 points by KevinPotts (368) 6 years ago

Thanks! I’ve added a few more Atrocities to the list :-)

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (22837) 6 years ago

Quite excellent. Keep adding as you think of them. There are so many!

[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Capitalism turns people into commodities. And when they've exploited you to the fullest, they toss you aside. When they're done exploiting the land, they leave it destroyed and practically uninhabitable.

Want a peak at the ghost of Capitalism's future? Go to Camden, go to Immokalee, go to Gary or Jenkinjones West Virginia. Go to Foxconn. Go to Wal-Mart.

[-] 4 points by Builder (4202) 6 years ago

Want a peak at another future?

Go to Mars.

[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Took me a second to get that.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Sacrifice zones of one type or another.

[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Sad truth.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Worse - a significant portion of the population seems to be targeted for the same treatment.

Support Move To Amend People - we must end corpoRAT greed/insanity/destruction.

[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

to compliment your comment

8 Great Ideas that can be Accomplished Now While the Fake Politicians Act Like a Constitutional Amendment is Next to Impossible


[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Thx - I'LL have to check that out.

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

the 8 great ideas come from the wise Alan Grayson

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Good thoughts/Ideas must be shared out to all.

Feed thoughts of a better way to live - For ALL.

Such can feed the spirit/will.

[-] -1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

I love Grayson but I believe
most of those 8 are unconstitutional -
such as taxing political contributions - which the court rules is speech
money is speech & you can't tax free speech
an amendment would allow these kinds of laws.

The key is that 80% of Americans ALREADY support an amendment -
as do 100+ in congress & 1309 mayors


[-] 0 points by VQkag2 (16478) 6 years ago

Grayson is one of the few great progressives in power, and his 8 suggestions are fine but he knows & supports the amendment to overturn citizens united as well.

This is the way Occupy supports!


[-] -1 points by bensdad (8977) 6 years ago

Fake Politicians Act Like a Constitutional Amendment is Next to Impossible
Do you count Bernie Sanders and his constitutional amendment as fake?
Do you count Dennis Kucinich and his constitutional amendment as fake?

100+ in congress support an amendment as do 1309 mayors
but we are supposed to hate all politicians

[-] 3 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

Dennis and Bernie are not fake. They do not act like it is impossible. I said "fake politicians act like it's impossible."

You should learn to read. The congress has the ability to implement taxes. It is not unconstitutional.

I support all 8 of the ideas of Grayson. And if you went to the post, I also said I support a constitutional amendment. I'm saying these can be done now while the process for a constitutional amendment is delayed by fake politicians.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Addition to - "a constitutional amendment is delayed by fake politicians."

Or muddied or misdirected - generally fucked with for no good intentions for the people of the USA.

People support Move To Amend - a solid step forward to removing bullshit from our government.

[-] 4 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

an amendment is needed! It is the simplest way to ensure it stays in effect. All that can be done to get money out of politics should be supported!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33683) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

And taking it one clean step at a time is best ( least ways till we make real progress with straightening out government ) - one clean step supported for success in going forward as it points out those opposed that could really screw the People of the USA.

[+] -4 points by aville (-678) 6 years ago

dennis and bernie AND grayson are not fake, they're genuine idiots.

[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

so you just spend your days trolling an internet forum?


[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 6 years ago

no quite,.............just taking a break from painting the dining room.

[-] 5 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 6 years ago

stop breathing in the paint fumes.

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 6 years ago

latex paint,.........no harmful fumes. the trim looks great, the walls do too.

[-] 1 points by KevinPotts (368) 6 years ago


[-] 1 points by KevinPotts (368) 6 years ago

"Mass public education is one of the great achievements of American society. It has had many dimensions. One purpose was to prepare independent farmers for life as wage laborers who would tolerate what they regarded as virtual slavery.

The coercive element did not pass without notice. Ralph Waldo Emerson observed that political leaders call for popular education because they fear that "This country is filling up with thousands and millions of voters, and you must educate them to keep them from our throats." But educated the right way: Limit their perspectives and understanding, discourage free and independent thought, and train them for obedience.

The "vile maxim" and its implementation have regularly called forth resistance, which in turn evokes the same fears among the elite. Forty years ago there was deep concern that the population was breaking free of apathy and obedience.

At the liberal internationalist extreme, the Trilateral Commission - the nongovernmental policy group from which the Carter Administration was largely drawn issued stern warnings in 1975 that there is too much democracy, in part due to the failures of the institutions responsible for "the indoctrination of the young.""

"Some of the most insidious effects are on teaching and monitoring. The Enlightenment ideal of education was captured in the image of education as laying down a string that students follow in their own ways, developing their creativity and independence of mind.

The alternative, to be rejected, is the image of pouring water into a vessel and a very leaky one, as all of us know from experience. The latter approach includes teaching to test and other mechanisms that destroy students' interest and seek to fit them into a mold, easily controlled. All too familiar today."

Public Education "Failure by Design," By Noam Chomsky



[-] 2 points by KevinPotts (368) 6 years ago

(...) I think it’s blatantly obvious that The Republican Party Serves The Moneyed Interests And The Anti-Human Corporate Agendas of The War Mongering 1%, They Do Not Represent Us. But what is not so blatantly obvious to everyone (but should be) is that The Democratic Party ALSO Predominantly Serves The Moneyed Interests And The Anti-Human Corporate Agendas of The War Mongering 1%, They Do Not Represent Us Either. Both Parties Work Together like Tag-Team Wrestling Champions against The American People and against The Rest of The World. And they have Monopolized Practically The Entire Spectrum of Political Thought in this country -to the point where almost everyone has been brainwashed into actually believing “they are our only two choices” and that choosing between the two of them is actually the definition of what it means “to be free” and to “live in a democracy”. To say, “Well, at least the Democrats are a little bit better than The-Bat-Shit-Crazy-Republicans (they are the lesser-of-two-evils) and that’s why we should support them (?)” doesn’t say much at all in favor of “Democrats”. The Lesser-of-Two-Evils is still Evil and by supporting The Lesser-of-Two-Evils, it only perpetuates this corrupt-two-headed-corporate-state that continues-to-function-like-a-rigged-casino-against-The American People. This is (or at least should be) completely unacceptable. There has Never been a Revolution that Endorses the Status Quo http://occupywallst.org/forum/there-has-never-been-a-revolution-that-endorses-th/

“Those who rebel are our only hope. (…)” http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/why_im_voting_green_20121029/