Forum Post: The Marches to REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act & to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators. Let's get Focused--We don't need to REINVENT the Wheel--This will Reinstate the Important Regulations we had from 1933 to 1999--Before Congress SHATTERED them!
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 27, 2011, 6:04 p.m. EST by Howtodoit
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Here's how WE easily Reform Wall Street: WE take away their powers "Once Again." And I feel one of the best ways to help accomplished this is a Million People March to Capitol Hill! --And in every City & Town that Day!
How do we do it right? First, we need to have specific demands; such as, "Congress, we are here because we want you to REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 http://law.jrank.org/pages/7165/Glass-Steagall-Act.html , which was created to help SAVE our Country from the Great Depression by preventing Investment Companies, Banks, and Insurance Companies from Merging and becoming Large Brokerage Firms--instead of just being Banks, Insurance Companies, and Investment Companies--Congress why can't you learn a history lesson from 1929? The Current System doesn't work, except for the 1%, twice again now! By the way, why did most of you vote for the major Repeal of G-S Act in 1999? See more here: "Shattering the Glass-Steagall Act" http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/09/19/shattering-the-glass-steagall-act
How did we all come to this conclusion? We learned how Senator Phil Gramm helped create "Legal" Gambling Casinos for our Banks: CNN's The 10 Most Responsible for Economy Collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKQOxr2wBZQ&feature=related
Furthermore Congress, we also want you to REPEAL the Commodities Future Modernization Act of 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000 and REINTSATE the Commodity Futures Trading Commission Act of 1974 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Trading_Commission Why? As you know the Commodities Future Modernization Act of 2000 has since Deregulated Energy Markets (and Derivatives) and consequently allowed for such schemes as The Enron Loophole; whereas in the early 2000's Enron Corp. was charging 250 bucks plus for a kilowatt hour...they went to Jail for this; but, the Enron loophole is still not Completely Closed. For example, allowing Energy Speculators to hoard and resell barrels of Oil over and over again before it reaches the Gas Station Owner! It's basically, Legal Gambling at our Expense! What were those Lawmakers thinking then? What are you thinking now? With all due respect, either do the right thing, or you're part of the 1%."
So why are Oil Prices High? The Enron Loophole is not Completely Closed. What is The Enron Loophole?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/81243-the-enron-loophole
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html?pagewanted=all
Former Director of U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Professor Michael Greenberger, speaks to Congress in 2008 on the High Price of Oil--and he's not happy about Energy Deregulations, especially The Loopholes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmj_FhyEpxo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
Although, the 2008 Farm Bill and 2010 Dodd-Frank Act http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/rpt/2011-R-0290.htm supposedly Closed The Enron Loophole; but, most Experts say that both didn't go Far Enough! In the other words, The Loophole is still Open! Which seems to affect us all every time we hear a Oil shortage Story...(love to get Michael Greenberger to help us reinstate Commodities Futures Act of 1974).
Public Citizen takes on Wall Street's Greed & Corruption: http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=2554
Back to G-S Act: Rolling Stones's Journalist Matt Taibbi on the Truth about Goldman Sachs, or How they have Cornered the Markets--Basically, The Enron Loophole and the Shattering of Glass-Steagall Act in 1999: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waL5UxScgUw
What happened when some in Congress tried to SAVE the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999? http://www.occasionalplanet.org/2010/10/07/glass-steagall-one-democratic-senator-who-got-it-right/ And when some tried to REINSTATE The Glass-Steagall Act in 2009? (cut to the chase--it was blocked by both parties from coming-up for a vote on the Senate Floor) : http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aQfRyxBZs5uc
Let's get Focused and REINSTATE the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933; they got it right in 1933, so we don't need to REINVENT the wheel...and let's Finally Close The Enron Loophole, which allowed Enron to charge what they wanted for Energy; they went to Jail for this; but no one Completely Closed the Loophole, why? Re-Election Monies from the Big Brokerage Firms! The Writing is on the Wall.
Next, let's get Organized and Reinstate these Critical Financial Reforms with a Million People March to Capitol Hill! And in every City/Town in the World. And considering we need a Strong Central Focus/Goal, maybe call it:
"The Million People March to Capital Hill to Reinstate The Glass-Steagall Act and to Finally Close The Enron Loophole."
That will get their Attention!
And how about holding the March on this Date? June 16, 2012, the 79th Year Anniversary of the Enactment of the Glass-Steagall Act. (great idea paulg4!)
And besides being Symbolic, that will get their Attention Now!
Additionally, I also feel this needs to be the OWS's first BIG Victory (as name implies)--And with all due respect, I feel you owe it to the WS Protestors to get something done that they can really be Proud Of--And there is nothing Bigger on Wall Street than Reinstating The G-S Act and Closing these Loopholes.
Either way, America & the World will achieve this Huge Task!
Since you brought it up, I guess we all know now that, as with a lot of the GOP and Democrats and with all due respect President Obama, he also has to be a somehow connected to Wall Street (Sorry Sir--but I voted for you--Bush way before--Total Independent). I hear Goldman-Sachs gave him like 18 mil in 2008; is that also why a lot of his Finance Committee members are from Goldman-Sachs? So since he's not going to do it, dam, I want my vote back for CHANGE! And Now, while we have the World's Attention, it's time for us to CHANGE it! And I feel the best way is to go back to the Wall Street Regulations we had in place in 1999/2000. After all, it worked fine for 66 years! Before...
Just Twitted this (Dec 7th):
I don't hold it against any Senator Voted for GLB Act. At Time, easy let Guard Down--Now Facts are Conclusive--Let's Forgive/Forget--USA 1st
& This:
Regarding Energy Traders, I want to Make this Clear to the World: This is now their Fault, but the Lawmakers who Changed the Rules!
For everyone new to this Forum, it is what it is, just a Forum so far, an IDEA Up for Discussion; one, obviously I like. One I feel that could not only go a long way for OWS; but, even more importantly, our Whole Country. Why? Because We can't fix Wall Street and Create more Jobs until we make Congress break-up the Big Financial Giants; so then they have to release the Trillions of Cash they are sitting on into the Economy, make sense? After all, that's was a big part of how they fixed the problem in 1933 for Future Generations!
Btw, I not an official member of OWS or anything but Meals on Wheels (and if anyone from WDC is curious, for MOW's I do have my Level 2 Homeland Security Background Clearance). I just saw an opportunity here with this OWS Forum to hopefully help more people understand how and why we got into this financial mess, and one way to fix it. That's all. God Bless America!
Here's the Original posting on 10/21/11: (only thing different is the Comments) http://occupywallst.org/forum/lets-get-focused-and-bring-back-glass-steagall-act/
Additionally, please see the link below for a short video History Lesson about how and when this mess all started: or in other words, when the Glass-Steagall Act was thrown out and replaced by Gramm-Leach Bliley Act of 1999. Plus, "The Warning"-- how they also dismantled our CFTC in 1999-2000:
"The Day the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 Came Up for a Vote: Senator Byron Dorgan takes the Senate Floor Against It and Try's to Save the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933! Before We March, Let's all get on the Same Page: A History Lesson & Call to Action... http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-the-gramm-leach-bliley-act-of-1999-came-up/
How come we don't hear about this stuff daily on the local or national news? Why? I don't know. I grew up in 60-70's (before cable) when most thought that when we received news from news organizations, it was the facts (or close), after all, that's when 60 mInutes was born, which besides PBS, I feel is still the next best thing we have now for accurate unbiased opinion now...
With all due respect, my question for the Media is: You all daily pose this question of how do we fix our Economy? Come on you all went to College, you read the newspapers, watch the other stations, emails, blogs, etc. So why can't you all united and help us get the obvious accomplished; and that is to Reinstate our Regulatory system of 1999 & 2000, before Congress shattered it! Or in other words, The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 and the CFTC Act of 1974/1936.
We need your help hear TV, Radio, Newspapers, and Websites: please uncover this crisis and help us all solve it, now! After all, you have the Power to let all America know overnight what really went wrong, and how we are all now going to fix it!...and if you don't, all that says to me is that you are Wall Street Puppets too--btw, who owns you? Is that it? Please help explain it to a simple mind...however, we do have some activist/media hero's in this fight; such as:
Public Citizen, Matt Taibbi, James Galbrath, Marcus Mabry, Senator Byron Dorgan, Senator Maria Cantwell, Senator Ted Kaufman, Elizabeth Warren, Professor Harvey Goldschmid, Americans for Financial Reform, former Director of CFTC Professor Michael Greenberger, and former Chair Brooksley Born; plus Journalist William Kaufman, Madonna Gaulding, Sam Stein, Gretchen Morgenson, Eric Lipton, etc.
Plus, How can I leave out Ralph Nader (Public Citizen #1), PBS, FRONTLINE, Bill Moyers, 60 Minutes, the OWS and their Chapters, The Other 99%, Senator Sanders, Dylan Ratigan Show, The Ed Show, Keith Oblermann Show, Rachel Maddow Show, Jon Stewart Show, Colbert Nation, Robert Reich, The Young Turks, Better Markets, Gene Guilford, The Checks and Balances Project, and www.stopoilspeculationnow.com etc. (sorry for who I left out).
Furthermore, I feel the key to making this MARCH a success is that we also need people from "all walks of life" to come together and join this Mission: To Remake American into the Financial Giant it once was! One before the Wall Sreet Casinos Opened!
So everyone, please join us! As far as I'm concerned, this is not just a OWS March, this is a March for all of America & the World! One everyone needs to be a part of; otherwise, it might be Impossible to achieve this Huge Task! It's the BIG Whale First Folks! Someone sign up Captain Ahab!
Here's my Proposal on "How to Accomplish the Marches for the Return of the Glass-Steagall Act and to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators." http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
Sincerely,
Howtodoit
Concerned Citizen
Red & blue, they are the same. both getting paid by the same people.
The closer I scrutinize these two "opposing" parties, the more similar I realize they actually are. The majority within each party both vote identically when it comes to all the Biggest issues that are afflicting our country. The wars, the bailouts etc etc
The very few individuals who vote against these things are scarce on both sides. You have to search, and know who's who on both sides of the aisle. Although they be the scant minority within the gaggle of those who would have you believe they are really representing the people of the United States of Americas interest, they ARE there if you look.
Their voting record is all you can rely on though because you cant take these peoples words for anything. They'll tell you anything you wanna hear. Their voting record tells all though so I dont even pay attention to their words anymore.
Glass Steagall Will Divide Them. Let the Banks Fail. This is Not a Left-Right Issue. Liberate the Economy with Sound Money, Economic Freedom, Reinstate Position Limits on Investment Banks, Restructure The Banks! Investigate Fraudulent Accounting Tricks That Hide MORE Debt Yet To Be Discovered. Glass Steagall Will Divide Them!
there's no difference at all. And whenever any politician stands up and does the right thing the media spreads the propaganda far and wide that that person is a loon.
yes, and I cant believe Alan Grayson didn't get re-elected, for instance. Forgive me if I don't mention others, but they are there if you look. ;)
I Wish could attend the OWS NYC meeting tonight (I live FL); However, if you ask me what the next Step should be? I would suggest to form a Committee/Alliance with Public Citizen, Americans for Financial Reform, Elizabeth Warren, the former Chair of CFTC Brooksley Born, and former Director Michael Greenberger to find out exactly how to Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act and how to Reel in Oil Speculators (or Close The Loopholes). Plus many others...(see Above, way up!)
We can't fix Wall Street and Create more Jobs until we make them break-up the Big Financial Giants; so then they have to release the Trillions of Cash they are sitting on into the Economy, make sense? That's the reel deal folks....the root of How to Create more jobs! That's what happened in 1933!
Good luck my friends, I will meet you in WDC when we hold this March, whatever day that might be! I say sooner the better--And we don't let up NATIONWIDE until it's done, and we do not Elect Anyone into Office who doesn't have the Same Mind set; or in other words, they feel G-S Act must be Reinstated Now, and that we must Now also Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators! Why has a barrel of oil just shot up 20 bucks? It's not caused by supply and demand problem!
PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD! Love you all! Go get 'em! Hit them where it hurts the most! And where it HELPS Americans the MOST!
More great links on the Oil Speculation Hearings in 2008; check it out, George Soros speaks first, head of OPEC second link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO0ITdeTfKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j6Xx0xO4M4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlTVYOu2M4Q&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzwtEs9T_W8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA8AfcWkIc4
Yes...how the hell do we get this message out to voters? This is really important.
One way to get the word out on the 6/16/12 March is to post this link on everyone's Facebok page. Please help spread the word; so we finally have our old Regualtions back in place--so we all can sleep better knowing; at least, this is a Done Deal! It's a great start!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
So far, to let everyone know what we (at least some of us) are up to, I have reached out to by email to almost everyone that either wrote a story on the Forum, or was Featured on a youtube link; such as William Kaufman, Public Citizen, James Galbrath, Marcus Mabry, Matt Taibbi, Senator Byron Dorgan, Senator Maria Cantwell, Sam Stein, Eric Lipton, and my main people for CFTC reform: Professor Michael Greenberger---don't know how to reach former Chair Brooksley Born!
Last week, I also Twitted this to the following:
Million People March to WDC to Reinstate Glass-Steagall Act. When? 6/16/12, 79th Anniv of G-S Act.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
Ralph Nader, OWS, OWS Times, The Other 99, Matt Taibbi, Senator Maria Cantwell, Senator Ted Kaufman, Senator Sanders, Dylan Ratigan Show, Ed Show, Keith Oblermann Show, Rachel Maddow Show, Jon Stewart Show, Finance Reform Org, RB Reich, People's Congress, POPVOX.com
Cheers
Let's get this Done first, than we will have the Power to move on to....And as far as the Date 6/16/12 is concerned, it started TODAY! Hopefully, we will have in the bag by then...
Update on oil speculators: CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton said in a March 25, 2011 letter to Cantwell that oil speculation is at “an all time high,” up 64 percent since June of 2008. According to analysis compiled by Chilton, excessive oil speculation costs drivers between $8-16 per tank, depending on the kind of car they drive. The Wall Street Reform bill approved last year called for the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) to implement speculative position limits in energy markets within 180 days of enactment. The CFTC is more than three months late on their January 2011 deadline to take action, while consumers continue to pay high prices at the pump, a press release from Cantwell's office states.
more here: http://murray.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pattyinnews?ContentRecord_id=89c8f1f4-47a3-4908-9d1b-3eb6d80e7909
The Energy Loophole is still Open!
It amazes me that so little media attention is paid to the derivatives market, 600 trillion worth, unregulated, teeming with speculators, which are bringing down sovereign governments, Greece, maybe now Italy, and then Spain. What the hell is going on in the banking world? They are destroying the global economy.
hey mvjobless, just wanted to make sure you saw this: What are Derivatives? Professor Michael Greenberger explains it in 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kExdTgNZA&feature=channel
If you don't have the time to watch to whole C-SPAN show, fast forward to 22 minutes in, right before where a caller from NY asks a great question. The Professor, again, explains it in plain english...also love he's "Wild West" analogy 34 minutes into the interview.
