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Forum Post: john roberts announced it - the 2014 election starts today!

Posted 1 year ago on June 25, 2013, 11:17 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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Do you know any of the millions of unregistered citizens?


HELP THEM REGISTER & GET PHOTO ID


CITIZENS WITHOUT PROOF:
A SURVEY OF AMERICANS’ POSSESSION OF DOCUMENTARY
PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP AND PHOTO IDENTIFICATION

Summary
A recent national survey sponsored by the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law reveals that millions of American citizens do not have readily available documentary proof of citizenship.
Many more – primarily women – do not have proof of citizenship with their current name.
The survey also showed that millions of American citizens do not have government-issued photo identification, such as a driver’s license or passport.
Finally, the survey demonstrated that certain groups – primarily poor, elderly, and minority citizens – are less likely to possess these forms of documentation than the general population.

From November 16-19, 2006, the independent Opinion Research Corporation conducted a telephone survey of 987 randomly selected voting-age American citizens. The survey included several questions sponsored by the Brennan Center, asking whether respondents had readily available documentary proof of citizenship or government-issued photo identification, and if so, whether it contained current information:

1 Do you have a current, unexpired government-issued ID with your picture on it, like a driver’s license or a military ID?

2 If yes, does this photo ID have both your current address AND your current name (as opposed to a maiden name) on it?

3 Do you have any of the following citizenship documents (U.S. birth certificate/U.S. passport/U.S. naturalization papers) in a place where you can quickly find it if you had to show it tomorrow?

4 If yes, does [that document] have your current name on it (as opposed to a maiden name)?

Survey results: proof of citizenship

As many as 7% of United States citizens – 13 million individuals – do not have ready access to citizenship documents.
Seven percent of the American citizens surveyed responded that they do not have ready access to U.S. passports, naturalization papers, or birth certificates.2 Using 2000 census calculations of the citizen voting-age population, this translates to more than 13 million American adult citizens nationwide who cannot easily produce documentation proving their citizenship.

Citizens with comparatively low incomes are less likely to possess documentation proving their citizenship. Citizens earning less than $25,000 per year are more than twice as likely to lack ready documentation of their citizenship as those earning more than $25,000. The survey indicates that at least 12 percent of voting-age American citizens earning less than $25,000 per year do not have a readily available U.S. passport, naturalization document, or birth certificate.

Documentation proving citizenship often does not reflect the citizen’s current name. Many of those who possess ready documentation of their citizenship do not have documentation that reflects their current name. For example, survey results show that only 48% of voting-age women with ready access to their U.S. birth certificates have a birth certificate with current legal name – and only 66% of voting-age women with ready access to any proof of citizenship have a document with current legal name.

Using 2000 census citizen voting-age population data, this means that as many as 32 million voting-age women may have available only proof of citizenship documents that do not reflect their current name.

Unless otherwise indicated, the margin of error for these survey results, to a 95% confidence level, is ±2%.

We note that 135 respondents indicated that they had both a U.S. birth certificate and U.S. naturalization papers. This most likely indicates confusion on the part of the respondents, who might not have understood what a “naturalization certificate” is. Because these 135 individuals most likely do possess some documentary proof of citizenship, whether birth certificate or naturalization papers, they have been included for purposes of these results with survey respondents who indicated that they do possess citizenship documents. If these 135 respondents were excluded from the total sample, the remaining population would have revealed an even larger portion (nine percent) without documentary proof of citizenship.

The survey did not yield statistically significant results for differential rates of possession of citizenship documents by race, age, or other identified demographic factors.

Survey results: photo identification

As many as 11 percent of United States citizens – more than 21 million individuals – do not have government-issued photo identification. Eleven percent of the American citizens surveyed responded that they do not have current, unexpired government-issued identification with a photograph, such as a driver’s license or military ID. Using 2000 census calculations of the citizen voting-age population, this translates to more than 21million American adult citizens nationwide who do not possess valid government photo ID.

Elderly citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification. Survey results indicate that seniors disproportionately lack photo identification. Eighteen percent of American citizens age 65 and above do not have current government-issued photo ID. Using 2005 census estimates, this amounts to more than 6 million senior citizens.

Minority citizens are less likely to possess government-issued photo identification. According to the survey, African-American citizens also disproportionately lack photo identification. 25% of African-American voting-age citizens have no current government-issued photo ID, compared to eight percent of white voting-age citizens.

