Forum Post: It's all lies - Obama didn't know - Intel agencies warned U.S. Embassy in Egypt of possible violence
Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 1, 2012, 9:50 p.m. EST by Shayneh
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I really wonder if Obama really knows what's going on in the world of intelligence reports he receives. This link explains why the US Embassy in Egypt was being warned about the video and of possible violence prior to September 11.
This information must have come across the desk of Obama but I guess he was in campaign mode and was more concerned about writing his speeches.
Obama is really on top of things when it comes to foreign policy isn't he -
Here's the link:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/17/us-usa-egypt-warning-idUSBRE88G1HG20120917
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Typical Obama supporter always has to blame someone else. The buck stops with the President. If this was still Bush, this coverup would be all over the media. Ambassador Stevens even wrote in his diary for months of his fear of a terrorist attack. Why was it so hard to admit that it was a terrorist attack and even after admitting it was a terrorist attack by his press secretary, the UN ambassador Rice was still blaming the video as well as the President in his UN speech.
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“Based on information provided to the Committee by individuals with direct knowledge of events in Libya, the attack that claimed the ambassador’s life was the latest in a long line of attacks on Western diplomats and officials in Libya in the months leading up to September 11, 2012. It was clearly never, as Administration officials once insisted, the result of a popular protest,” the committee’s chairman, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., and subcommittee chairman, Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, write. “In addition, multiple U.S. federal government officials have confirmed to the Committee that, prior to the September 11 attack, the U.S. mission in Libya made repeated requests for increased security in Benghazi. The mission in Libya, however, was denied these resources by officials in Washington.”
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/02/Issa-Calls-For-Libya-Hearings
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/02/Wapo-Obama-Knew-AQ-growing-Threat-Libya
http://isakson.senate.gov/press/2012/9-25-12lettertoClinton.html
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/258721-gop-senators-request-communications-on-libya-killings
http://www.knoxvilledailysun.com/news/2012/september/corker-demands-answer-for-libya-attack.html
Can we get an auto ban for any links to breitbart?
It's an automatic link to bullshit.
It doesn't make it any less true.
Based on his track record, it couldn't be more false either.
Why don't you investigate it yourself.
GR8 suggestion - send it in to jart.
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It doesn't matter who reports it. I first heard it on my local news. Then I looked into it because I didn't want to believe that our State dept would deny extra security after previous attacks and the ambassador's own fears and requests for it. That's why I also pasted links from capitol hill which is covering the investigation and a local newspaper. The Hill reports on events going on on the hill. The fact that breitbart is one of the few reporting that the consulate had been attacked in the months leading up doesn't make it any less true. It actually shows that most news outlets won't report on anything that makes their candidate or his admin look bad. CNN initially reported on the diary of Stevens who was afraid and had requested help. The state dept denied him any help. Is CNN lying too? Does the the Hill website also lie.
As usual, instead of a conversation, you resort to name calling. That's usually the sign of someone who's given up on any more intelligent information. Here's something new. Why don't you do some research instead of blindly believing everything you hear in the NYTimes or MSNBC. I prefer to get my information from multiple sources and draw my own conclusions. That's the way intelligent people make informed decisions.
My post was in response to yours that it was up to the ambassador to ask for more security. We find out that he did ask and was refused. Betsy Ross asks you a question and your response was "I have no idea - I haven't had time to peruse all of the available information on this topic. I would recommend the NYT - they often provide insight if you read carefully. wait - scratch that. From your other posts it's clear the task is beyond you."
It would appear that the task is beyond you, dog.
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I think that your agenda is quite apparent especially since you make phone calls for the Prez. There are no distorted facts here just facts you refuse to believe. I guess the fact that the Libyan gov't warned the US about the attacks 48 hours before them makes no difference either. If Bush was still president, you would be screaming at the top of your lungs that the administration used a stupid video to distract from their lack of competence in handling the security of a consulate in a hot newly formed country on the anniversary of 9/11. You are the partisan one here. You can't see past your own agenda. And yes, the NY Times is as biased as you are. You need to open your horizons to other outlets and stop repeating the drool that that NYT and MSNBC dishes out to who they think are the blind sheep.
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I don't what that has to do with the topic we were discussing. Focus.
You want to start a new topic? We've had 4 years of no mobility with this President so the NYT is correct. I didn't say they were wrong, I said they are biased. They only report what helps their agenda and not the whole truth.
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I believe you are the one in attack mode. I've never seen you disagree with anyone "in a congenial manner". You are the one that resorts to name-calling when anyone disagrees with you and you give up the argument. With you, if you don't agree, you must be republican. There is no in between, just your view or the enemy, black or white, no gray. I've never resorted to name-calling with you or anyone. I welcome good arguments but not lies, talking points or misinformation.