Great Comment you made on Derivatives
Thanks for the info, will look for it in the Cspan archives, I am a big fan of CSpan. I wish more people would focus on dismantling the destructive derivatives market, it really is a criminal enterprise, even worse than a ponzi scheme I think.
you welcome partmer, go C-SPAN! and think you will like this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLzuTxhhklY&feature=related
I know, and why isn't this a MAJOR part of OWS movement now? Marching to End Excessive Oil Speculation? After all, that's how you hurt them hard...get them back.. and more important help consumers at the PUMP. As they say the foxes on WS are still guarding the hen house...our CFTC http://www.cftc.gov/index.htm
"It's going to be all right"--Senate will restore our old Glass-Steagall Act & @CFTC Act. After they repeal Dodd-Frank, GLB Act & 2000 CFTC Act
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3JrUl4OGk&feature=youtu.be
Latest Update 11/3 on OIl Speculators: Why is oil up $96 a barrel? Oil speculators like Goldman-Sachs are still successfully working The Dodd-Frank Act Loophole, which is WS's lobbyist 1# goal: let us hoard and resell barrels of oil over and over again before it reaches the gas station owner! We have to get this accomplished soon:
EXCESSIVE SPECULATION AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE DODD-FRANK ACT Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations Thursday, November 3, 2011 09:00 AM Dirksen Senate Office Building, room SD-342
go here for more: http://www.citizen.org/documents/TysonHSGACspeculation.pdf
Another Post for communications.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/six-degrees-of-seperation-use-it/
Spread the word.
Here's another good bubble story...Dr. Mark Cooper on oil speculators..he nails it too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ii_Xo_vnI&feature=related
please share this link: http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
I'm trying to let the world know, I'm just a soldier
spread this article by Joseph Stiglitz!!! He is a recipient of the Nobel Prize 2001 in Economic Sciences:
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-201105.print
Right-On!!!
Yes,and Obama won the peace prize and is killing people left and right (even American citizens) so it's kind of hard to set any store by someone winning a Nobel prize.
Repitition and massive energy
thank you!
Yes the march will be a very good thing. I would just like to see all of us in the movement prime the pumps starting now. This issue as well as many (all) others should be directly communicated to those who are in office right now. Lets see what kind of affect direct advocacy can have.
Spread the word. Six degrees of separation combined with direct contact could be extremely powerful.
Contact the White house: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
Contact the senate: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Contact Congress: http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
Contact the house of representatives: http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep?ZIP=55433
Contact the Supreme Court: http://www.supremecourt.gov/
Let's not wait for 6/16/12 to begin Marching for the Return of The Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 and To Close Oil Speculators Loopholes. Start today! Maybe add this agenda to the WDC Protest in March 2012?
Let's get Focused! Let's also get Hollywood on board: http://occupywallst.org/forum/heres-a-great-way-to-get-the-word-out-on-the-march/
then we March for Glass-Steagall and for closing Enron Loophole by throwing out 2000 CFTC Act...
Keep-on Keepin-on. More and more people are picking up on the fact that removing Glass-Stegall opened the door to this current economic mess.
Yes! Just a matter of time before USA learns the truth
The media blackout will fail.
please explain that one to me; guess I'm out of loop; what media blackout?
Non-coverage of the movements against greed corruption and white collar crime. The WallStreet economic meltdown and associated criminals.
Time to March for Glass-Steagall Act & old @CFTC Act!
Hey - my friend. Yes - Glass-Stegall. It was basic and complete. It was put in place after the great depression and kept us out of trouble for many a year. Then the greedy corrupt found leverage in government and we all got screwed - some ( millions ) way more than others.
Got it. thanks. Well when every city and town unites for Glass-Steagall-- we'll see what media has to say then!
Indeed.
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Here's some more info on how we got into this mess:
60 Minutes: Credit Default Swaps & how they brought down Economy. It's Time to March to Close Down Walls Street's Casinos! Party's over WS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox97-yJCZtY
@60Minutes Here's great story on how the Wall Street Casinos Opened! And Derivatives & Default Swaps--WStreet's Fav Bet! http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4546583n&tag=mncol;lst;1
Thanks for these great insights jeywell1:
[-] jeyowell1 2 points 2 weeks ago
Repeal the 879-page Dodd-Frank act of 2011. Reinstate the 37-page Glass-Stegall act of 1933. G-S worked for 60 years. Despite its length, D-F is still not complete with 243 rules yet to be defined by regulators. The regulators have asked the financial industry to fill in those blanks. Essentially the foxes have been asked to not only guard the henhouse but to build it too. Right now the banks derive only 30% of their income from lending and 70% from gambling, euphemistically referred to as “trading”. One by-product of this is that all the monetary benefit from productivity gains in the last decade accrued exclusively to the “financial sector”. The imperative of a functional financial system is simple: efficient allocation of capital to productive enterprise, because the financial system should support economic activity, not the other way around. Clearly, the titans of finance have failed miserably at this, yet they not only still have jobs, they continue to be richly rewarded for their incompetence.
To insure the future safety of the world's economies, U.S. banking does not so much need the new Dodd-Frank plan (internally separating client funds from host-corporation funds), nor even a renewed Glass-Steagall plan (more fully separating banking functions from brokerage functions) -- but, instead, needs a newly-designed Morgenthau Plan (partitioning these banking entities into fully-disarmed, allied-occupied small-businesses). [Occupy Wall Street]
In case anyone hasn't seen this yet:
Jan 2012 PBS/Bill Moyers & Company:
Author/journalist Gretchen Morgenson on how we got into our financial mess and who's to blame. And why the Dodd-Frank Act is not a fix: http://billmoyers.com/segment/gretchen-morgenson-on-industry-influence/
Reagan budget director David Stockman on "Crony Capitalism." The revolving door between Wall Street & D.C. http://billmoyers.com/episode/crony-capitalism/
Byron Dorgan on Making Banks Play by the Rules; Glass-Steagall: http://billmoyers.com/segment/byron-dorgan-on-making-banks-play-by-the-rules/
Former Citigroup CEO John Reed on how merger of Citicorp & Travelers Group brought down the Glass-Steagall Act: http://billmoyers.com/segment/john-reed-on-big-banks-power-and-influence/
That's something to consider...I don't know much about that Plan; but, before we do anything, I feel we 1st need major guidance; such as to let the Financial Reform Gurus take the lead...the ones who have been forever in the tenches fighting this war against financial deregulations for US; please see Step 4 here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
Actually, I wasn't being exactly "literal". The Morgenthau Plan, named after its originator (a Roosevelt cabinet member), was never fully implemented -- as the need to rebuild post War Germany as a buffer against the Soviets overruled American desire to break post Nazi Germany into small administrative units. I'm figuratively expressing the desire to break large banks into tiny local units.
I got it. thanks for explaining more
Activism works so lets get active.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/come-on-people-time-to-start-puting-up-or-shutting/
Start creating and sending out petitions.
yes. time for activism! let's get active!
"The Warning" Frontline Show: Former CFTC Chair Brooklsey Born Sounds the Alarm on Deregulations and Alan Greenspan is Furious about it.
This is insightful.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooksley_Born
1/27/12 PBS/Bill Moyers & Company: "Byron Dorgan on Making Banks Play by the Rules." http://billmoyers.com/segment/byron-dorgan-on-making-banks-play-by-the-rules/
Have you read the Nomi Prins book "It takes a Pillage" ? a really great insider view of the crisis (She's an x Goldman exec who got very disillusioned while working there). Great view from derivatives thru bailouts and how wall street used the bailouts and cheep fed loans as a big money grab.
I haven't read that book yet, but thanks for reminding me!
Yeah, she is one courageous woman
President Clinton says he "was wrong" now about Repealing G-S Act and Deregulating the CFTC. My question is: why don't you help us fix it now? After all, it's your fault--you signed the new ACT into law in 1999! Why? My guess is that's where he got most his of monies for his charities! He should be on TV now helping us, not throwing himself B-Day parties on VH1. He still has the influence, let's get him on Board, someone! Let him know his History/Legacy is being rewritten now...
And with all due respect President Clinton, your new book on how to get American back to work, should be called: Let's Reinstate The G-S Act and Close Oil Speculators Loopholes--Sorry America, I goofed, Let me make it up to those who elected me into office...
See "I was wrong" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3Z2Z2WMJk&feature=related
What an insult that Clinton has the audacity to write a book on how to get Americans back to work when he was responsible for them leaving in the first place.
On Sat Night (6/16/12)...Everybody 1, 2 --1, 2, 3: Congress listen to music & restore our old Glass-Steagall & CFTC Acts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmUN6ku1wHA Can do
I think he's intentions are honorable, but his handlers won't let him do the right thing--the multi-national corporations, as mvjobless so well said below here...
He did more than that, he signed NAFTA which began the great exodus of jobs from this country. He did alot of bad stuff but what can you expect from a guy who is in the pockets of the multi national corps.
Time Listen to Music Congress & Obama: What USA needs now is New Glass-Steagall & @CFTC...ain't that hard if you know how...Say it a little louder friends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmUN6ku1wHA
Besides Doobie Brothers song "Listen to the Music" - Beatles song "R" also help USA see why to jump on Glass-Steagall Bus:
We all want to change the world--You say you got a real solution President, DEMS, GOP--We'd all love to see the plan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn3JrUl4OGk&feature=youtu.be
It's going to be all right!
Vote AGAINST ALL incumbents !
Music to our ears: The Day #Congress #POTUS restores old Glass-Steagall & @CFTC Acts! Listen to Music #GOP #DEMS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmUN6ku1wHA
hey mvjobless, see this: Oil hit $100 a barrel today, why? Oil Speculators! Even Exxon's CEO says it should be $60-70 per barrel--Close Oil Loopholes Now! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I
Plus: What was true in June 2008, is still true Today (or close): Oil Speculation Hearings--First Hearings to Define it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXrGA_VKTcY
Here's another great recap (10 yrs later) on how we got into this "Financial Nightmare" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hh8EubXDV0&feature=related
Check out the metals markets too. Because of the silver speculators over the last 3-4 years, I lost my job. These bastards are into every market and they are wrecking the whole world economy.
I know, I know. People should be asking why there is so much foot dragging over at the CFTC. But I think we all know the answer to that question. Someone is making money and you can be sure it isn't Joe Blo on the corner. No one in government wants to take responsibility for anything, they keep hiding behind their sound bytes, their studies and commisions and investigations into why things are the way they are and that is the extent of them doing their jobs. Disgusting.
A site/organization devoted to Ending Oil Speculator Loopholes: www.stopoilspeculationnow.com
What to do now? http://www.stopoilspeculationnow.com/Pages/action.aspx
I just don't know. The only encouraging thing I've heard lately is about a couple of new books just coming out written by bankers about bankers, one is called, "Zombie Banks", another, "Greedy Bastards" and I forgot the third book. Anyway, they're talking about the futility of continuing to prop up the too big to fail banks and how they are destroying the global economy
I hear you...thanks for that...HNY! However, I feel we have "beat it all" to death enough--what's left to agree or disagree on? I thought this Mission to Reform Wall Street was to put that stuff behind us--and Unite! Right? Easy to lose your focus here....
So now, it's time to get something important Accomplish for all Americans; such as the Biggest: Reinstating the Glass-Steagall Act and Closing all Loopholes for Energy Traders.
So far, even without OWS, it looks like this will happen--The Power of Twitter--but, I hope they join in! I owe it to them, their up rising kick me in butt to do more! I've been at this for 4 years.
Please check this out, thoughts? http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
Final Victory Party: June, 16, 2012.
I tweeted your 2nd link. Hope it helps.
thanks buddy! It's coming together! I have a bunch of non-profits and PR industry pros following me on Twitter...in beg mode now! lol.
You continue to amaze me. Good fortune to you and the cause.
Thanks DKAtoday, needed to hear that. This is a lonely mission sometimes (as you know )...and hats off to your great work as well..Twitter too...one day they all will be worth while! As you so well say, you have to keep up the good fight for America!
Thank you for the compliment. Though I don't think I deserve it. At least not yet.
It is good to fight for the welfare of all mankind.
Well good to see you stopping by.
trying...but main goal now is forming a board-based coalition of Organizations; after all, we need at least 5 mil to make this work.
And we all will get this done, then we all win! Better that way!
Sounds very ambitious, Good luck with the major fund raising.
Btw, Uncle Karl, Cousin Rush, brother Glenn, Uncle O'Reilly, and all of Fox has it too! Please let me know what you hear them saying now--the Cat is out if the BAG WS! or should I say Monster out!
I hear ya, and I have good news! The Twiiter campaign for Marches for "The Return of the Glass-Steagall Act & to Close All Loopholes for Oil Speculators, is Taking Off! Being followed by 80 chapters, 4 Senators (including Al Franken), UNICEF, plus many more..total of 280 follows in 12 days! The Whole Worlds knows now! I followed 2300 TV Anchors/Stations, Newspapers, all of Congress, White House, etc. Follow me! Hold on to your seat! And stay tuned Partner! This is for ALL of us!