Using 2000 census figures, this amounts to more than 5.5 million adult African-American citizens without photo identification.
Our survey also indicated that 16% of Hispanic voting-age citizens have no current government-issued photo ID.

Citizens with comparatively low incomes are less likely to possess photo identification. Citizens earning less than $35,000 per year are more than twice as likely to lack current government-issued photo identification as those earning more than $35,000.
The survey indicates that at least 15 percent of voting-age American citizens earning less than $35,000 per year do not have a valid government-issued photo ID.

Photo identification often does not reflect current information. For many of those who possess current, valid government-issued photo ID, the documentation does not reflect their current information. For example, survey results show that ten percent of voting-age citizens who have current photo ID do not have photo ID with both their current address and their current legal name. The rate is higher among younger citizens:
as many as 18 percent of citizens aged 18-24 do not have photo ID with current address and name; using 2004 census tallies, that amounts to almost 4.5 million American citizens.

This figure is consistent with official government estimates.
The 2005 Carter-Baker Commission, for example, cited the U.S. Department of Transportation and the U.S. Census Bureau in finding that approximately twelve percent of the national voting-age population does not possess a driver’s license.

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[-] 0 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Help get everyone who is eligible to Vote get Registered to Vote, now. This helps solve the problem of our lowest Voter Turnout status.

Voter ID cards are used by the GOP to suppress Votes, under the specious guise of Voter Fraud. Voter Fraud it not a real problem, it's a GOP Lie.

Election Fraud is rampant and steals elections with various RepubliCon Voter Suppression tactics (ie. Voter Caging, District Gerrymandering, Voter ID cards, etc.) and getting rid of Republicans solves this problem.

[-] -1 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

The 2014 Election started with "Fast & Furious" and Benghazi scandal envy. Now it's IRS and NSA. Don't be bamboozled Voters, don't let the Cons 2010-Bag us again! They just added the murder of the Voter's Rights Act to CU! These are, both, reasons to Vote them (Cons/GOP) OUT and ways that Cons will try to STEAL Election '14. Tell a friend.

[-] 2 points by Sandy0621 (175) 1 year ago

Simply voting for any Democrat isn't much help. If no one is willing to begin an organized movement to find good people to run from multiple districts with a common goal. Your only trading in a choker chain for a soft collar, either way you're still on a leash.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

The Best 99%ers

Bernie Sanders
Elizabeth Warren
Alan Grayson
Wendy Davis ( TX )

James Clyburn
Tom Harkin
Al Franken
Tammy Duckworth
Sherrod Brown
Amy Klobuchar Patty Murray
Angus King
Sheldom Whitehouse
Ron Wyden
John Conyers
Donna Edwards
Peter Defazio
John Lewis
Ed Markey
Rick Nolan Mark Pocan

Yes – none are perfect,
but would ANY of their R opponents have done
ANYTHING better than they did? ANYTHING?
Are there ANY electable candidates that you think are better?


Vote for the progressive - anti-corporation - 99% supporters

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Franken, Harkin, Brown, and Warren all voted AGAINST Bernie, and on the side of POISONING US.

If thats our current version of "not perfect" then we are really screwed.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6861) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

No but simply defeating ANY Republican is.

In the end if you don't do that then you have failed.

[-] 3 points by Sandy0621 (175) 1 year ago

Defeating Republicans only keeps the game going on as has been. What's wrong with trying to actually go further and win for a change?

You talk as though Democrats get their money from some untainted source. Right now they are the lesser of two evils, but you can't afford to ignore that both are evil.

I'd like to see a movement that could reach into many congressional districts and recruit good people to run. Actually make a change for the better in the Democratic party.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6861) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

You wish only to feed your own ego, you care nothing for America.

If you are so blind that you cannot see the pure evil that is the GOP then you are blind as a bat. I suspect you see that evil just fine your ego longs to rule, like so many others before you and it prevents you from taking effective action, so the 1% win. That is the only way a tiny minority can win they keep us fighting to be on top instead of doing what we can do to stop them. So Nader puts his name on the ballot and Bush puts his ass in the White House!

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

lesser of two evils is still fucking evil. btw i don't know that obama is the lesser evil of anything did bush have a secret kill list of people to off that he kept on him?