As far as breaking up the banks, Dodd-Frank is watered down. We must contact our representatives in office and running for office in our communities and states with petitions, emails, visits and any other way possible to let them know that we want Glass Steagle back and no other watered down version. It's not that difficult especially at this time when these people are trying to be re-elected or elected. The difficulty is only in putting forth the effort to mobilize people in every community to push this. Instead of attacking people on this site, the time is better spent educating them and trying to get them to work in their communities for the the same outcome. The legislators are the important elections.
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As usual, you have to resort to labeling people that don't agree with you and name calling because you have nothing intelligent to add.
Go make your phone calls for your chosen leader. The fact that you do that for free shows how far you are in the tank for him. When you have something unbiased, factual and intelligent to add to the conversation, let us know.
Meanwhile, let me see if I can get some movement on getting Glass Steagle reinstated instead of the watered down version that accomplishes nothing in the Dodd-Frank bill and has yet to be implemented after 2 years.
Breaking up the big banks and stopping the corruption between Wall St and gov't is what OWS was initially about. Why would anyone with a brain support an admin that has not moved forward on breaking these big banks up and gives in to his contributors. The Dodd-Frank bill got watered down because of the influence of Wall St and corruption in congress as well as the admin. Even if it finally gets implemented, it will do nothing to break up these big banks. Let's get back on message here and work together to get GS back into law.
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Dude-
The quote you posted is from another POST put together by brightsonsage which referenced an article in the New York Times- so you're quoting brightsonsage-NOT the NYT. Here's a link to the actual article IN the NYT if you'd like to read it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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I suppose the Hill is wrong too. Why don't you investigate it yourself. Obviously you are close-minded to anything that doesn't support your claims.
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What are they citing as the reason for all of the OTHER attacks against the Benghazi consulate in 2012?
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there had been terrorists threats for months, AND there were previous terrorist attacks on the embassy in benghazi.
Singles right your carrying obamas water and it looks bad when you do that because he's to blame for this.
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Seems like there was plenty of intel-some of it even on FACEBOOK for crying out loud-that Ambassador Stevens was in danger constantly throughout 2012 prior to Sept 11th. So who in the hell sent him TO Benghazi that day? Why would a man whose journal demonstrates that he is afraid for his life voluntarily FLY INTO Benghazi on Sept 11th???????
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So then this administration has not been on of "change" and different practices. But you're fine with that in this case.
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You don't apply-you get assigned.
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Just makes you look bad when you carry his water. Down with the 1% just not the dem 1% that's what it looks like you are saying.
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As long as its not rep progress? Hard to be a revolutionary when you carry dem water nothing common about that.
you are revolutionary? or just revolting?
Depends on who you ask, I'm neither actually. I just have a bad habit of pointing out bullshit when I see it. When your spouting bullshit that would make you unhappy.
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Nothing like a blanket indictment of an entire group of people to "bring common sense to the issue of how we get to a place where reasonable legislative progress can take place." (Your words in quotes)
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Please show me the facts we are denying.
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Try applying the same standard to you democratic blinders.
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Is it true that you work for the democrats?
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So, you're an Obama lover? Volunteering is worse than working because you do it for free, out of love. And, here I am, spending my days protesting against Obama with Occupy.
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I'm against all who are corrupted and part of the 1%. I'm an anarchist. An occupier.
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Nope. You're a bleating reactionary 'TrashyTroll' !!
http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-protest-tactics-should-ows-use-in-its-second-/ &
http://occupywallst.org/forum/whats-this-sites-remaining-life-expectancy/ !!
nosce te ipsum ...
No, I am against corruption. This is the truth. But, if it makes you feel good, you can call me a "troll" instead of countering my arguments, that's OK.
You have no "arguments" ! You are "against corruption" - so what d'you want ?!! A Fkn Medal ?!!! WhoTF is NOT against "corruption", ffs ? Only the 'corrupters' would be for "corruption", right ?
ad iudicium ...
Against Obama? not against the wall st 1% plutocrats?
Obama is part of the 1%. He's corrupted like all the 1%.
Right. You already said you are against Pres Obama.
My question was are you not against the wall st 1% plutocrats who crashed the world economy and continue to prey on the 99% and our families?
Or Is Pres Obama the only one you are against? Is he the only 1% plutocrat? Maybe there are others?
I'm against all the 1% and all those who help the 1%. Obama helps the 1%. Romney helps the 1%. Most politicians help the 1%. I'm against all these people. I favor a governmental system where the people lead, or where the government truly works for the people, and not the owners of big corporations.