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howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Main Goal now is Education. After all, once get's out to masses, Spirit & Will of American People will get it Done Right..God Bless America! 31 minutes ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Besides going to need all of USA to Accomplish this Huge Task, it's better that way: Now it's Victory for All! We can & we will w/ Teamwork! 33 minutes ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller 1st, need to form Financial Reform Super Committee. 2nd, the Broad Base Coalition w/ other Non-Profits, Assn, etc--What Group wants to lead? 5 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Besides OWS, the best & maybe only way for these Marches to work, is if all Non-Profits & Assns "Join in" to help build a Stronger USA! Plea 7 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Again, being new, Shocked see how many Scams on Twitter--but not this One!--This one is for my Fellow Americans, Period! God Bless you all! 11 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @MariaCantwell After 4 yrs on this sub, I say Maria Cantwell for President--At least Best Benchmark for our Next, Why?youtube.com/watch?v=3J2R9H… 20 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Protests against everything under Sun, are fine?--but let's stop wasting Time & Unite USA for Big 1: G-S Act/End Oil Spec. Rest will fall in 1 Dec
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Brand new & from Spams, see picture now. So feel I need to say that I'm not in anyway promoting..but Hope of Making our Economy Whole Again! 1 Dec
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller With the Bailouts,"Americans were supporting a Casino...not the real Economy..." See 15 min in... youtube.com/watch?v=f-kExd… Time prevent from... 1 Dec
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @UNICEF Thanks for the follow! Old goal & hoping OWS will do this! It will help make America Strong Again! & United we can do This! Friend 1 Dec
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Before we March (to help everyone get on same page), here's the Glass-Steagall Act "Crash Course" youtube.com/watch?v=A7BUmX… 1 Dec
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @OccupyWallSt What is the OWS doing Today? Besides leaving my Fellow Americans Camping out for Them? Love hear Game Plan! I Know Troops woul 30 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller 10 Years after Glass-Steagall Act was Shattered: The Senator Reflects youtube.com/watch?v=Q_hbez… Once this gets out, not only MAD, but Goal Done! 30 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @UncleRUSH Fan. You're "Right on $" with Campaign Reform Goals! Please add this to it--the ultimate 1-2 Knockout Punch! The 2 biggest! Best 30 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Oil hit $100 a barrel today, why? Oil Speculators! Even Exxon's CEO says it should be $60-70 per barrel: youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_… Close Lholes! 30 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller To All Media: Need your help here! Please expose Cover-up! Why? For USA be Safe Footing Again, need Return to Financial Reg's made USA Great 30 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Wall Street has turned into a CASINO! How? youtube.com/watch?v=RLCvlt… The only way to fix this is Reinstating G-S Act--It's that easy folks! 29 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ @occupyfrederick Thanks for the retreat! Solidairty we can do anything! Btw, I grew up in Montgomery Co! Jim 29 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller It's Time to Remake American into Financial Giant it once was! Which changed after Wall Sreet Casinos Opened Nov 1999!occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-… 29 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @kirstiealley Hi besides being a Big Fan Fr Day 1--You are exactly what we need here--Bty, Brains & No take B-S Style--W/ Your help-Goal Now 29 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Once I told my Mom what I was up to, her 1st question: Jimmy, you're not going to get Murdered for this, are you? Why we also love Mom! Help 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller All of USA & The World, please join in this Battle to Regain Control of our Government(s) from the Financial Giants! United we can do Anythg 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller 99% of USA has no idea how we got into Financial Nightmare--When they do--They're going to be Outraged! Demand Congress to Close WS Casinos! 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller For me, not just OWS March, but March for all of USA! One we ALL need to be part of; or Huge Task DOA. It's WWhale First! Sign up Capt Ahab! 28 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller To GOP & Dems: It's Time to Forgive & Forget & put Country First! Writing on Wall: We Need G-S ACT Reinstated to Make the USA STRONG AGAIN! 27 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller In WDC they say the Financial Sector has 5 lobbyist for every Congressmen: FForward to 2:18 minutes in... youtube.com/watch?v=EaYWgX… Eye-Opening! 27 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @itsWillyFerrell Alert! Your Country needs Will NOW! That would do it for: occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoi… Can you see it Will? It's all there....Help! 26 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Feel if we join forces w/ Financial Reform Guru's, rest Falls into Place. After all Rein G-S Act is the WWhale-It's huge! Biggest 1st! Help! 26 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller What's brought the Economy Down the Worst? Land Mines called Derivatives. A Great 101. Fast forward to 22 minutes inyoutube.com/watch?v=f-kExd… 26 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller The Cat is out of the bag Wall Street! Here we come United to Take Back Capitol Hill: occupywallst.org/forum/its-time… We won't let up until it's DONE! 26 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Let's kick WS in Butt--won't be easy--they will fight us with everything they have--but we win--We the People! And USA will love us for it! 25 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Why are Gas Prices Going up again? Prof Greenberger speaks...not happy about Deregulations, especially The Loopholes:youtube.com/watch?v=Bmj_Fh… 25 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Sent OWS Prop to WH, Boehner, Cantor, Newt, Pelosi, Bachman--bit odd Wed Newt/Cantor mentioned to Rein G-S. They're listening friends--Yes 24 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ @MikeContreras7 It worked! Thanks for sharing your views here. That's what I feel needs to happen...Change is always hard. Take care Mike 24 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @ @MikeContreras7 Hey, link doesn't work, some was missing. Btw, the last twitt was not for you, but for what I know is to come with G-S Act! 24 Nov
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller For the Lobbyist who are against G-S, please put Country first. Why? Deregulations of WS is now conclusively linked to our down fall...Peace 24 Nov
Looks good and encouraging. Good work!
In "Lame Duck Session" in Senate on 12/15/00, The Enron Loophole was Born!--Energy Speculator's Dream! FF 6 Hrs 4 min.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXrGA_VKTcY
thanks. I will keep you posted! The ball is rolling...
Where do we go from here? You can find it through Love - Martin Luther King, Jr. MLK teaches insights fix Wall St too... http://vimeo.com/11154217
lol, how true. visit http://www.tohellwithfreetrade.com
They all knew what NAFTA was going to cause in the future. Why didn't anyone fight this every time a corporation left for greener pastures?
People are so stupid that they wait until they are all gone until everyone starts crying that there is no more jobs. The media should have been more responsible of letting the public be aware of the consequences of the NAFTA agreement repeatingly every time another big corporation left the country.
what about the columbian free trade deal, same thing, Obama just signed. This is what the elites are pushing in their quest to globalize the economy so they can finally dominate all developed world economies.
How can our government act so insane? Why are they deliberately destroying America?
thanks for these comments barb, just what we all needed to hear...right on!
Perfect! and with those two acts, look what happened! We should of listened to Ross Perot, he was the only Candidate who perdicted NAFTA would be a very bad thing for America!
Cheers to our OWS troops! Now Wall Street, and next on to DC on 6/16/12; however, we couldn't of made it to DC and fix the problem without showing Wall Street and the World we are feed up with corruption! You all are making it all happen, and only you!
Reinstating Glass Steagall is still no where near happening, 6 years after the recession caused by the Global Financial Crisis. Here is Senator Byron Dorgan predicting the Financial Crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg
What's going on Senate? We've got to find way to bring some understanding here today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0aELhsQoc&feature=related God Bless Marvin Gaye - Glass-Steagall OWS
Glass Steagall and oil prices are not exactly related issues (or at least the relationship is not a direct one, and it's sort of tenuous anyway). Oil prices will continue to rise because of rising demand and finite supply. Oil isn't like money, we can't just print more oil when it suits us (not to mention, we cannot keep burning fossil fuels and hope that CO2 will magically dissipate, chemistry doesn't work according to the laws of magic, assuming such laws exist, and of course they don't) :)
Must repeal 2000 CFTC Act--it created too big to fail too! Focus! It will close oil spec dream act--the enron loophole & regulate derivatives--all connected.
don't get caught up on lingo--focus! talked enough, this should of been done in NOV
Well, yes of course, we need to restore Glass Steagall, repeal the 2000 Act (as you suggest), and really that's only the tip of the iceberg. Some of the economists at the Dallas Fed are suggesting that we should break up some of our largest banks, which seems like a reasonable idea. I was simply pointing out that banking and oil are (from a technical perspective) two very different issues. Yes, malfeasance, corruption, collusion, etc., are likely real factors in our oil industry, but supply and demand is also a real and profound factor driving oil prices.
that's the idea, G-S act will breakup banks & restoring old CFTC Act will fix the rest. Cheers
Why not march in 2013? It would the 80th anniversary and we could vote out the Republicans and make sure the Democrats control the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. I know no one here likes the Democratic Party or Obama, but let's be honest: it's gonna be a hell of lot easier getting it reinstated through Democrats than Republicans. Perhaps OWS could form it's own group within the Democratic Party and get OWS backed members in the House of Representatives similar to the TEA Party. Sound good?
that's a good idea, but since we have the world's attention, NOW, it's time to knock this one out of the ball park!
Good point, but if it doesn't work out, you can always try my suggestion next year. Good luck to you, I really hope you can get the G-S Act reinstated and stop future meltdowns.
thanks! And once this gets out, there's no stopping the spirit of the American People to get this done right!
Just Twitted this: Senator Maria Cantwell for President! She will get it right for us! http://cantwell.senate.gov/issues/energy.cfm March for Return of G-S Act. http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
FINALLY! A REAL book by someone with zero ties to the establishment! Wildfire: The Legislation That Ignited the Great Recession is a real find! This book calls out all scumbag CEOs and politicians responsible for America's collapse.
I will check it out. thanks
Now we're talkin.
and don't do it for Obama or any other particular pol.
you are so right, since he's not going to reform wall street (had his chance with the bailout), now it's time for us to get it DONE! see you in DC on 6/16/12
6/16 ODC occupy DC
Today's tweets:
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @BarackObama @SpeakerBoehner Time tell World truth: We don't have Oil shortage problem, we have Oil Speculator Problem! #1 Close Oil Loophol 57 minutes ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller The Oil Lobbyist are busy giving money to Congress to approve Keystone. That should be illegal! bit.ly/zA4pdq 2 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller Congress it's time to tell World the truth: We don't have an Oil shortage problem, we have an Oil Speculator Problem! #1 Close Oil Loophole 2 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @OccupySydMedia OSM Mates! Time for Reform! Why? For ALL have even playing field once again...we have to Close Down World's WStreet Casinos! 11 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller The fact is since '00 we have been "robbed blind" by Energy Speculators--Congress fix THAT before you do anything else!youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_… 13 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller @60Minutes How true are Oil Crisis Stories? Some have alternative motivates? Now it's Keystone--something fishy going on! No Oil Supply Prob 13 hours ago
howtodoit1 J. E. Miller PLS don't buy WSteet/Media hype, don't need Keystone or Drill for more Oil, we have plenty--just need '74 Regulations!en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity… 14 hours ago
Check this out: In reference to Public Citizen's great work to enact oil position limits once again in Jan/11, we have a big road block, see below, The GOP is up to it's old tricks:
"Implementation of the Dodd-Frank Act and the CFTC's potential position limits continues to be debated in Washington. House Republicans proposed an 18-month delay of regulations intended to reduce risk in OTC markets, and the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala), wrote to the CFTC, warning it to avoid setting overly prescriptive limits that would force firms to reduce their commodity investments. On the other hand, in May, 15 Democratic senators, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) wrote to the CFTC asking it to unveil a position limit plan for all energy futures markets by May 23rd (Rampton, “CFTC Aims for Speculative Commodity Limits in Q1 2012,” Reuters, Jan. 18, 2011; Loder & Brush, “Energy Futures: The Risk in Speculation Limits,” Bloomberg Businessweek, Jan. 20, 2011; Doggett & Doering, “Senators Demand CFTC Tackle Oil Speculation,” Reuters, May 11, 2011)." By Lee Hansen.
It's time to close all loopholes for oli speculators!
Finally!! This is the issue that can galvinize a movement. Technically speaking, you need to repeal the repeal of Glass-Steagall but everyone gets the drift. Should Occupy decide to take on a secondary issue I feel that raising the minimum wage should be it. OK, I'll shut up about that-for now.
Thanks! Hear you. But first it's time to knock out the big 2--Wall Street's 2 biggest fears: the return of Glass-Steagall Act & old @CFTC. For all of us--my fellow Americans & citizens of the world:
Journey back to Square 1: Glass-Steagall & old @CFTC. 1st we repeal Gramm Acts, Dodd-Frank; then restore Glass-Steagall & old @CFTC Acts
http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
I agree. Do NOT start tweeking things because these people are tricky. Simply bring back Glass-Steagall. It wasn't perfect but it was a lot better that what there is now. Like you said- Don't reinvent the wheel.
yes!
YES - G-damn-it. Stop fucking reinventing the wheel. Look to make improvements that " ARE " improvements - not for a SELECT few - BUT FOR EVERYONE.
I'm sure most OWS supporters like the idea of raising the minimum wage (I know I do).
Reinstate Glass-Stegall. It was the removal that opened the door to insanity.
How did I miss this post? Finally, something I can get behind 100%! Amazing post Howtodoit.
THXS been in world of twitter, trying to get word out for past few months. PLS help, Let's get this done on 6/16/12, 79th anniv of signing of Glass-Steagall Act--that will show Congress we mean business today! UNITE World time! Find me @Howtodoit1
How about this idea: http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
It's time folks, the word is out. Let's show Congress what we are made of
American Airlines is cutting jobs. Why? 1 big reason can't afford fuel costs; explained by Exxon's CEO May/2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I Or in other words, the Oil Speculation Loopholes are still open! Let's Unite & close them all!
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Unite in common cause. Hate the things that are wrong in this world. Support each-other in making things right. This is where the healing will begin.
The Government of "The People" by "The People" for "The People"
We are the 99%. Take part in "The Peoples" Lobby.
Take action. See samples of how below.
195,747 signatures so far for Bernie Sanders petition as of 10:06am central time 01/26/2012
http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578
The petition to save abandoned houses has 16 signatures. We picked one up at around 11:07am 01/16/2012. Were just rolling right along.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/
Now 22,063 signatures as of 10:08am central time 01/26/2012.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/re-establish-and-maintain-separation-between-investment-banks-and-commercial-banks/ywCMKDfn
Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb
Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/
Must see:
PBS/Bill Moyers: Reagan budget director David Stockman on "crony capitalism"--the revolving door between DC & Wall Street--Talk about blowing the whistle on Dodd-Frank Act, White House, & Wall Street: and why we need a Glass-Steagall Act plus...to fix!
http://billmoyers.com/episode/crony-capitalism/
Will do. Good to see you making the rounds.
Kyle Bass: Bring Back Glass-Steagall, Eliminate Off-Balance Sheet Assets, And Cap Leverage At 10X
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/22155543/2010-0113-Bass
::::::::::::::AmeriCatalyst 2011: Session 1.2 Come Undone: Kyle Bass redux:::::::::::::::
(((Video))) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V3kpKzd-Yw
Kyle is back for the third year in a row, as the star of Session 2 on Day 1 at AmeriCatalyst 2011, which took place Nov. 6-8, 2011, in Austin, Texas. The interview of Kyle begins at around 2 minutes, 30 seconds into the video.
(((Gets really interesting about 18-19 minutes into the Video)))
::::::::::::::MUST SEE GRAPHIC - How The Too Big To Fail Banks Were Born::::::::::::::
http://dailybail.com/home/must-see-graphic-how-the-too-big-to-fail-banks-were-born.html
This is how the U.S. banking monopoly was created after more than two decades of unbridled bank mergers endorsed, and in some cases, encouraged them by the OCC, the FDIC, the FTC and the elimination of Glass-Steagall.
hope he can talk the rest of them into it!
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This is great post. Very helpful in directing our energy in a way that matters. It's empowering by raising our voices where they can direct change.
Thanks!
thank you Puzzlin! Let's get this done! Cheers
Take action. See samples of how below.
183,361 signatures so far for Bernie Sanders petition as of 10:15am central time 01/15/2012
http://sanders.enews.senate.gov/mail/util.cfm?mailaction=clickthru&gpiv=2100081904.557411.411&gen=1&mailing_linkid=34578
The petition to save abandoned houses has 15 signatures. We picked one up at around 9:50pm 01/13/2012. Were just rolling right along.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Savingpeople-savinghomes-payingdowntheNationaldeficit/
Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb
Sierra Club has some good things to take part in as well. Set-up and ready for you to take part in. http://sierraclub.org/
Here is a place where you can directly address change. Take part, it does not hurt and may very well heal/help. Forward the cause of reform and rebirth.
http://www.care2.com/go/z/e/Ag8nw/zL2Q/B18Bb
The fact is since 2000 we have been "robbed blind" by Energy Speculators--Congress fix THAT before you do anything else! Like approve Keystone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY420_U4U0I
Congress it's time to tell World the truth: We don't have Oil shortage problem, we have Oil Speculation Problem! #1 Close Oil Loophole!
An OWS List Of Goals For Changing The Course Of American History...
More Democracy - A constitutional amendment reversing the Supreme Court's bizarre rulings that under the First Amendment money is speech and corporations are people. Real campaign finance reform with public financing of federal elections. End the filibuster - the continued tyranny of 40, the number of senators who can block action—perhaps representing as little as 10 percent of the American public. End gerrymandering by politicians and turn over redistricting to citizen commitees.
A Fair Federal Tax Code - Introduce progressive taxation where the marginal tax rate should be raised to 50 percent on income between $500,000 and $5 million, 60 percent on income between $5 million and $15 million, and 70 percent on income over $15 million. There should be a 2 percent annual surtax on all fortunes over $7 million. The estate tax should be 55 percent and kicks in after $5 million. Capital gains should be taxed at 35 percent. End the home mortgage deduction on first homes over $1 million. End the home mortgage deduction on all second homes. Corporations should be taxed by a variable amount based on the percentage of their payroll going to US workers. A small business employing 100% US workers should be taxed somewhere between 15-20% while a company that has completely shifted its production overseas should be in the 50% range. Eliminate corporate loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and deductions, subsidies, end offshore tax haven abuse. Expatriation of capital should be subject to a maximum tax-rate penalty with violation considered a felony act.
