Forum Post: Letters From NoWhere, Going to NoOne
Posted 11 years ago on Aug. 15, 2012, 11:33 a.m. EST by ZenDogTroll
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from South Burlington, VT
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Continued from: Operation Dragon Ate the Chickens
NJPD said 1 day ago at Aug. 13, 2012, 12:28 p.m. EST (delete)
I have been honest with you. I work for a governmental team. We are indexing the forum and searching for clues for "Operation Dragon".
You are an active poster prone to violent writings. We found many old posts containing threats. And, yesterday, you made a death threat for almost no reason, and now you talk about the blood of children. These are the reasons we have you on radar. Not only for the safety of all Americans, but also for your safety. The fact that you are cooperating does give you points.
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 13, 2012, 12:33 p.m. EST (delete)
if your point is to undermine your own credibility . . .
it does seem to be working . . ..
NJPD said 1 day ago at Aug. 13, 2012, 12:35 p.m. EST (delete)
My only point is to do my job which is to find out if the threats you posted on this website have any chance of being put into execution. Are you a threat or not? That is my question.
ZenDog said . . . Aug. 13, 2012, 12:39 p.m. EST (delete)
I certainly hope so, you lyin'
repelican
snake
It is my most fervent desire to find some means, any means to burn your pnac gallery of fools to the ground.
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 13, 2012, 1:30 p.m. EST (delete)
What's your stance on the issue with Mike?
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:45 a.m. EST (delete)
Could you give us more information about where you stand on this issue: http://occupywallst.org/forum/it-has-been-said-we-should-take-up-arms/
Do you really believe the American people should take up arms?
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:59 a.m. EST (delete)
read what I wrote
botnetchnyick
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 12:01 p.m. EST (delete)
So, I take it you agree that we can mark you down as "potentially dangerous"? If you had the chance to take up arms today, would you do it? If you could be the leader in a taking up of arms, would you feel comfortable in that position, would you feel at home?
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 12:08 p.m. EST (delete)
read what I wrote
botnetchnyick
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 12:13 p.m. EST (delete)
For the record - I do confess . . .
I confess I find it interesting that you send a message with such concerns right after I visited
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2012/08/12/18719389.php
This is very interesting - especially so since that webpage advocates a new version of mailbox baseball - using instead of mailboxes, cameras, which are to be found installed throughout our society today.
Let me say this:
I AM NOT INTIMIDATED.
YOU CAN KISS MY ASS
You are intent on one of two things, it is quite plain:
Intimidation, and failing that -
RADICALIZATION
kiss my ass
NJPD said . . . . 14, 2012, 4:50 p.m. EST (delete)
No one's here to intimidate anyone else. We are just doing our job - to serve and protect.
Do you know how many people we save each year by catching terrorists before they execute their plans? Let me tell you, there's a lot of 911s' that were avoided. You would be surprised! Your taxes pay for my job, and I intend to do it well.
The fact that you were targeted by our system shouldn't surprised you, it should instead prove to you that the government is doing their job! At the moment, this website is one of the most anti-government websites that exist. And, you are one of the most prolific posters here. And, you often use violent type rhetoric. The computer picks all that up, so it's pretty obvious we are sent here to clear the air sort of speak.
I'll be honest, from my experience you don't seem like a threat. But, of course, I have to do my job and check you out. I read your poems on the other site, and they convinced me you weren't a major threat. It's also pretty obvious from our research that you aren't very active in Vermont on the activism front. You pretty much limit your activities to the Internet which is the way we like it.
Hey, all I want is pro-Obama people on this site, instead of anarchists on the street! Keep your activities to typing and you won't have a problem.
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 5:26 p.m. EST (delete)
So you really are the police -
that is your contention.
Identification please.
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 10:59 p.m. EST (delete)
I'm a special agent. Even if I told you my name, you wouldn't find it in public records. i am not here to prove myself, that burden is on you. I'm just doing the job your taxes are paying me to do.
Now that we have each other's trust, perhaps you can tell me more about what inspires you to write poetry?
ZenDog said 11 hours ago at Aug. 14, 2012, 11:02 p.m. EST (delete)
You are saying you are a federal agent?
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:03 p.m. EST (delete)
I'm just a friend.
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:05 p.m. EST (delete)
so you are not in law enforcement?
NJPD said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:07 p.m. EST (delete)
That's not important. What matters is your honesty. You can refer to me as "RainbowSparrow". I'm searching for "Mother Hen".
ZenDog said . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:07 p.m. EST (delete)
identification
NJPD said . . . . . Aug. 14, 2012, 11:08 p.m. EST (delete)
Sounds like ACDC!
ZenDog said . . . . at Aug. 14, 2012, 11:15 p.m. EST (delete)
identification
NJPD said . . . . at Aug. 14, 2012, 11:51 p.m. EST (delete)
Rainbow Sparrow is the name.
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part three Letters From NoWhere, Going to NoOne
tell'em to fuck off
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I love this:
"Do you know how many people we save each year by catching terrorists before they execute their plans? Let me tell you, there's a lot of 911s' that were avoided. You would be surprised! Your taxes pay for my job, and I intend to do it well."