You appear to only attack Pres Obama. You haven't attacked any other 1% oligarch!
And you certainly haven't pushed any positive govt sys, where people lead, & works for the people.
You only have anti Obama partisan campaign attacks.
You don't kiddin anyone.
Do you support the effort by NY AG (with fed govt) to sue Jp Morgan/Bear Sterns?
How do you feel about the congress defunding the effort to prosecute wall st 1%'rs? (fr almost $200 million to $20 million) Who is responsible for that?
Read my comment here. I attack all those part of the 1%, not just Obama: http://occupywallst.org/forum/its-all-lies-obama-didnt-know-intel-agencies-warne/#comment-847989
You linked to the same comment!
Very clever. But not proof that you attack anyone else. In fact you don't.
It's ok. A lot of people come here to only attack one politician. I think it is just anti Obama partisan campaigning.
There are important issues that all pols have been guilty of passing, or not fighting against.
You didn't comment on my questions regarding prosecutiing wall st 1% plutocrats.
Let me ask another!
Do you think all our problems are rooted in pro 1% conservative policies and the weak dems who vote for them?
Zen is just a dem lapdog he will never look honestly at his god. Don't think he will logically demand the same from his masters as he does everyone else
Intelligence reports he receives?
NO. He's been skipping them.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-skipping-more-than-half-of-his-daily-intelligence-meetings/2012/09/10/6624afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
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We are not talking about what Bush, Cheny or Rumsfeld did - nor are we talking in "past terms" - we are talking about what Obama didn't do and we are talking in "present terms".
So tell me why Obama keeps stating this wasn't a "organized attack".
What is really interesting about this whole debachle is they made a comment that there were "non violent protests" going on at that time and this was an "unplanned attack".
So let me ask - when you have "non-violent protesters" in the street and all of a sudden you have 30 so called "non-violent protesters" walk in with AK-47's, rocket launchers and gernades do you really think those 30 so called "non-violent protesters" just out of the blue decided hey
I'm going to take my AK-47 with me to the protest and maybe I will bring my rocket launcher just in case there may be a problem. Makes perfect sense doesn't it?
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The facts have already been presented - when did Obama finally concur that it was a terrorist attack? Apparently everyone knew before he did.
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What on earth makes you think that Obama's intelligence briefing documents look ANYTHING like Bush's? And we're not talking about briefs in document form handed to the President daily-we're talking about the weekly MEETINGS between the Intelligence leaders and the President that OBAMA RARELY ATTENDS!
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Losing track of your arguments are you?
Uneasy posted- "Intelligence reports he receives?
NO. He's been skipping them."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-is-obama-skipping-more-than-half-of-his-daily-intelligence-meetings/2012/09/10/6624afe8-fb49-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html
Note link says "skipping MEETINGS"
Why did you leave that word OFF if you can read it? I said weekly which is my bad.
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So then why did you include this crap regarding the DAILY DIGEST given to Bush?
Please tell me how an excerpt about a DAILY DIGEST given to Bush every day clears up anything about Obama skipping his DAILY meetings?
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You seem to be implying that the Sec of Def during the Bush years was doing something the then president didn't approve of or mandate or ask for....with no evidence to back that up.
Note-if you read the article you responded to-it says that Bush was handed a printed daily brief to read and THEN he went to the meetings every day.
You also seem to be implying that Obama is attending so many other meetings regarding the economy that he doesn't have time for his INTEL meetings...or is it that you think he's so depressed about the economy he can't make it downstairs in the morning?
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For a workaholic he sure goes on a lot of vacations and plays a lot of golf.
He got the job because people voted for him. If you think Obama's work history demonstrates a "workaholic" mentality, then Romney must be blowing your mind.
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It's interesting to note that Bush never missed a meeting - That just goes to show how much Bush was concerned with what was going on in the world with regard to major issues.
Obama on the other hand doesn't have time for it - and it has been showing within the last few weeks. Even now he shows no concerne
Bush ignored the warning that "Al Qaeda was intent on striking inside us" during the summer of 2001. Instead of doing anything he went on a month long vacation.
And in so doing allowed the worst attack on US soil!
Pres Obama/intelligence may have failed at preventing an attack on our embassy but that pales in comparison to your boy Bush!
In any event this weak attack on Pres Obama hugely successful Foreign policy is just more anti Obama partisan campaign attacks.
The dems and Pres Obama are 1000 times better at using the US military.
We have reduced US military killings from 1 million+ under repubs to thousands. We can protest against the remaining military mistakes and get a dem to implement real change. Your repubs have already promised to expand, escalate, & spend more on defense.