[-] -3 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

So you want names?

I'm immune to RW Strawman and false comparison twaddle.

There's a telling lack of solution in your missive.

Democracy is no more a leash than a traffic light is.

So the RepubliCon smear, distortion and false association beat goes on in service to the 1% of the 1% they worship.

Voting Cons out is a great start.

[-] 4 points by Sandy0621 (175) 1 year ago

No I don't want names. My point is that simply voting for someone based on the D after his name isn't enough. While it's nice to beat Republicans that doesn't really end the influence of money. I'd like go further.

The system itself is flawed. If you are going to participate in it then I would suggest you recruit people that wish to work for positive change and convince them to tack that D after their name and run.

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Your point is specious.

Cons and their 1% masters are the problem.

Democracy is their enemy, and so they are our mortal enemy.

Unite and Win! 2010 Never EVER again!

[-] 3 points by Sandy0621 (175) 1 year ago

Those that buy influence are the problem, those that trade their responsibility for money are the problem. While many of those bought off with that money have an R after their name, so do many that have a D. I'm not saying vote for Republicans. I'm saying it's not enough just to vote D.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (6638) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Exactly right, but don't think you'll ever talk sense into some of these people. We've been saying that for over a year and a half and they still don't get it. To them we're "right-wing shills," "idiots," "traitors," or "Koch tools." You'd think with Obama they'd have seen the light.

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[-] -1 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Democracy is messy and perfection doesn't exist. Everything is a choice of lesser or greater evil. The money in politics was/is a deviously contrived poison to repel Voters and destroy democracy. Big $ owns the Media/Cons/DINOs and, with such low Voter Turnout, coerces Dems. Leaving a whole lot of people uninvolved and unaware, EXACTLY the way Big $ wants us!

[-] 3 points by Sandy0621 (175) 1 year ago

Democracy isn't messy so much as it's work. In my opinion, solution that is easy (just vote out R's) is likely to be a poor solution to our problems. If you are going to stay with the system then you should use it properly. Start looking for new people, good people to run in primaries. You need to get rid of any incumbents that get their support from corrupt sources and replace them with better candidates. Fine to focus on the R's first, as I said earlier, the D's are the lesser of two evils, but still evil.

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

The further back you go, the more disgusting each of these parties becomes.

[-] -2 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Democracy is necessarily messy, because there are many People with many diverging interests, contributing. Plutocracy is neat and orderly, just obey the 1% of the 1% , redistribute wealth accordingly, nevermind the plight of the 99%.

That's right we are all "Sinners" but there are worlds of evil differences between Darayll Issa and Alan Grayson!! Understand, when you wrestle with pigs, you get dirty, but that doesn't make you a pig. It's an old ploy of the RW to devise and promote these false equivalencies. In confusion and chaos, all sorts of malfeasance is possible. And the GOP are masters at that.

Don't worry about treating the Cons unfairly, that Cult has thrown the 99% and the country under the bus long ago in their singular allegiance and worship of the 1%!

[-] 2 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

this is no democracy, this is controlled opposition.

[-] 2 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

It's corporatized democracy, only because the electorate has been duped.

[-] 1 points by pityben (-2) 1 year ago

Yeah, you obamaphiles have certainly been duped wsmith, bensdad, ericweiss, et al

[-] -1 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Of course NONE of you RW, Con, Free Market, or Unicorn supporters have been duped in any possible way!!!!!????

There's no perfection. Choose the lesser evil. OR bring in the people and demand MUCH BETTER!!! When we all (or large masses) get involved, and make demands we get what we want. The more the better!

[-] -2 points by DKAtoday (28238) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

OK - new here? - somehow I don't think so - but you do get my pity anyhow.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

oh, that's the ONLY reason. just one of many. for example the corporate owned media did the duping. the politicians were paid off. the political party leadership corrupted and has been at least since the 1930s probably since just after the founding fathers.

[-] -1 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Yep, democracy is messy. Would you prefer a nice neat dictatorship?

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

you call that democracy? wow you are a fucking idiot. the fuck is democratic about it???

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2079) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

OK, democracy in action.

Just sliming here does not make democracy work, you have to petition and protest and vote!!

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

i will not say that which we must do. we all know that which we really have to do. life as it is simply cannot, must not go on.