Better Schools - Copy Finland. Finland draws its teachers from the top 10 percent of college graduates, and teaching regularly beats out finance, law or medicine as a top career choice among high performers. Finland's teachers study education at government expense and receive strong professional support throughout their careers. Finland's "whatever it takes" attitude towards teaching ensures that no child is left behind. Properly compensate teachers. End tenure and LIFO for k-12 teachers nationwide.
More Jobs - A ten-year federal program that creates over 30 million jobs rebuilding America that includes infrastructure banks run by engineers, not politicians and a massive clean energy initiative that links some of those new jobs to workers in fossil fuel industries who otherwise would be displaced. Pay for it by taxing all Wall St. financial transactions at 1% raises $400 billion a year, end the wars and reduce military spending.
Social Fairness - The fast-growing occupations in America are lower-paying service jobs, like home health care and food service, in which it’s all but impossible to make a living. To lift wages requires generous tax credits for low earners, a higher minimum wage, and guaranteed health care so that wages are not consumed by medical costs. Job training efforts must also focus on the service sector, helping to build so-called career ladders from home health aid to licensed vocational nurse.
End The Housing Crisis - A national anti-foreclosure plan that is up to the scale of the problem would include: Principal write-downs of underwater loans Expanded refinancings for borrowers in high-rate loans Forbearance for unemployed homeowners.
Reduce Financial Risk To Society - Break up the biggest banks. Reenact Glass-Steagall. Abolish credit default swaps. Derivatives must be traded on transparent exchanges. Ban "flash" trading.
Protect The Environment - STRICTLY enforce the Clean Air Act.
This just came to me. Since this is the election year write a letter to your congressman, senator, anyone who is elected. Tell them you can't vote for him or her in the next election. Make sure they know your name, address, email, telephone number and such. Tell them that the reason that you can't vote for them is because you don't know if they support the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall or not. Tell them you are a OWS supporter and you intend to be at the rally in Washington on June 16th to reinstate that bill. Then ask them to come to the Mall that day to announce their support for reinstatement. Say thank you, and sign your name to the letter. Then send a copy of that letter to your local newspaper or T.V. station. Won't cost you anything but the cost of mailing the letter.
Howtodoit: Are you still on this forum? June 16th 2012...a good date. Re-instate Glass-Steagall...maybe not the whole answer but somthing concrete to sink our teeth into. 1 million #OWS on the Mall in Washington on that day! Not even Faux Noose could ignore that! Everyone reading this...draft a proposal to submit to your local OWS GA. Start it now...June is warm weather season and this can be our summer campaign.
Yes! Let's do it. Big goal now is to find a Leader. You can find me here: @howtodoit1 It's all there. Every news feed in the World has it. Cheers
Here's the Proposal: http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
Actually, and unfortunately, Glass-Steagall (and related prohibitions) were not working well, the final twenty years of life. The 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall was only "ceremonial". The walls between banking and brokeraging (along with other prohibitions specific to banking, such as legal max's on interest rates on various instruments, prohibitions on interstate collecting of funds, etc) began breaking down, twenty years earlier -- and, had become a complete fact-of-life, by the early- to mid-90s. The pressure to release banks from the constraints came from the stunningly high open-market interest rates (that brokerages were offering via mutual funds), the high number of near bank failures (requiring government-assisted out-of-state takeover), the invention of the ATM, etc. So, designing a "new Glass-Steagall" (and related contols) that will, both, work and stand up in a Court that just invented the "Citizens United" doctrine is going to be tricky. A new decision will have to take the two (i.e. bank freedom and bank personhood) "down," together, I would think.
Well put. I agree and We need these guys to fix it (from Proposal):
Step 4: ALLIANCES/COMMITTEES
1-To Draft the Legislation to Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 & the CFTC Act of 1974, now we should reach out to the Experts who know how to get this written up & done right; such as:
--Senator Byron Dorgan
--Former Chair of CFTC Brooksley Born
--Former Director of CFTC Professor Michael Greenberger
--Senator Maria Cantwell
--Ralph Nader
--Public Citizen
--Americans for Financial Reform
--Elizabeth Warren, Special Advisor for The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
How did I come to this conclusion? After almost 4 years of researching this subject, which seems to me to be dominated by Corporate Greed verses the Best interest of Americans, this distinguished group are the ones that have been in the trenches fighting this War against Financial Deregulations for Us! And most since the G-S Act & CFTC Act of 1974 were removed in 1999/2000. So that's my A-Team working in Harmony for Financial Reform, what I would call "The Super Committee for Financial Reform." And I strongly feel that we should Invite "all" of the them to table, why? Because when we accomplished this "Huge Task"--they all deserve to be a Big Part of it; after all, they are the most Qualified--I feel we should Honor their work & many others!
Let's show Congress how to do it right!
See you in June!
Cheers! That's what I haven't heard in a while! Lunch on me!
this post should be bumped every time someone posts about a theory or a goal or a vision or a belief
"Do or do not... there is no try"
thanks bensdad! one more coming now here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
Hope you like.
Keep spreading the Word!
Will do! Happy Holidays!
Check this out could be real good fun.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/irs-could-resellrent-foreclosed-properties/
For those of you just checking in.
Don't forget to petition the Justice Department to start prosecuting the economic criminals. There has to be accountability.
This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
See also people from all walks of life, from all over the political map "not" supporting a party or leader or group of leaders but "supporting an Ideal".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Bgqt1YYko
This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
The first order of business is to take big money out of federal politics.
Pass the Fair Elections Now Act (S. 750 and H.R. 1404). A law where political candidates for federal office would raise a large number of small contributions from their communities in order to qualify for Fair Elections funding. Contributions are limited to $100.00. Strictly voluntary by the candidate to avoid legal issues.
Require new FCC regulations granting 100% FREE TV air time to all federal candidates who obtain sufficient petition signatures and/or votes to get on the ballot and participate in the primaries and/or electoral process.
End Political Corruption - End the "revolving door" of politicians and their staffs from ever becoming becoming lobbyists and prohibit all federal public employees, officers, officials from ever being employed by any corporation, individual or business that they specifically regulated while in office.
Clean Up Wall St. - Break up the biggest banks. Reenact Glass-Steagall. Abolish credit default swaps. Derivatives must be traded on transparent exchanges. Ban "flash" trading. Tax all Wall St. financial transactions at 1%. Damp down speculation and raise $400 billion a year.
Solve The Housing Crisis - Congress can and should modify the bankruptcy laws to allow primary residence mortgages to be eligible for restructuring by making banks lower the principal balance on all underwater mortgages to current market value and refinancing these loans to current market interest rates.
Create A Fair Federal Tax Code - The marginal tax rate ought to be raised to 50 percent on income between $500,000 and $5 million, 60 percent on income between $5 million and $15 million, and 70 percent on income over $15 million. There should be a 2 percent annual surtax on all fortunes over $7 million. The estate tax should be 55 percent and kicks in after $5 million. Capital gains should be taxed at 35 percent. End the home mortgage deduction on first homes over $1 million. End the home mortgage deduction on all second homes. Corporations should be taxed by a variable amount based on the percentage of their payroll going to US workers. A small business employing 100% US workers should be taxed somewhere between 15-20% while a company that has completely shifted its production overseas should be in the 50% range. Eliminate corporate loopholes, unfair tax breaks, exemptions and deductions, subsidies, end offshore tax haven abuse. Expatriation of capital should be subject to a maximum tax-rate penalty with violation considered a felony act.
Make Health Care Affordable And Accessible To All - Medicare For All. Allow Medicare to purchase drugs directly. Give the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MEDPAC) more authority to drive down medical costs. End fee-for-service in medical care.
End The Wars - Reduce the military budget by half ($330 billion).
End The Police State - Repeal the Patriot Act
Clean The Air - EPA to STRICTLY enforce the Clean Air Act.
Create Jobs Now - A ten-year federal program that involves a New Works Progress Administration (WPA) and Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) to create millions of jobs rebuilding America that includes infrastructure banks run by engineers, not politicians to extricate ourselves from the Great Recession now and increase productivity later.
Create Jobs Later - To create long term quality jobs, the nation needs a massive Manhattan-style project involving government, business and unions with the goal of leading the world in alternative energy innovation and production.
Invest In Education - Begin with the federal government paying tuition and fees for all students, part and full time, who are enrolled in two-year public institutions in the United States.
I'm ready for a good fight.
That's what I like to hear! Right on! Time to Kick Wall Street in the Butt! After all, they have make enough $$$
When they remove the glass steagall act,
~It was Fraud Approved!~
you mean add not remove?...after all: the G-S Act was removed in 1999. Now it's time to REINSTATE IT, which is basically a quick history lesson on why: Where it all began with Senator Phil Gramm who helped create "legal" gambling casinos for our banks:
CNN's The 10 Most Responsible for Economy Collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKQOxr2wBZQ&feature=related
Roll Call: For the ones on the fence please watch the first :30 of this:
Senate Floor: 2:04 pm 11/4/99
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvnO_SH-4WU&feature=related
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veAOoQEy0PI&feature=related
"Byron's Crystal Ball" (or how he likes to put it: "Common Sense.") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nZbo8SKbg&NR=1
"Too Big To Fail" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEEvVd2CPlM&NR=1
I know where you are going with this, but come on...isn't it ultimtely everyone's goal to not let Congress be governed by 1% anymore (Wall Street). For me it's a no-brainer. The day I heard the OWS was finally BORN, I was moved to sharing what has been my passion after watching the 2008 Senate Oil Speculation hearing on The Hill. Too bad it was only on C-SPAN (our friends). It goes like this:
Former Director of U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Professor Michael Greenberger, speaks to Congress in 2008 on the high price of oil--and he's not happy about Energy Deregulations, especially The Loopholes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY&feature=related
Glass-Steagall is completely irrelevant in the 21st century.
I hear you, I'm futurist as well...here's my main man for that: Ray Kurzwell: http://bigthink.com/ideas/31635?page=all
But, if you don't mind, I have to disagree on this point; mankind can't keep trying to change rules that work; such as when Senators Glass & Steagall and FDR got The G-S Act signed into law in 1933; Once they realized that when Banks, Insurance Companies, and Investment Companies Merge, there's a higher probablity of not only making bad investments, but also of creating investment vehicles that are so complex (with zero regulations--as we have now since 1999) that you really can't blame the government oversight agencies for this: after all, a big part of repealing the Glass-Steagall Cat in 1999 was Deregulating what they once did daily.
So let's get this done, it's way over do, we've been sold to the cleaners...once again!
Stop being a defeatist. You sound like an intelligent person.
Dec. 5-9 Occupy Congress just announced on the Ed show by Mary Kay Henry, of the SEIU, who was arrested yesterday in New York.
thanks for the heads up
I just Twitted this (whatever that means, but seems to work?)
"From my OWS Forum, I hear there's a vote tonight & this March for G-S Act is part of it! Thank OWS! For me, you are the Heart & Soul of USA!
Yes Yes Yes. Reinstate Glass-Steagall NOW!!!
Yes! A great start for the OWS! I feel this needs to be the OWS's first BIG Victory (as name implies)--And with all due respect, I feel you owe it to the WS Protestors to Get Something Done That They Can Really Be Proud Of--And There is Nothing Bigger on WS Than Bringing Back The G-S Act and Closing These Loopholes!
Absolutely, this really is at the core of how Wall Street took us to the brink.
Btw, Ashley Judd is on board, Twitter quote, "I'm in"
Thank you howtodoit. I'm thinking we're about the same age. This is good and I wish I could be there tonight to vote. I wiggle my fingers in your general direction.
The march on DC is a must and I like the symbolism of 6/16 (although 6/6 would be pretty good too... maybe an occupation from 6/6 through 6/16?).
I would add, we also need to get to work to push an amendment negating the horrid Citizen's United decision.
I didn't know there was a vote tonight, can you feel me in with the details?
working on a facebook page now...
Can someone create a facebook page or something more substantial than this post to start organizing?
thanks for asking, working on it now, I'll post it here soon, thanks
The 6/16/12 march is a great idea!
thanks mtmama, and again, besides the WDC March, I feel the best way--and maybe only way--for this to work is to also have Marches held in every City on 6/16/12, and keep it up until Congress listens--and if they don't, you what to do with your vote, next...But why wait for 6/16/12? Let's start today!
And I should point-out here that I'm an Independent, nothing said or posted here was swayed by any affiliations, except for the school of common sense.
I just saw an opportunity here with this OWS Forum to hopefully help more people understand how and why we got into this financial mess, and one possible way to fix it. That's all. God Bless America!
Have you checked in with the get money out people yet? Dylan Ratigan is behind this one. United Republic they call themselves.
http://unitedrepublic.org/
thanks for that.
I sent in a question for tonights presidential debate.
Submit a debate question at: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57319621-503544/submit-your-questions-for-the-cbs-news-national-journal-foreign-policy-debate/?tag=contentMain;contentBody
My question was about reinstating Glass Steagall, and who on the stage would support it. They'll never use it but hey, its worth a shot.
(((Live-Stream coverage of the debate))) http://www.cbsnews.com/2718-250_162-1335.html
Debate starts at 8:00 pm
Here's mine (like MD,s) for the GOP Debate tonight:
My question for the GOP Candidates:
If Elected President of the United States, would you fight to Reinstate the Glass Steagall Act of 1933? And if not, why not? Considering we all know now that the repeal of the G-S Act created the economic meltdown! (like in 1929)
Nice heads up! Great question. Let's all ask the same question: If elected President of the U.S., would you fight to Reinstate the Glass Steagall Act of 1933? And if not, why not? Considering we all know now that the repeal of the G-S Act created the economic meltdown! thanks for this MonetizingDiscontent... doing it now...
I feel bringing back the Glass-Steagall Act and closing all Loopholes for Oil Speculators needs to be the OWS's first BIG Victory (as name implies)--And with all due respect, I feel you owe it to the WS Protestors to get something Done that they can really be Proud Of--And there is Nothing Bigger on WS Than Bringing Back The G-S Act and Closing These Loopholes!
-The Only Way to Save the Economy: Break Up the Giant, Insolvent Banks-
:::::::::::::::::::::::Banks Receiving Government Aid CUT Loans:::::::::::::::::::::::
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/2010-04-21-tarp-banks_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
Banks that received federal assistance during the financial crisis reduced lending more aggressively and gave bigger pay raises to employees than institutions that didn’t get aid, a USA TODAY/American University review found.
::::::::::::::::If We Break Up the Giants, Smaller Banks Will Thrive::::::::::::::::
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::And Loan More to Main Street:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
The Only Way to Save the Economy: Break Up the Giant, Insolvent Banks
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/the-only-way-to-save-the-economy-break-up-the-giant-insolvent-banks.html
Yes we will! I posted this thread there! Thanks. And here's an interesting link I just found that some H.S. Freshman's produced this year (2011) to help explain the Meltdown: Brooksley Born -- "The Woman Who Knew" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be3C_O-Btko
I'm sure Brooksley loves this vid! And she deserves it and more!
Excellent video, thankyou for that link, Howtodoit. Stuffed Full of Information, and well produced. Bookmarked it.