The choice is easy.
You got nothing.
Oh? Really? What SPECIFIC ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE was in that report?
Were there dates and times and methods describing how the attack would happen in the "summer of 2001"?
It's not like Bush had Bin Laden on a silver platter ready for assassination, unlike Bill Clinton/Sandy Berger did.
Hugely successful foreign policy by Obama? Hilarious! Howzat "Arab Spring" workin' out?
Bush failed to prevent the 9/11 attacks! Period! I don't buy the sniveling excuses that support that war criminal! Give it up!.
And didn't Bush LET bin Laden escape from Tora Bora? I thought Bush/neocons wanted to keep Bin Laden alive so they could continue the endless war on terror that allowed them to perpetrate the fear mongering that allowed them to attack any oil producing country, pass constitutional violations, combine many govt union jobs in Homelend security and strip their collective bargaining rights & much much more of the neocon agenda!
Can't push that evil agenda if Bin Laden is dead& the "terrorist threat minimized! Isn't that why Bush pulled out of Afghan after the gas pipeline deal was signed?
Arab spring is not Pres Obama policy. How we deal with it is by allowing the people of these countries to choose their own govts.
So you got a problem with that? Speak up! Neocon boy!
Bush received the briefing that Bin Laden was intent on striking inside the US on Aug 6th, 2001 WHILE he was vacationing on his ranch in Texas. 36 days before the attacks occurred. (Obama AND all of the embassies in DANGEROUS areas of the middle east know that the Anniversary of Sept 11 comes every year. Which is why its so odd that an ambassador wasn't inside of a protected embassy or out of the region on that day...why WAS he there, and so unprotected....especially on THAT day?????)
After the attacks, it was discovered that the CIA and the FBI were not coordinating their intell-which is why the report of Aug 6th didn't contain more ominous warnings/details than it did. The Bush administration DID put all law enforcement agencies on alert-but NO ONE even conceived of a "new" form of hijacking in which the airplanes taken would be used as missiles themselves.
"Mr. Bush's anger after Sept. 11 that intelligence gathered on American soil and abroad was not being centrally analyzed and that the agencies were not working well together."
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/16/us/bush-was-warned-bin-laden-wanted-to-hijack-planes.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm
Please provide documentation of Obama's "hugely successful foreign policy".....I'd love to see it.
We killed OBL, and ended Bushes illegal oils war in Iraq. We have prevented any major terrorist attack against the US, We have reduced US military killing from the repub 1 million+ to thousands. We have managed the Arab spring transition from despotic, brutal dictators to govts chosen by the people.
And using planes as weapons was not a new concept. So your weak attempt at excusing, & covering for the incompetent, war criminal republicans is just a reflection of you blind partisanship!
Bush was Pres when the US was attacked on 9/11. He does not get a pass for his failure.
"We have prevented terrorist attacks"...Ok Bush. Nice line.
PS- 10k mercenaries and drones in Iraq isnt ending anything. Unless you really fall head over heals for talking points.
As far as OBL, next time the dollar hits lows like that, and silver is on a high, look for another diversion so that they can raise margin rates on precious metals 4 times in the next FIVE DAYS to supress metals and bring the dollar back up.
Im sure we caught the "global leader in terrorism" and decided to just put a bullet in his head. What a joke. If that was true, it would be the biggest intelligence blunder ever in the history of the CIA.
"intelligence blunder"? what blunder?
So you are saying we haven't prevented terrorist attacks on the homeland? Are do you object because Bush uttered this defense?
You do not believe we've ended the Iraq war 'cause we have troops there? We have troops in 1000 different places! Are we at war with Japan, and Germany? No! You know the difference. Your anti Obama partisanship doesn't allow you to be honest and give him his proper respect & credit.
No credit for killing OBL? Are you suggesting we didn't kill him? Or just that is was a wag the dog distraction from economic problems? Kinda conspiratorial.
Your anti Obama partisanship is transparent.
I dont like Obama, he has completely betrayed the position and our nation. I dont like Bush either, I will always place him as the worst ever, especially with that idiot grin he used to have.
I used to think Clinton was decent, till I started studying this gloablist move in our nation and realized he's just as guilty as the rest. Bush Sr was CIA, so anything he touched should be dubbbed shit (80-92).
Cool. Everyone sucks except your3rd party guy.
Good luck with all your good efforts!
The ones that dont suck, in the D/R scam, get cast out. Its go with the flow or get the fuck out. Its a shame, because those two are destroying the future of our kids. The people havent created their own party in over 100yrs, it shows how complacent we are.
Oh well. Whatayagonnado!
Let me find a corner to crawl into!