BULLSHIT! LE doesn't catch terrorists, the FBI manufactures them like those dumbasses that were cajoled into trying to "blow up" a bridge in Michigan or wherever. Like how Delorean was turned into a "drug dealer" through entrapment, or how MLK was killed by the mob, likely funded by the FBI. (no shit, read "An act of State").
LE is a bunch of Apes with M4s, MP5s and baseball bats running through a china shop trying to kill cockroaches, except the china is really our lives, civil rights, privacy, and freedom. Instead of just cleaning up the food filled kitchen, i.e. stop bombing the rest of the world to piss them off and come harass us, they SMASH away! Unfuckingbelievable...
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Law enforcement usually doesn't come out openly, there's no reason to, not until they break your door down at 5:15 am on a tuesday. Either they've replaced their "How to instill fear, lie to, and oppress the public - and love doing it" training with a kinder gentler, "Honesty, and respect for civil rights and the constitution", or you found one of the few somewhat respectable cops, but I'm not buying it.
BTW: you should never post anything that gives an indication you mean to threaten anyone, or follow through with a threat. That's just stupid. Even if this individual wasn't a cop, some cop reading through the posts could make a case to come pick you up.
They will blow down your door, shoot your dogs, and point guns at your wife and kids, parents or roommates (if you have any of those). Stupid stupid stupid. It's a good way to risk getting yourself killed. Don't become a statistic...
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Unfortunately, that torch has been carried diligently by the current administration as well, it's still the law, and it's been broadened, powers increased. Even we think we have nothing to fear from Obama, wait till the next guy... The power has been vested in the executive with no oversight, to kill, detain by the military, remove your citizenship, and send you to Uzbekistan to be boiled alive, to death for interrogation (what the CIA reserves for special detainees). It's like a Kafka story.
This shit is real. They have the power. The only thing holding them back is that Obama likely doesn't feel it's right to go there, the public outcry, and by black bagging citizens, they just might kick off a civil war. But Obama won't always be president, and eventually we'll get somebody who will do it.
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Of course nobody wants back-alley rules, but they're being applied already, mostly through quiet intimidation tactics at this point. Have you seen the William Binney (NSA) interview on Democracy Now!? He had the 5am FBI raid to his house to intimidate him out of taking the NSA program to the Judiciary comittee. Also in the same interview was a journalist, and a computer security guy that are harassed every time they cross the border. Chris Hedges is rightfully scared about the direction things are going. Brute force intimidation is the first step, but each concurrent step becomes easier.
Here's the william binney interview: http://www.democracynow.org/appearances/william_binney
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It's awesome, scary, but awesome. Thank god there are still people that are willing to stand up. The wistleblowers are coming out, but the agencies are doing everything they can to smash them. The NRO is now using crazy tactics against wistleblowers now too.
The interview is the exclusive down the page I sent you earlier, or direct here: www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/exclusive_national_security_agency_whistleblower_william
It's 2 parts, but the link for the 2nd shows up when you're finished with the first.
Another must watch is from another NSA exec who left: Andrew Drake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMy2ZbPkyvw
Binney just did another interview that's on the web with a hacker conference HOPE9 http://privacysos.org/node/759
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Wow what a whacky nut - NJPD(?) or is it vvvRustybuttheadBrucie the PR shill trying out a new form of attack? Intimidation through PM ? We all know his open forum attacks were cheesy - now he is tryin to play paranoia self destroya? Would make sense that he is only using PM's and targeting individuals on the forum that he could not get around with his BS.
Zen, they are banned. Stop replying to them in private messages and you won't have to deal with it. Be a big boy and leave it be man. Unless you like stress, need a few more grey hairs? I know I don't
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Can I be daddy rooster?
What does NJPD really stand for?
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Like they're gonna do that?
It's just some goof ball trying to get your goat.
Not
Just
Pedantic
Dysporia
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Could be trashy could be vvvRustyButtHeadBrucie the Hack PR Shill. Hard to tell the two apart sometimes - twin brothers of different mothers? Both social malcontents?
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Yeah - they both(?) seemed to love using sock puppets - trashy would get confused as to which puppet he was - very funny.
Bait 'em out into the open.
No fear!
I don't give a crap who it might be.
I wanna piece of him. Like you, I HATE BS!
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If he stays in PMs, just ignore them.
That might bring him out to the boards.
You know he wants the attention.
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vvvBoltneck was also placing trapwire stories - though the mods seem to have gotten those.
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It may well have been because of all of the links he places back to his PR BS.
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There was another one it was late night around 1:AM your time - new name author ( no score ) but it had all of the same links - same content - but had a different slant to it in the title. Something about trying to organize a game of mailbox baseball - only to use security cameras instead of mailboxes. It looked like a call to organize and do vandalism - perhaps trying to smear the forum with the idea. Anyway it disappeared off of the forum list pretty quickly.
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It is all in how the technology is used. Can be beneficial can be detrimental. Anyway it is another aspect of Orwell's 1984.