It's so cool the kids produce this; maybe one day we will let them know about this post. What I've been doing is once I post a link, I write down the view count. If their's takes off, we have to let them know for sure. For example, so far on this forum, Gramm's Ten Most leads with 401 views since Oct 27, Matt from the Stones is catching up at 248 views! ha! Thanks MonetizingDiscontent! Let's all work in Harmony and show the world we CAN get this done once and for all!!! It's Time for a Congressional Amendment; so they can't do this again to future Generations!
As we move ahead, we have to look back to what got us here...So our first goal is Eduction! Everyone must be on the same page! Then, we March and get it right, again! This is like a bad movie, which one day will be made into a great Movie.
But, it already has. For a breather, let's get some more popcorn and watch Jimmy Stewart's great performance in Frank Capra's Classic: "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j41Oke9ASEw
Look for part 2, 3, 4 etc here....
Here's part of the Great Climax...and when this movie came out, all the Senators screened it in DC with the stars, but weren't very happy about it...awesome point of view, that's rings so true today!
Part 7 A Must see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKwPCbMz5uU&feature=related
For those who are new to this Forum, get's some popcorn and watch this:
Who Repealed the Glass-Steagall Act? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q
For those who are new to this Forum..please see above youtube link for a quick 101 course...
So far, to let everyone know what we are up to, I have reached out to by email to almost everyone that either wrote a story on the Forum, or was Featured on a youtube link; such as William Kaufman, Public Citizen, James Galbrath (nice guy), Marcus Mabry, Matt Taibbi, Senator Byron Dorgan, Senator Maria Cantwell, Sam Stein, Eric Lipton, and my main man for reform, Professor Michael Greenberger.
Last week, I also Twitted this to the following:
Million People March to WDC to Reinstate Glass-Steagall Act. When? 6/16/12, 79th Anniv of G-S Act.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
Ralph Nader, OWS, OWS Times, The Other 99, Matt Taibbi, Senator Maria Cantwell, Senator Ted Kaufman, Senator Sanders, Dylan Ratigan Show, Ed Show, Keith Oblermann Show, Rachel Maddow Show, Jon Stewart Show, Finance Reform Org, RB Reich, People's Congress, POPVOX.com
Cheers
Let's get this Done first, than we will have the Power to move on to....And as far as the Date 6/16/12 is concerned, it started TODAY! Hopefully, we will have in the bag by then...
Here's my original forum: http://occupywallst.org/forum/lets-get-focused-and-bring-back-glass-steagall-act/
Please spread the word!
Go OWS Troops!
“I want to sound a warning call today about this legislation, I think this legislation is just fundamentally terrible.”
The Day the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 Came-Up for a Vote: Senator Byron Dorgan Takes the Senate Floor Against It and Try's to Save the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933! Before We March, Let's all get on the Same Page... http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-day-the-gramm-leach-bliley-act-of-1999-came-up/
I think there should also be some retribution for the theft of wealth since its repeal as well...
I agree, but unfortunately now, Thanks to Gramm and the others, a lot of these trading scams are legal. So we need to make sure that doesn't happened again, like again in 66 years from now...
Perhaps the finality of it elevates it to constitutional amendment then?
I think that should be the goal! thanks invient
How about paying for better Wall Street Policing by charging a transaction fee? Even if it is a small fraction of a cent per share it could go a long way toward slowing down the computer trades and volatility in the market.
that's a good question. I think we need to ask Professor Michael Greenberger and Public Citizen to answer that one. Please write it down.
And please let me know if and when you decide to form a Refrom Commitee/Alliance with them. thanks
Here's some Pics for our Marches, go to Google Images and type this in excatly: glass-steagall act of 1933
Check out the bottom right pic (bottom of page): WE KILLED GLASS-STEAGALL! with all of the ones who did in the background! priceless--lol. (note, if the search doesn't work, then you can find the pic here at end of video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q&feature=related )
Also, you can see pics of Glass and Steagall here. Maybe at the WDC March we have two large pics: Glass on one side of the Stage and Steagall hanging on the other....
And please don't forget we need t-shirts, buttons, hats. etc, and a flier that clearly spells out our mission, so everyone can easily and quickly get on the same page; for example:
1--Reinstate the G-S Act
2- Reinstate our old 1999 CFTC Act too
Both with a brief description (in plain english) why each of them is central to our cause. When we get this DONE, for example, Bush taxes, forget about it, campaign reform, forget about it, and so on and so on....
Please join us for Balance Transfer Day December 11 2011 http://www.facebook.com/BalanceTransferDay
sure bring it back. oh Wait, whats to stop em from repealing it 66 years from now. Dumb ass sheeple This problem is older than the USA itsself. Here is a bitch slap for you, NOW WAKE UP!
Bring Back Glass-Steagall--PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD! Love you all! Go get 'em! Hit them where it hurts the MOST! And where it HELPS Americans the MOST!
in case anyone on the West Coast miissed this (an early EST post today), I feel this is our next step..thoughts? see above, look up.
Vote out the people who repealed Glass-Steagall. Many are still in the congress. In fact people who voted to repeal Glass-Steagall hold a majority on the special debt super committee.
Of the twelve members named to the "debt super committee" nine voted in 1999 for S-900, The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Reform Act, that led directly to the 2008 financial collapse of America. These are the people in Congress TODAY who actually empowered the economic crash of 2008.
S-900, The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, created "too big to fail" banks by its repeal of Glass-Steagall. S-900 also expanded use, by those banks, of what are now known as "toxic" derivatives. The instruments that the banks used to steal trillions of dollars in accumulated home equity of millions of honest Americans. And S-900 reorganized the Community Reinvestment Bank allowing banks to offer more risky mortgages to people who could not afford them.
Toxic Pat Toomey - PA (R)
Sen. Kyl, Jon [R-AZ]
Rep. Camp, Dave [R-MI-4]
Rep. Upton, Fred [R-MI-6]
Sen. Murray, Patty [D-WA]
Sen. Baucus, Max [D-MT]
Sen. Kerry, John F. [D-MA]
Rep. Clyburn, James E. [D-SC-6]
Rep. Becerra, Xavier [D-CA-31]
My freshman U.S. senator "Toxic" Pat Toomey, was in the House in 1999 and stood on the floor to defend both the repeal and the derivatives in S-900 the Financial Services Modernization Act that repealed Glass-Steagall. Here is his floor speech:
"The repeal of Glass-Steagall is necessary so that consumers can get the products and services they desire and American financial firms can compete in the global marketplace.
Madam Speaker, I would like to highlight just one small part of this sweeping legislation. I am particularly pleased that this bill includes an important provision regarding certain derivative transactions, especially credit and equity swaps. These somewhat obscure products are actually very important tools used by businesses, including financial service firms, to manage a variety of risks that they face. This bill reaffirms that swap contracts are legitimate bank products that can be executed and booked in banks and are adequately regulated by and will continue to be regulated by banking supervisors."
This, to me, is proof of the corruption in Congress. What are the odds that nine of the twelve members of the super committee in 2011 would have voted back in 1999 FOR the law that caused the financial collapse in 2008? Thousands have gone through congress since 1999. But the benefactors of S-900 still keep their small cadre of puppets in control of the financial power and super powers in Congress.
SEE: The Congress that Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html
What are Derivatives? Professor Michael Greenberger explains in 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-kExdTgNZA&feature=channel
If you don't have the time to watch to whole C-SPAN show, fast forward to 22 minutes in, right before where a caller from NY asks a great question. The Professor, again, explains it in plain english...also love he's "Wild West" analogy 34 minutes into the interview.
Check out interview above! We are living again in the Wild West! I need to buy a horse!
right on aahpat! you should be our Speaker when we give Congress the paperwork to sign! cheers!
Thanks and no thanks.
The link to the Congress that Crashed America web page I posted is temporarily down. It will be back up by 11AM.
roger that
The link is now active again. Please distribute it freely. People need to know who the politicians are who actually caused the financial collapse of 2008 with their vote in 1999.
The Congress that Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html
This is exactly the type of information that needs to be collected and published. A report card so to speak for those in office. Very useful if we want to start recall proceedings or if we just want to make contact to voice our disgust/dissent. Create sign and send petitions. The more inputs we have the better. http://occupywallst.org/forum/create-sign-and-send-petitions/
A site to submit issues have them collected, collated and submitted. www.lobbydemocracy.com
Contact the White house: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
Contact the senate: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Contact Congress: http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
Contact the house of representatives: http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep?ZIP=55433
Contact the Supreme Court: http://www.supremecourt.gov/
OUR BANNER/OUR CAUSE
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. July 4, 1776.
love it
Please feel free to disseminate the link freely and widely. Americans need to know who the members of Congress are, who are still in Congress, that empowered the Wall Street banksters to screw America.
If the politicians don't hear it from us they won't hear it.
Yes, this will be our Master List of who not vote for, sending out now! thanks aahpat
The Congress that Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html
Since the list was created for the 2010 election some names may no longer be in office. But today I updated the senate references because there were more than a dozen people who voted for S-900 while in the House but who left the House and are now in the Senate. Promoted for fucking up.
Everyone try to keep this thread bumped. It's the only one that is really important and will produce results.
Everyone try to keep this thread bumped. It's the only one that is really important and will produce results.
Let's not wait for 6/16/12, let's start Marching now for the G-S Act. What's the lastest with NY OWS number2? Are they on board yet?
I'm not sure what is going on. I think we are still trying to decide if we are really nonpartisan or not.
please keep me in the loop. I feel we should March now for G-S Act, why wait? Let's get it done now, then maybe we don''t need a DC March in June. Take care.
I will try but I'm kind of out of the loop myself. I'm a libertarian and some people here appear to want to exclude libertarians. So I hope that we can all come together on some common ground like reinstating glass-steagall.
then, maybe we should start our own non-profit movement, I have 10 years experience in the non-profit org. world, thoughts on a name? Maybe, "People for Reinstating the G-S Act"--to begin with?
sure but hopefully OWS people will realize that reinstating GS is nonpartisan and something that a large majority or 99% could agree upon and get organized for this.
Good luck with that and please stay in touch, and check out our new POST for the cause...Education first! How we got here..take care
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
Thanks number2. Now I'm elated. I'm no pro on this sub, but I just happened to turn on C-SPAN in June of 2008 and hear Professor Greenberger lay into Congress and say what some would say is a complicated problem, into something really simple...And to be clear to all, I don't work for him either, but I just feel he has to be our first call to learn how to get it right.
For example, writing this, I hear The Enron Loophole is closed, but some say it's not: however, oil speculators are still driving the price of oil up again? So I feel we need the professor to tell us how to proceed from here. I believe He was ousted when Gramm's wife who took over CFTC in 1999 and created all these oil loopholes, which is still now allowing speculators to gamble with oil commodities--Professor Greenberger's POV is that oil futures must be regulated like before 1999. Today, one of his jobs is telling Congress about the short falls of the Dodd-Frank Act. See here:
http://www.michaelgreenberger.com/doddfrank.html
please someone from the OWS call him before we March. He has the insights we need to get it right, once again!
if OWS doesn't want to be discredited as a bunch of pot-smoking, hippie communists then it needs to be reported that OWS has an agenda and it is to reinstate glass -steagall.
Yes!
i don't know those people but ronpaul voted against repealing glass steagall and that's all i really need to know. not all but i trust him.
either way, WE don't elect anyone who voted for the Repeal of G-S Act in 1999, they had their chance to help us.. Now we are living with their mess!
the percentage of bad politicians is so high we should just get rid of them all. there may be some collateral damage to a handful of good guys but not much.
Great point, back to square one, as the days our founding Forefathers drafted the Constitution. Today, is not that far of a stretch, you guys are re-writing history everyday! Can't wait till a year from now, watch-out America! Our 1# mission is to help EVERY ONE of YOU!
me too. we have to find our own candidate, maybe the Professor? or Senator Byron Dorgan or Senator Maria Cantwell? Senator Ted Kaufamn would be great too! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-ted-kaufman/the-emperor-has-no-clothe_b_1072854.html
Either way, we should make sure that the People mentioned above--the ones that have been fighting to bring back the Glass-Steagall since 1999--ARE A BIG PART OF OUR MOVEMENT; at least they should be guest speakers...
thanks for all that info! This should be OWS only agenda.
thanks, that comment just make it all worth while for me number 2! number 1 for me
Yes! But how many Americans know what G-S is? Thets start with what is do-able !
There are a huge number of great, well thought out, COMPLICATED ideas that will require a huge amount of "selling" and explanation" and will garner GREAT OPPOSITION.
We need to be realistic & pick an issue that is simple - that is popular -
that 83% of Americans already agree on -
that 56% of TP already agree on -
that will bring together the people in OWS with the people outside of OWS.
Everybody wins!
Our only goal should be to pass a constitutional amendment to counter Supreme Court decisions Citizens United (2010) & Buckley v. Valeo (1976), that enable unlimited amounts of anonymous money to flood into our political system.
“Corporations and organizations are not a persons & have no personhood rights”
and
“money is not free speech”.
We don’t have to explain or persuade people to accept our position – we have to persuade them to ACT based on their own position. Pursuing this goal will prove to the world that we, at OWS, are a serious realistic Movement, with serious realistic goals. Achieving this goal will make virtually every other goal – jobs, taxes, infrastructure, Medicare – much easier to achieve –
by disarming our greatest enemy – GREED.
THE SUCCESS STORY OF THE AMENDING PROCESS The Prohibition movement started as a disjointed effort by conservative teetotalers who thought the consumption of alcohol was immoral. They ransacked saloons and garnered press coverage here and there for a few years. Then they began to gain support from the liberals because many considered alcohol partially responsible for spousal and child abuse, among other social ills. This odd alliance, after many years of failing to influence change consistently across jurisdictions, decided to concentrate on one issue nationally—a constitutional amendment. They pressured all politicians on every level to sign a pledge to support the amendment. Any who did not, they defeated easily at the ballot box since they controlled a huge number of liberal, and conservative and independent swing votes in every election. By being a single-issue constituency attacking from all sides of the political spectrum, they very quickly amassed enough votes (2/3) to pass the amendment in Congress. And, within just 17 months, they were successful in getting ¾ of the state legislatures to ratify the constitutional amendment into law. (Others were ratified even faster: Eight —took less than a year. The 26th, granting 18-year-olds the right to vote, took just three months and eight days.)
If they could tie the left and right into a success -
WHY CAN'T WE??????????
I feel that we should stay with this simple text to overturn CU:
”corporations are not people” and “money is not free speech”
for four simple reasons and one – not so simple:
1
83% of Americans have already opposed CU in the ABC/Washington post poll and the above
IS THEIR POSITION ALREADY.
2
We don’t have to work to convince people on the validity of our position.
3
Simple is almost always better.
4
This simple Amendment is REQUIRED to overturn CU.
And all other electoral reform can be passed through the normal legislative process.
5
OWS and these pages are chock full of ( mostly ) excellent ideas to improve our country.
All of them have strong advocates – and some have strong opposition.
None of them has been “pre-approved” by 83% of Americans !
Pursuing this goal – without additional specifics is exactly what Americans want.
What do we want? Look at that almost endless list of demands – goals - aims.
Tax the rich. End the Fed. Jobs for all, Medicare for all. So easy to state! Can you imagine how hard it would be to formulate a “sales pitch” for any of these to convince your Republican friends to vote for any of them?
83% of Americans have ALREADY “voted” against CU. And 76% of the Rs did too.
All we have to do ask Americans is to pressure their representatives – by letters - emails – petitions.
Wanna take your family on vacation?
Convince the 7 year old and the 10 year old to go to Mt Rushmore.
Then try to convince them to go to Disneyland.
Prioritizing this goal will introduce us to the world – not as a bunch of hippie radical anarchist socialist commie rabblerousers – but as a responsible, mature movement that is fighting for what America wants.
I feel that using the tactics of the NRA, the AARP an the TP – who all represent a minority – who have successfully used their voting power to achieve their minority goals - plus the Prohibition Amendment tactics – bringing all sides together - is a straight path for us to success that cannot fail to enable us to create and complete one MAJORITY task.
roger
I just twiited this, and the OWS stopped following me, why? great question...
Why is Oil back-up to $96 Barrel? The Foxes still Guard the Hen House- Time to March to Stop Oil Speculators! Details: http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=3448
The OWS must think I work for Public Citizen http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=183 ? (from all of my posts from them) Well, the truth is I was born in WDC in 1950's and grew-up believing in PC, that's it---just trying to jump start how to reform WS, Why? PC knows how to do it. So for me it makes sense that they United and get this WS Reforms done right; After all, the OWS has the troops to get it done right, and the PC has the knowledge and insight to get it done right...For me it's a perfect marriage, that's all, you can ask my Mom
Or maybe, I'm way off base, it's not my 30 year support for the great work Public Citizen does, but instead the OWS is not for Protesting Against Oil Speculators who are robbing us all at the Pump? Hope that's just an theory...the George Soros conspiracy connection and all...but, who is the OWS? I thought it was US; otherwise, I wouldn't of missed two weeks of work to throw my hat into the ring...any answers here OWS??? Who are you? With all due respect..come on now...lay it out now! Time is not on your side and you know it now...I'm not a troll, just found out what that meant last weekend..Sincerely Hownottodoit
I just want everyone to come together on one page and get this (or anthing done now) so we all sleep better knowing this wasn't all for nothing...
The problems started with Reagan, re: the S & L crisis of the 1980's. What Phil and Wendy Graham was the icing on the cake. Every bit of deregulation that began in the early 80"s and even before that needs to be undone.
Yes! Yes! And please correct me if I am wrong here, but I once read Carter was the first to repeal a liittle part of G-S Act & CFTC, whch inched the door open for Reagan. Not positive, but pretty sure. Thanks for posting mvjobless
I think Carter was one of the originators of the Glass Steagall Act. I think his name was Carter Glass or Steagall.
thanks
OWH on Sunday was overrun by a protest group against the pipeline from Canada to Texas.. Support for this coertion of the movement"Occupy the White House" was sanctioned in secret by the General assemblyOWS!! It has now become more than speculation that the DNC progressive wing has infiltrated the entire movement and the General Assembly,and that the President may be in the loop. Demand transparency!! You are being taken over in secret. Demand answers for what happened in DC Sunday!
The Only Way to Save the Economy: Break Up the Giant, Insolvent Banks
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/10/the-only-way-to-save-the-economy-break-up-the-giant-insolvent-banks.html
The following top economists and financial experts believe that the economy cannot recover unless the big, insolvent banks are broken up in an orderly fashion:
(1) Nobel prize-winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz
(2) Nobel prize-winning economist, Ed Prescott
(3) Former chairman of the Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan
(4) Former chairman of the Federal Reserve, Paul Volcker
(5) Former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich
(6) Dean and professor of finance and economics at Columbia Business School, and chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President George W. Bush, R. Glenn Hubbard
(7) Simon Johnson
(8) Former 20-year President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, who was today nominated to be FDIC Vice Chair Thomas Hoenig
(9) President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Richard Fisher
(10) President of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, Thomas Bullard
(11) Deputy Treasury Secretary, Neal S. Wolin
(12) The President of the Independent Community Bankers of America, a Washington-based trade group with about 5,000 members, Camden R. Fine
(13) The Congressional panel overseeing the bailout
(14) The head of the FDIC, Sheila Bair
(15) The head of the Bank of England, Mervyn King
(16) The leading monetary economist and co-author with Milton Friedman of the leading treatise on the Great Depression, Anna Schwartz
(17) Economics professor and senior regulator during the S & L crisis, William K. Black
(18) Leading British economist, John Kay
(19) Economics professor, Nouriel Roubini
(20) Economist, Marc Faber
(21) Professor of entrepreneurship and finance at the Chicago Booth School of Business, Luigi Zingales
(22) Economics professor, Thomas F. Cooley
(23) Economist Dean Baker
(24) Economist Arnold Kling
(25) Former investment banker, Philip Augar
(26) Chairman of the Commons Treasury, John McFall
Actually, we may not have to force the break-up of the big banks because their insolvency is getting worse by the minute which will inevitably lead to their demise. Noriel Roubini stated in an article yesterday that he believes Goldman and the rest are headed for catastrophe because they invested heavily in the debt of Greece, and who knows who else in Europe. Like MF Global, they could collapse any day now and they will have been their own worst enemy and we will have witnessed the taking down of our largest financial institutions. What really needs to happen is the regulation of the derivatives market and shadow banking.
well said. yes, these derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction and have to go. debt-bomb 'dark pools' of malfeasance
thanks for postiing! glad to hear we have some big wigs on our side. Too bad we can get the ones like Gramm, Larry Summers, Chris Dodd, Clinton and the rest to owe up to it--that might do it--but it will never happen--they're all fat cats now--they don't need our votes anymore
Great Idea !
Thanks PublicCurrency!
Wish I could be there !
Well, please just remember, it's not just about holding the March or Protest in Washington, D.C (just part of it), sure that has been done before, with great and luke warm results; but, what's different about this one is that its held in every city in America, on the same day or week, or month, for ever long it takes, and with the two clear goals to start with: To Bring back G-S Act and Close these Oil Loopholes! So go to your local group, that's one thing OWS has done better and quicker than any nonprofit I've ever seen done in 40 years: To United almost every city overnight, let's not lose let this great opportunity pass us by...Now its time for clear focus!
Will look into it. We have had some protests in this part of the state. The date is far enough out, that it should be very possible ! Glass-Steagall was the first law they removed and it should be the first one we reinstate.
thank you partner for that
Glass-Steagall Act and the current crisis. Investment banks were really operating commercial banks. They were indirectly funding mortgage loans and the short commercial paper was like deposits. They were no longer just funding an underwriting operation and using commercial paper for "working capital" and having securities pass through their hands as they underwrote them and sold them off to investors. No, they were issuing quasi-deposits and making quasi-loans. But... it would take very creative interpretation of Glass-Steagall to prohibit this as being illegal competition with commercial banks. The reality is that both investment banks and commercial banks are in trouble because they held large portfolios of mortgage backed securities. This still need to be addressed. Stricter Regulations
Bill HR 1489(glass/steagall act) has been assigned to the House Committee on Financial Services WE have list of everyone on the committee right here http://occupationamerica.org/Re-implementation_HR1489.html
We also have an incompetent SEC and let's not forget the ratings agencies failings as well. Complex financial instruments/derivatives is what blew the market up and continues to, to this day. Still to this day no one knows who is exposed and how much exposure there is in the derivatives market, how sick is that? And no one is doing a damn thing about it.
Thanks for posting this OccAmerica! I completely agree! Please get behind this March! We need you! I just have this vision (hope) it will work...
I think that OWS is wise to stick to what it knows. Offshoot groups are and should be taking up specific demands, but once the Occupy movement itself gets tied to this or that specific demand, it gives up its greatest strength and opens itself to sophistry and manipulation by the pros--K street, the pols, the press--the usual suspects. OWS is and should remain above politics. It is expressing the irrefutable: people are sick and tired of what is going on and have lost all respect for the powers that be.
The OWS is way over it's HEAD (never thought "I" would say that). They need to come clean...after all honesty is the best...
Love you all, but, you have to understand you have this little Window Open to get it done right, It doesn't stay Open long...So Go thought it now before with Specific Goals before it's closed, in other words, get something Big Accomplished now. Whatever you may be thinking now...? that's what makes me realize you are way over your Head. So admit it, and get some help, now.
You have thousands of people camping out for you with no Major Plan to Reform WS; sounds like too many Chiefs to me. Be real, how long do you think this will last? I Saw it happen twice in 70's with other reform groups, which I can't even remember there names now...
Here's how to do it, be humble, and reach out to the WS Reform Experts: otherwise this will be over 2 months,
You guys are kicking ass now, reach out before your flame goes out...for me you are the best thing since sliced bread. Please take me in the right context...
thanks for that bugbuster. And as I mentioned above: I feel this needs to be the OWS's first BIG Victory (as name implies)--And with all due respect, I feel you owe it to the WS Protestors to Get Something Done That They Can Really Be Proud Of--And There is Nothing Bigger Than Bringing Back The G-S Act and Closing These Loopholes!
How about signing the petition Dean Baker is circulating to demand that Congress impose a financial transaction tax on those greedy bastards on Wall St.. This would be a good start to begin to reign in their out of control pursuits of ever more money.
great idea mv, please post link here, if you don''t mind. thanks in advance
This is the link to the petition for demanding a financial transaction tax on every transaction that happens on wall st. everyone should sign it please. http://www.civic.moveon.org/rebuildpetition/taxwallstreet/?id=32718-7040436-0M7Kdvx&t=2
I completely agree that G-S needs to come back along with a suite of other common sense banking reforms. I don't think it can happen yet. Appeals to Washington will fall on deaf ears. OWS is attacking nothing less than the legitimacy of the US government itself. As long as it sustains a non-violent, persistent presence, public perception of the federal government's illegitimacy can only grow. At some point Washington will have to do something legitimate to defend itself. They know what's right. They don't need OWS to tell them. Christ, they're on the public payroll to do that. They just have to show up one day and do their job for a change.
And with all due respect President Clinton, your new book on how to get American back to work, should be called: Let's Bring Back The G-S Act and Close Oil Speculators Loopholes--Sorry America, I goofed, let me make it up to those who elected me into office... See he's I make a mistake here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs3Z2Z2WMJk&feature=related
You are so right: don't attack, just demand, but ALWAYS nonviolently! Next is Congress, then, we can change it with our voices and vote, but always nonviolently!
I guess I'm just a dreamer, but what I see on 6/16/12 (or on any date) is that Every City in American gets on the same page and stands-up and tells Congress: We got you there by our votes, not the WS lobbyist, so we demand you to bring back G-S Act and finally reel in the Oil Speculators!
It might work, if everyone gets on the same page.. what do you think?
You are so right: don't attack, just demand, but ALWAYS nonviolently! if you don't it Congress, next..we can change it with our voices and vote, but always nonviolently!
I guess I'm just a dreamer, but what I see on 6/16/12 (or on any date) is that Every City in American gets on the same page and stands-up and tells Congress: We got you there by our votes, not the WS lobbyist, so we demand you to bring back G-S Act and finally reel in the Oil Speculators!
It might work, if everyone gets on the same page.. what do you think?
The name of the game, in my opinion, is Hearts and Minds. America is a land of unrivaled mental density. Getting anything political through the thick skulls of my countrymen takes a lot of patience and persistence. We held the moral and common sense high ground along with most of the civilized world during the Nuclear Freeze Movement, but one or two words from one of world history's greatest liars, the oh-so-likeable (by some) Ronald Reagan, could undo months of patient work. So it is. This young movement is years ahead of everyone. What is obvious to OWS is like differential equations in Sanskrit to millions of voters. It's going to take time and patience.
nice analogies there! Time will tell...
....Banks Got Bailed Out!....
Btw, I feel the BEST and most EFFECTIVE way (and maybe only way) for this March to Reinstate the G-S Act will WORK is for it to not only be held in WDC, but also in every CITY on the 6/16/12, or whatever date you all decide on....that way, we have them...the jig is up Congress, we have your number....And our eduction on how we got here is the key! We all need to be on the same page....or in other words..we all know now what you all did in 1999!
"The purpose of our direct-action program is to create a situation so crisis-packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation." This statement is taken from the popular Forum site with a list of "ideas" This statement perfectly addresses why we need to Occupy the White House now! Some of these ideas are good, some miss the point, yet they are a coherent start.. But the Occupation does not need specifics handed down from the so-called "General Council" in order to do what is so specifically clear in the above statement>.. I quote it again: "The purpose of our direct-action program is to create a situation so crisis-packed that it will inevitably open the door to negotiation." The time is today!! Occupy the White House. Tell the President, this is the peoples house. Tell Congress< they all work for us. OWH begins today at 2:00..See you at the Gates!!! Nov 6th Today!!!! Not 6/12/12 You don't postpone momentum for 8 months..Who thought of this UN-characteristic idea anyway? The time is now!! The Capitol Police will not take down your tents or steal your Generators.. The World is watching.."Occupation of the White House begins today. Hundreds arriving now!! Join the peaceful next response which started with OWS, and now Expands to DC!! OWH Today!!
thanks for posting!
"Sounds good to me. When you OWS protectors finally get something done, let us know... I don't trust that you guys can make a ding to OUR system" by 1%ers
We will by votes, and with the right politcians such as Maria Cantwell, and the right lawyers such as Michael Greenberger, who both knows what happened, what's wrong, and how to fix it--it's at least our best bet! the 2008 hearings on oil speculators opened my eyes wide open, just too bad it was on just on CSPAN! Once I heard about OWS, it was time to throw imy hat into the ring...Just feel strongly that G-S Act and Closing all Loopholes should be the Major Platform, with that done, the rest will fall into place, such as getting most money out of Politics, why? they won't have as much to spend then...plus with that done on The Hill, we have have the strong voice we need!
Reimplementing GSA will go far, and it should definitely be done. But it can't be done until we get corporate money out of politics.
Our first agenda item must be a constitutional amendment. "Only political organizations, receiving 100% of their income from individual citizen donations, can participate politically. All non-political organizations shall not participate politically"
After such an amendment, reinstating GSA is a piece of cake because the corporations with the most to loose would have no way to stop it.
I see your point, but, this will get thier ATTENTION the most; for example, most of WS's wealth was created when they repealed the G-S Act in 1999, the $ they now have to buy our lawmakers. It's repoted it was the biggest lobbying bonanza of all time--WS spent over 5 Billion to repeal it, now we see why.
I feel strongly we need this to be the first big one, March to bring back G-S Act, this one that will rock them to the core, and then attach the rest on to that. my two cents. thanks for this fronierteg.
Check this vid out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q
Hmmmm....
And while they're running around figuring out how to get around the GSA, then we hit them with the Constitutional Amendment.
Confound them, then attack!!! I like it!
thanks!!!! we will get your great ideas done next!
Here are some ideas for tactics and demands that may be helpful http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/
hit my limit today, will send it to you Monday.
thanks! And we have to get Michael Greenber on case, former Director of CFTC, who's currently working with Congress on what's wrong with the Dodd-Frank Bill--He will GET IT RIGHT FOR US, once again...
http://www.michaelgreenberger.com/doddfrank.html
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btw, my idea is here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/howtodoits-proposal-on-how-to-accomplish-the-march/
R&R never forgets!!! :) Cheers partner! Keep up the great work you are doing for us therising!
please pass his name on to the powers at be, he's the one that blew the whistle in 2008:
Former Director of U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Professor Michael Greenberger, speaks to Congress in 2008 on the high price of oil--and he's not happy about Energy Deregulations, especially The Loopholes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbdtTGYQBMU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNp0y0SjOkY&feature=related
Here...you are engaging politicos still. Bringing anything to their attention is fruitless my man. I hear your passion. I hear your determination. I hear you call for a new world. We arent going to have the Capital Hill behind us on this. Indeed, we may not have many world governments behind us on this.
I would think walking the direction OPPOSITE of capital hill would be most effective. Perhaps take a walk some where and start a new civilization all together. Indeed, this is what many of our ancestors had to do (e.g. most recently in the 1600's) in order to separate from tyranny and greed. So, I suggest, if people want to walk through DC one last time to see what the falling empire looks like before it crumbles...thats one thing. But to stop here and try to make a difference in modern politics will not only fail, but will perpetuate the powers that be.
watch out Congress! here we come!
We must not loose this tremedous opportunity to Bring Back the Glass-Steagall Act! The OWS owes the Protestors and America this! Get Focused! Before you loose this chance!
Not going to happen. No one is voting.
DKAtoday 1 points 1 hour ago
Create sign and send petitions.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/create-sign-and-send-petitions/ reply permalink edit delete ↥ ↧ DKAtoday 1 points 44 minutes ago
See also lobbydemocracy:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/i-have-spent-1000-hours-on-this-solution-please-ta/
A site to collect, collate and submit issues.
thanks
It just does not get any better than this.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-the-white-house-owh-is-a-go-nov-6th-this-su/
CancelCurrency 1 points 34 minutes ago
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. July 4, 1776. reply permalink ↥ ↧ DKAtoday 1 points 4 minutes ago
Exactly so. We don't need to come up with new slogans or new demands. We just need to replay/renew our beginnings.
I know this sounds obvious, but forward this to everyone you know and have them do the same. This declaration should be at everyone of our rally's. It should be presented everywhere as the still-beating heart of this country and most especially this movement.
Keep spreading the word. It does not get any better than this.
Amen!
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DKAtoday 1 points 6 minutes ago
Perhaps this website could post a form where everyone could place they're insights/issues in a format that could collect the numbers of those responding and the number of issues and how many have the same issues. These could then be compiled after a given length of time and formatted into a list of demands/issues to be addressed and these could be presented at Protests/Demonstrations and by direct contact. reply permalink edit delete ↥ ↧ DKAtoday 1 points 0 seconds ago
Perhaps this website could also post a form where everyone could contribute likely future candidates.
If this can be done before the 6/16/12 march, it would be as good as anyplace to launch it. But if we can get it out sooner we should.
good night to our OWS troops...you're the best...
Its time...
cheers to our OWS Troops!
Wooot!
that it's--Woot for our troops! Hang in there, we will get something Big Accomplished for all of your scarifies for our Country! I hope and pray!
Hope to see you there. Between now and then, lets keep spreading the word. Lets keep advocating for change. Keep promoting thinking outside the box. Lets give serious thought about recalling our representatives that are fighting recovery/reform.
as always, right on DKAtoday!
Please support the Fair Elections Now Act. Call, e-mail and text your Congressmen and ask where they stand on this issue.
Senator Durbin reintroduced SB 750 in April 2011, (it didn’t come up for a vote in 2010) and there is a corresponding House Resolution 1404, The Fair Elections Now Act. Check out the bill on Thomas.gov or http://www.fairelectionsnow.org Opponents of this bill support the majority’s decision in Citizens United v. FEC.
Please support the Fair Elections Now Act. Call, e-mail and text your Congressmen and ask where they stand on this issue.
Senator Durbin reintroduced SB 750 in April 2011, (it didn’t come up for a vote in 2010) and there is a corresponding House Resolution 1404, The Fair Elections Now Act. Check out the bill on Thomas.gov or http://www.fairelectionsnow.org Opponents of this bill support the majority’s decision in Citizens United v. FEC.
I will! thanks for posting mtmama
Marching may soon become unlawful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upMQNRX2h0Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
wow. thanks for posting skizzy
we don't have wait to wait for our government to act to save us. we need to remember that we are the government, "we the people". you have the right idea though, we need to act together but through our iras, 401ks, and other similar investments. GET YOUR MONEY OUT OF WALL STREET RIGHT NOW. roll it into an ira at your locally owned bank. this will get wall street's attention plus it will give our locally owned banks (key here is LOCALLY OWNED bank) an infusion of cash. a bank is like any store in that they have to move their product in order to stay in business. you will see an increased desire by these local merchants (banks) to invest (hopefully locally) this cash infusion so they can pay you your guaranteed interest plus return your investment. by keeping things local you are no longer at the mercy of MR BIG. you stimulate your local businesses, you create jobs locally, you add tax revenues to your local governments, in general you stimulate your local economies.
nice thing about this is that we can do all this from our homes and make much more noise.
Or consider a ( non-profit ) credit union. But otherwise I agree, don't let WallStreet send your earnings/savings down the toilet.
Another Post for communications.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/six-degrees-of-seperation-use-it/
Spread the word.
that will do it too! but, feel bringing back G-S act will solve most of our WS problems first
It's time...
It's time....
And with all due respect OWS, You Know I love you all! But, I feel you owe it to the Protestors to Get Something Done That They Can Really Be Proud Of--And There is Nothing Bigger Than Bringing Back The G-S Act and Closing These Loopholes! While We Have the Force Behind US, Let's Go Through That Window..while it is Open, And get're done! Then, we Rule....
Any thoughts on this Post? 'em I too far out there? I think we can do it--to especially get it done for our troops who are in the trenches of Wall Street and the rest of the American and the World, the ones keeping this awesome movement alive and in the main stream! Love you all!!! Big change is a coming, and we can only thank you for this!
When this is Done and We have our Regulations back in Place--so we are all on an fair and even playing field once again--we have to Give a big Thanks to paulg4, he nailed down the Date of the March--how perfect! Which gave it so much more meaning....and Attention to Congress to Act Now!
See you all in WDC on 6/16/12!
We at dc are excited about 6/16/2012 march to capitol. People are getting some words here in DC.
hey daverao, what's the latest in DC? So far, to let everyone know what I was up to, I have reached out to almost everyone that either Wrote a story on the Forum, or was Featured on a youtube link; such as Public Citizen, James Galbrath (nice guy), Marcus Mabry, Matt Taibbi, Senator Byron Dorgan, Senator Maria Cantwell, Sam Stein, Eric Lipton, and my main man for reform, Professor Michael Greenberger. And so far, the response has been good. I also signed up for Twitter for this, which I still don't know what that means, except that the OWS is Following me...With that confidence, I Twitted this to the following:
Million People March to WDC to Reinstate Glass-Steagall Act. When? 6/16/12, 79th Anniv of G-S Act.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
To: Ralph Nader, OWS, OWS Times, The Other 99, Matt Taibbi, Senator Maria Cantwell, Senator Ted Kaufman, Senator Sanders, Dylan Ratigan Show, Ed Show, Keith Oblermann Show, Rachel Maddow Show, Jon Stewart Show, Finance Reform Org, RB Reich,
Cheers
Let's get this Done first, than we will have the Power to move on to....
It looks like Lot of people are for it except GA or the inner circle.
hey, changed last paragraph to read: I feel this needs to be the OWS's first Huge Victory (as name implies)--And since NOW you have the Protestors, I feel you Owe it to Them to get something Done that They can be really Proud of; such as Finally bringing Back the G-S Act and Closing these Loopholes.
I'm being followed by Occupy USA, and The OWS.
I just Twiited this: The OWS and Public Citizen http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=183 should Unite for The WDC March to Bring Back G-S Act on 6/16/12. http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
That will really help it get done right!
Besides the OWS, I also see this March to Bring Back the G-S Act being led with other advocacy groups such as Public Citizen, and other non-profits that have a lot of experience in Reforming Wall Street. Plus, all of the Individuals that are featured in this Forum! And more..So when we get this done, we all Win!
We all need to come together, no politics evolved...after all, isn't that what the OWS stands for? Democracy for all, for all to work together. Thanks for this daverao, Please keep spreading the word! This Forum is only a week old.
Awesome! please keep me posted! btw, WDC is my home town! born there, grew up in Silver Springs
Great. Silver spring is growing fast.
go Skins!
A fight involves losing sometimes just make sure its a fight you are willing to go through with.This is one of the fights.
so right jelm430, and I feel this is our first major battle, to bring back the G-S Act and Finally Close The Enron Loophole, which according to financial guru's; will bring the price of oil back to $60 a barrel; How? The unregulated speculator is gone....thanks for your post!
Oil Futures. Yes. This is most certainly an area of corruption, misuse, abuse.
any thoughts here? This is my pipe dream for the OWS, one that will help me sleep better at night...
i don't think we will ever get the federal senators/rep to make a campaign financing law that limits contribuations from corp/banks/wall street. the fair elections act died in the house in 2010. ii think we need a constitutional convention.
There is something in the air...Great point bern; although, If I may say, I feel the halls of justice are starting to turn to our direction...You have to believe it, I can feel it, breath it...Love the OWS and all it's partners. Thanks for this bern.
Update on oil speculators: CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton said in a March 25, 2011 letter to Cantwell that oil speculation is at “an all time high,” up 64 percent since June of 2008.
According to analysis compiled by Chilton, excessive oil speculation costs drivers between $8-16 per tank, depending on the kind of car they drive.
The Wall Street Reform bill approved last year called for the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) to implement speculative position limits in energy markets within 180 days of enactment. The CFTC is more than three months late on their January 2011 deadline to take action, while consumers continue to pay high prices at the pump, a press release from Cantwell's office states.
more here: http://murray.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pattyinnews?ContentRecord_id=89c8f1f4-47a3-4908-9d1b-3eb6d80e7909
Great idea. DC march. I along with hundreds of other posting have been calling this. I will be there.
see you there! thanks daverao
good night OWS
Close The Enron Loophole too!
see you on 6/16/12
Cheers to OWS protestors! Stay warm tonight, your work will pay-off soon! And when it's done, we can only thank you for your commitment to getting it done right!
Latest Leak on State Attorney General Mortgage Settlement: A Shameless Sellout to the Banks'
www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/latest-leak-on-state-attorney-general-mortgage-settlement-a-shameless-sellout-to-the-banks.html
thanks for sharing NightRunner
The American's Creed is the national creed of the United States of America. It was written in 1917 by William Tyler Page as an entry into a patriotic contest. It was adopted by the U.S. House of Representatives April 3, 1918.
I believe in the United States of America, as a government of the people, by the people, for the people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a republic; a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect union, one and inseparable; established upon those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes. I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it, to support its Constitution, to obey its laws, to respect its flag, and to defend it against all enemies.
We live in a country that has good people that have been to hell and back again fighting for our freedom and justice system to defend us against all of our enemies. I look forward to the day when we can hold our heads up high and say that we are proud to be Americans.The changes needed in our country, state, and local governments systems does not need to be fought on a battlefield, since the backroads and streets of America will do just fine. We have to get as many of our freinds involved to spread a the idea that together we can change our world. Occupy needs all the of the people to come together in the streets supporting freedom and justice for all. We need all of our votes counted to defend us against all of our enemies. Enemies = The Greedy 1% and those willing to take a bribe
There are places we can begin to rally ( along with ) besides at protest sites. I also really like your post.
Create sign and send petitions. The more inputs we have the better. http://occupywallst.org/forum/create-sign-and-send-petitions/
A site to submit issues have them collected, collated and submitted. www.lobbydemocracy.com
OUR BANNER/OUR CAUSE
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. July 4, 1776
Thanks to occupy our day of reckoning is near. Thanks DKAtoday
The hard part will be to remain strong. Don't forget to relax, recover, recharge.
Money is POWER and Occupy has to raise as much as possible.
Let's have our first Huge Victory by bring back the neccesary regulations that make this country work; the ones some lawmakers seemed to think we didn't need anymore, which now history is proving them wrong, twice again...right on partner! thanks for posting that.
any thought on holding this on 6/16/02?
“Each day is a special gift from God, and while life may not always be fair, you must never allow the pains, hurdles, and handicaps of the moment to poison your attitude and plans for yourself and your future. You can never win when you wear the ugly cloak of self-pity, and the sour sound of whining will certainly frighten away any opportunity for success. Never again. There is a better way.” (American Essayist and Psychologist, 1923-1996)
great point. One that needs to be heard too
From France - thanks for this post Howtodoit.
We are all with you (well, 99%) here in France - keep warm !
hello joiwind, thought you might like to see this great doc film on how Deregulations of the Financial Markets brought America down and the World:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
Hi France, I added a link to the Post that may help you understand the problems of your commodities speculation markets as well. Cheers Partner!
So why are oil prices high? The Enron Loophole is not Completely Closed:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/81243-the-enron-loophole
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/business/17grammside.html?pagewanted=a
Greetings joiwind. Thanks for that, We are with you too! Hope to see you in DC on 6/16/12. please help spread the word:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
I, we, will spread the word but I don't think I can make it to DC - not sure they'll let me in :)
you will be here in spirit! thanks again. take care
READ THIS BOOK, then March! Wildfire:The Legislation That Ignited The Great Recession!!
hey paulg4, never did receive your last message last night? and I still can't reply to you, it says "system malfunction"so please post here
get this?
fyi partners, it's 10:30 pm, and bugs are preventing me from receiving any replys..
March to WDC next!
DC 6/16/2012. Yes we have agreed for 6/16/2012. It wil be huge as whole world will watch us. Let us spread the word. I am back supporting OWS. We at DC are exited. I hope OWS is not pressured to cancel it.
Time to Focus!
thank you brother daverao!
Even the head of OPEC blames the high price of oil on speculators:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j6Xx0xO4M4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlTVYOu2M4Q&feature=relmfu
Heres a solid set of demands as a starting point for National news to recognize us..
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-demands-get-this-or-something-like-this-out-so/
thanks for posting this BonaFidePublius, great info for all to know. As you know, it's all about education first, realizing how we got here? which helps all of us to get on the same page; helps get things accomplished; so we are all know the agendas that made this country great. This movement so exciting, I call it true democracy at work...And people say that we don't know what they are doing? Do you think when America was 2 months old, they really knew it all yet? Can't wait for 1 year from now! The 99% needs a voice again! Cheers
Go to Daily Kos and there is somebody starting this also.
thanks for that heads up betsydoula! That's awesome! Please tell me where to find it here? http://dailykos.com/ and if you know the best way to reach, please share this link:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
http://www.dailykos.com/blog/Occupy%20the%20Mall Here is the link. I can't comment yet as I am a new member. I will share the link with this blogger for sure. We can make it happen!! Together!!
But, before this can happen, everyone has to be on the same page. Reform Wall Street First! nothing else, then we go for the rest...after all, the WS name says it all, let's be true to that first! Right?
Thanks betsydoula! I just emailed them and sent them this twiit:
Million People March to WDC to Reinstate Glass-Steagall Act. When? 6/16/12, 79th Anniv of G-S Act.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
Since watching the Senate hearings on the high price in 2008, and learning about repeal of G-S Act, I just want this over and done!. We all will do it together with one Voice! To Get WS right first!
Please send it too!
We need to get musicians involved to give a free concert in between our speeches from amazing people!!!
any thoughts here?
I know Willie Nelson was down at OWS a few weeks back. I don't know what other musicians would come, but Bon Jovi and U2 come to mind!! Perhaps thought the march may be a separate thing from something similar to Farm Aid??
yes! please think of a big event producer we can bring on, like the producer who does the 4th of July on the WDC Mall, or the Farm Aid one. Let's find them and reach out!
I am not sure how to divide my energy. We just started our local occupy and I feel strongly about being involved with its evolution. I will help any way I can. Give me a task and I will get it done if I can, or say no if I don't think I can.
hi betsydoula, please check out this film; the new thread to our Forum: http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-warning-frontline-show-former-cftc-chair-brook/
Please keep spreading the word!
please post this link on all facebook links, email, etc. that will really help now betsydoula to get this out and eventually done, so we can move on to campaign reform, voter rights, clean air, and all of the great issues people have mentioned on these Forums.
I think that would be great! make it a financial woodstock for reform! of course, lower key on great music, higher key on great speakers!
I agree. But it wouldn't hurt if the musicians are activists. It would attract more people but yes speakers like Marianne Williamson, Alan Sachs etc..
for me, you are on the right path...thanks bestydoula. Btw, as far as I know (first time at this) it's you and me and the others here. And when this gets done, take pride--And I can't thank you enough...
Check out www.peoplescongress.org. They are planning to convene on the Mall in May or June.
just sent them this: March for G-S Act. When? 6/16/12, 79th Anv. http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
thanks for the tip betsydoula. I'll email them tomorrow. cheers!
thoughts?
Is it true that President Obama has Wall Street heavy-hitters on his team?
yes. most of his financial team came for Goldman-Sachs. I hear ya, where's that Change he promised? hogwash. I'm a Independent and I voted for him, after 8 years of Bush, what was I suppose to do?
need event producers, anyone out there?
a huge victory would be putting a public voting system in place
added that to end of POST...
I didn't see ending wars listed
Done. And, of course, this just a quick summary.. I feel we need to get one big think done first, and then the rest will follow....
Nothing bad to say about the purpose, my only cry would be to make sure that everyone involved in the march actually understands that this is the purpose. I'm tired of all the people that just show up just because they want to be rebels. It's the purposeless protestors that give the rest of us a bad name. Not that I know how to accomplish that, but if this is to be successful, make sure it's unified in purpose. Otherwise you'll just have a mob of general complaints marching on capitol hill, nothing will get done.
or, as your last line sums up so well, "a mob of general complaints..." I feel that's why we are here, to not become that; and instead be a focused and respected organization. have a good night.
well taken. thanks for saying that
6/16/12, the 79th Anniversary of Enactment of The Glass-Steagall Act. Thoughts?
bring back G-S
cheers to OWS!
Bring Back Glass Steagall IMMEDIATELY!
check this link out: when G-S Act failed to pass Congress in 2009 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aQfRyxBZs5uc
wow! If it comes to a vote it should just be a clean up or down vote. No watering it down!
you nailed it, we can't take anything less...you guys have made enough dough off everyone
we need to find a big name event producer. One with contacts....I say make it the Financial Woodstock for Reform, with a clear focus...
any thoughts on the date? seem right?
Definitely after school is out because then more families can participate. For me, I would take my son out of school because he will learn more at a march on D.C. than in school anyhow!!
it'll be like herding cats. good luck
come with us
It's the glass ceiling
It's the most that can be done for economic inequalities
couldn't of said it better
Both parties are the lap dogs of the corporations and special interests - we need to get the money out of the politics and break the cycle of legalized bribery we currently have if we ever want to have our democracy back!!
yes!
As long we at OWS are puppet of unions, we will never be allowed to march in DC
Its going to take more then a million people, more like millions to make a difference.
yes! it will happen!
time to do it, see you there Scott Olsen! Our man!
Hell yeah!
Don't forget about corporate personhood/lobbying
I won't and I'll see you in WDC! And to help spread the word please send this to your friends: http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
I can see it now, with 1-2 million march on WDC, they will be shaking in their...
cash flashes blast exposed eyes 0 reeling from the wheeling and dealing 0 distracted tracking stacking chips 0 vision on derision deferred
I know, I hear ya. so what about his Time for Change speech, oh well, hindsight is 20-20.
time for our way to make CHANGE! By the people and for the people...
The Obimination just had a "Political Dinner" in California at $35,000 a plate. Could you afford that to be able to talk to him? I don't think so.
Hey, the Obimination gives GE a free "tax" ride and now 'GE is making solar panels in China
who's with us to a March to Capitol Hill?
who's with us, next is to set a date, thoughts?
Hi Howtodoit, Excellent.
thanks again Nevada1. Added this, thought you might like it:
What happened when some in Congress tried to Reinstate The Glass-Steagall Act in 2009? (cut to the chase--it was blocked by both parties from coming-up for a vote on the Senate Floor) : http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aQfRyxBZs5uc And when some tried to save it in 1999? http://www.occasionalplanet.org/2010/10/07/glass-steagall-one-democratic-senator-who-got-it-right/
Hi Howtodoit, Thanks for the link. Am writing members of senate and congress to again consider reinstating Glass-Steagall. May not help, but feel compelled to do it. Thank you, Nevada
how about sending them this link too, letting them know what we are up to, it may help the casue:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
please share with anyone, I'm brand new at this, just did my first twitt, whatever that means...Let''s get 're done OWS!
Just tweeted. I am new at that too. Will post to facebook at my local Occupy. Maybe make a meet-up event (link from www.occupytogether.net), I will share this at NYC GA in the think tank group and elsewhere.
6/16/12 March needs to happen betsy; especially after last night...recent tweets:
@BarackObama in Union Speech said Wall Street is fixed! Not by Dodd-Frank Act, that was written for Wall Street. Glass-Steagall now! #news
TellTheWhiteHouse #Congress their Dodd-Frank PR move is waste $--we take "nothing less" than Glass-Steagall Act & '74 @CFTC Act! #ows #news
@GrandmaJSilver Thxs Rts J! Time to go into overdrive! Turn up heat! Congress here we come to take back our Gov from Wall Street! #ows #news
thanks!!!
Perfect. That's how you do it, way before these forums. Here's some links to share:
Hat's off to DKAtoday for these:
Spread the word advocate for change. Contact the White house: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
Contact the senate: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
Contact Congress: http://www.contactingthecongress.org/
Contact the house of representatives: http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep?ZIP=55433
Contact the Supreme Court: http://www.supremecourt.gov/
thanks Nevada!!!
YES I couldnt agree more! great post! Glass-Steagall is a huge key to all the greed. people sadly look over that point. it is a powerful act.
yes, they got it right in 1933! Thanks for that Justlaughalitte718
anytime. in times of need, people need to talk & come together.
join us!
Our next step is organization, who's on board? any event producers out there? I see us taking over the Lincoln Memorial! I know how to do it, but need all of your help!
next step, is the Million People March to Hill website!
and I pray Scott Olsen will March again with us on WDC! Let's all pray for him!
You mention Enron corruption. You probably already know that Michelle Obama is having a fundraiser at the home of an ex-Enron executive on November 1st, right?
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1011/houston_fundraiser_drama_6cccc297-f2cd-4cc6-a869-28e72d10b851.html
this is so wrong PolkaDot, we should protest this too! Here me Texas OWS!
no I didn't! wow. so much for keeping them honest, huh? thanks for posting that PolkaDot
No problem. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.
so right, that's a history lesson in itself!
Yes. One million people could follow this plan and achieve real results. Note, over 25,000 people voted for this list of demands online on unrelated site and over 1900 people commented on the post at occupywallst.org
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/
who's coming to the march?
thanks for sharing that thersing
You're welcome
I have it, almost done, a very detailed G-S Plan, should I POST it as a Forum? or just send as we taked?
love your POST partner!
Make sure you organize it properly, though. Permits, the whole nine yards. Don't be too rash. I hear those cops in DC are a bunch of hard asses, especially after 9/11. Make sure it's done right, don't want to give them any reason to club a million heads. Or worse, declare martial law.
you are so right, But, we have our rights with Park Service who issues permitts. After All the great MLK got it done! we can too! please stay with us gnomunny. thanks
let's shoot for 5 million!
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June 16, 2012 the 79 year anniversary of the enactment of the Glass–Steagall Act would be a good date and plenty of time to plan the invasion!
hey paulg4, I added the DATE June 16, 2012 to post. see 2nd to last line. Are you okay with me adding your name there? Again, perfect idea!
Here are a few other key dates that should be planned for in advance!
Democratic national convention http://charlottein2012.com/
Republican National Convention http://2012tampa.com/
thanks for posting!
no problem!
cool. see you in dc in June!
great idea paulg4! please stay in touch
Who Repealed Glass-Steagall?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0k2PmF-o5Q
Did these government officials have any ideas about why they should not vote for Gramm Leach Blilely?
Who repealed GS? I know, I know! BILLARY!!!!!
The new Bill Moyers PBS show Moyers and Company is all about bringing back Glass-Steagal and the OWS movement: http://billmoyers.com/
Along with bringing back Glass-Steagal, let's REALLY get rid of the TAFT-HARTLEY ACT and Citizens United!!
Keep informed by watching MOYERS AND COMPANY http://billmoyers.com/
Let's knock them all out! Go PBS!
Unite and Win! Unite and Win! 2010 Never EVER Again!!
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We need the top 52 Pigs that are destroying the world displayed on a deck of playing cards/wanted poster.
Title each playing card consistently "Top Pig/52" along with their name a caricature/ and or photo of the beast (maybe beast is a little harsh?). (perhaps add a famous one-liner of theirs or maybe print: REWARD _, FREEDOM, LIBERTY, ETC.)
Get these signs professional designed and printed based on a consensus/vote/ better yet a sponsor who will donate a minimum to cover the cost, march or protest with them in hand, and anything over gets added to the movement.
I think you get the idea. Have fun expanding on this most serious matter.
Great idea. Thanks
Take away the Congress's right and other political positions insider trading.
yes, we have to do that as well. thanks
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Its about time!....and when you do, carry these signs or nothing will ever change.
Some of the younger folk know something is wrong, but don't know exactly what, like us awakened people do. What I don't understand is, why are none of the names of the criminal elites on all the signs that the protesters are carrying? The thing that the elite cabal fear MORE THAN ANYTHING, is the knowledge that we know who they are personally...and total exposure is the only thing that will stop them! "End the Fed" is a great start, but it is still too benevolent. We should be carrying signs that show loudly and clearly that we know exactly who they are! That way they can't hide behind the faceless blanket term "GLOBALISTS", 'BANKERS', "ELITE", "FEDERAL RESERVE", "1%" or "NWO".
Most people think the Federal Reserve is a government entity. It is not. It is privately owned by the world's wealthiest families and royal families who have violently protected their identiites from being connected to the federal reserve. They are responsible for a countless loss of life to try to keep this secret for many, many, many generations. The internet has been their worst enemy and hopefully will release their strangle hold on us.
The signs should read things like "ROTHSCHILDS END YOUR RULE", "ROTHSCHILDS SHOULD BE IN JAIL", "ROCKEFELLERS ARE GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINALS", "KISSINGER WANTS 90% DEPOPULATION", "QUEEN ELIZABETH & PRINCE CHARLES ARE DEPOPULATIONISTS", "KRUPPS ARE KILLERS", "ASTORS ARE BANKER THEIVES", "BUSH FAMILY ARE GENOCIDE PLOTTERS", "BUFFET ENGINEERED ECONOMIC CRASH", "GREENSPAN ENGINEERED ECONOMIC MELTDOWN", "GLOBALISTS DEPOPULATE YOURSELVES - END YOUR RULE", "MEROVINGIANS ARE THEIVES", "WALDORFS ARE KILLERS", "FREEMANS ARE CRIMINALS", "CARNEGIES ARE CRIMINALS", "SCHIFFS ARE BANKER CRIMINALS", "MONARCH FINANCIAL RULE ENDS NOW", etc.
Unless we expose the ROOT CAUSE, the invisible ruling elite will still be there to do these things to us again another day. The important but lesser problems will get fixed properly once the ruling elite are gone and honest people are elected. Always aim to take down the very top peak of the pyramid....or nothing will ever change. EXPOSE THEM!! If the whole world knows who they are, they can't hide. Each country that is protesting, needs to look up their countries ruling elite names, illuminati names, NWO names and get them on as many signs as possible and show the whole world who they are! If we focus on this one idea, they won't be in power for much longer. Spread the word!! Don't do this by yourself! This has to be done en masse....if only a few do this, they'll be escorted away. But if tens of thousands do it at the same time, what are they going to do? They can't get all of us. Strength in numbers!
There are many more North American criminal ruling elite families that need to be exposed;
CLINTONS, WARBURGS, LEHMANS, MORGANS, SOROS, RUSSELS, COLLINS, RUMSFELDS, CHENEYS, GATES, KOCH BROTHERS, KUHN LOEBS, LAZARDS, VANDERBILTS, DUPONTS, MCDONALDS, DESMARAIS, WINDSORS, CAPETIANS, BORJAS, VATICAN BANK, LI'S, SAUDI ROYALS, MONSANTOS, and others....
EXPOSE THESE CRIMINAL RULERS!!!! They need to see their own names on tv.
History of The Federal Reserve ~ Enlightening!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7757684583209015812
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Leynna
I gotta ask my mom first if I can go. She's already footing the bill for my tent and sleeping bag, plus allowance money
I'll buy! Let me know what day you want to be there partner! For me, you guys, are the one's keeping this mission alive and in the main stream; and without you, it would be dead! So take pride, when we get it right, once again, we can only thank you all! God Bless our Troops in the tenches of WS and throughout American and the World! Love you all!
If you have all the answers why don't you run for office?
you're funny, thanks, that's a good one, but, I'm just a messenger. see you on 6/16/12!
Lol your very name screams your arrogance. Now that's funny.
lol! have a good day! thanks for the other post!
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Great post and great idea !!!!! Is anyone or organization behind this yet ? Can someone intoduce this in the OWS general assembly ? It needs to go far beyond that though.It requires a WIDE coalition of like-minded organizations.Would be awesome to combine w/ a general strike-or "sick-out". The OCT. MORITORIUM against the Vietnam WAr in 1970 attempted a general strike across the nation,combined w/ a huge March on Washington.I was there,and the March did draw over a million people ! The strike was less sucessfull,but a great idea. Labor would be more behind this event because the issues are really juggular to them.They can't call for wildcat strikes,but could promote sick-outs,and lunch-time rallys across the nation.The National Student organization could be a huge help,as well as Move-ON,ect. WE need to think big like this if we are going to win.A small group in Zucatti Park could be the spark that started the" revolution",but it's not the revolution.Unless we stand together-en mass- we have no real power,and the police will continue to be the systems storm-troppers...intimidating us. GO BIG OR GO HOME !
Thanks. Great ideas rroll1951. No one yet is behind this but you and me and others here (one day old POST); although, I do know the OWS is aware of this page. As you agreed, I feel the next goal for this MARCH is getting organized. I have film production experience, started in WDC. Once knew Park Service. I think this should be held on the Lincoln Memorial, with great speakers such as Michael Greenberger and Matt Taibbi, and some music. Sure we can get some celebrities too! And the Vets have to be there, I'm one. Please help, submit to OWS! Please! My goal since 2008 is get G-S Act back and to Close The Enron Loophole. The OWS is a dream come true! Let's keep talking. You are the first to really bite hard on this!
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It's all about education first! How we got into this financial mess, then everyone will be on the same page! Thanks seshatasefekht. please spread the link around:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-time-for-a-million-people-march-to-capitol-hil/
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I feel that sums up the OWS. thanks for sharing seshatasefekht
yes, that also has to be part of out platform in WDC!