Or you could get out and campaign with some new groups/parties, and at least go down fighting.
But, I guess crawling into a D/R corner is always an option too.
If you cant beat em, join em, right?
I fight with many groups.
I have not surrendered my govt to the 2 parties either. I intend to force change through the system while the new sys from the bottom up, horizontally is being developed.
Good luck creating change with your 3rd party. I'm gonna fight to force the pols in power to serve the 99%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
We killed OBL but have not irradiated Al Qaeda.
The fact that there have not been any "major terrorist attacks" does not equate to stopping/thwarting any planned ones.
The Arab spring most likely removed one brand of despotic, brutal dictator and installed another. Let's wait and see how that turns out shall we?
So what exactly IS Obama's foreign policy? So far as I can see, it's give guns to friendlier terrorists to overthrow their government, which they then use against you, Ignore and denigrate our longest and ONLY ally in the Middle East while playing footsee under the table with our ally's enemies, and go to Vegas when your Ambassador's and others are killed by terrorists you continue to say aren't a threat.
"irradiated"? huh? Well we have eliminated many more Al Qaeda leaders than that weakling Bush did! In fact we are in the process of eradicating Al Qaeda! And declaring an END to the war on terror.
No repub would do that because they love using fear and the endless war on terror to push their agenda, of constitutional violations, union busting by combining all fed workers into Homeland sec & removing collective bargaining rigghts and the right to strike, also repubs have misused the war on terror to push vote suppression voter id schemes.
The US foreign policy is to abandon the brutal dictators we have propped up (creating terrorists) and not interfering with the ME peoples govt choices.
That is the RIGHT thing. What do you suggest.? Invade!!!!???? Is that what you want?
"This information must have come across the desk of Obama but I guess he was in campaign mode and was more concerned about writing his speeches."
Its easy to accuse without proof - do you dare wait for the truth ?
They knew about the attack in Libya 48 hours before our Ambassador was murdered. They did nothing to beef up security. In fact, there was no security. The marines that died got involved because they happened to be there, not because they were assigned. There was no security. Steven's diary states that he was afraid of a terrorist attack leading up to the attack. Our state dept did nothing to protect him or our embassy staff. This has all been a coverup to keep Obama propped up before the election.
Another thing never reported since 9/11 was that the crowd was chanting Obama, Obama, we are all Usama. They were retaliating for the killing of bin Laden (which because of the election has become of part of the President's platform-"I killed Osama and saved GM") and retaliating on the anniversary of bin Laden's greatest achievement, 9/11. We have a president who doesn't meet for his daily security briefings, possibly doesn't even read them, leaves all of our embassies in the Middle East with no added security let alone minimal security during the anniversary of our enemies great achievement and the marines at the embassy in Egypt didn't even have live ammo. Why is no one being held accountable for the dereliction of duty of this president's administration to protect and defend those serving overseas and the coverup of events that happened. This is worse than watergate and Iran-Contra. No one was killed in either of those coverups. The administration as recently as this past weekend is still blaming a video that they are using as a scapegoat.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libya-we-gave-us-threeday-warning-of-benghazi-attack-8145242.html http://www.npr.org/2012/09/25/161759775/cnn-defends-reporting-on-slain-ambassadors-diary http://www.businessinsider.com/tunisian-embassy-protesters-chanted-obama-obama-we-are-all-osamas-2012-9 http://www.inquisitr.com/330528/marines-at-us-embassy-in-egypt-were-not-given-live-ammo-usmc-blogs-claim/
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Actually the article is wrong. Ambassador Stevens was NOT being protected by active duty marines when he died. He was being protected by THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
"Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz said that Marines were not posted to the consulate, unlike the embassy in the capital, Tripoli."
"A senior administration official Wednesday called the Benghazi consulate “an interim facility,” which the State Department began using “before the fall of Qadhafi.” It was staffed Tuesday by Libyan and State Department security officers."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81134.html#ixzz28AHWKy92
So tell me, why was a US Ambassador in an unprotected consulate, in one of the most dangerous territories in the Middle East, with only State Department Security on September 11th ???? Especially in light of all the other attacks and hostilities that had occurred there in 2012 prior to Sept 11????
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/02/u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-bombed-twice-in-run-up-to-9-11-anniversary.html
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I deeply apologize-he had "Libyan" security as well. No active Marine protection.
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A lot of those contractors are ex marines.
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I know some contractors like that, and they make about 150k tax free a year, all expenses paid for. Most in the military would love a paycheck like that haha.
The gov is moving to private armies because it saves them face. Like in Iraq, just plug in 10k mercenaries and few drones, and you can say you ended the war/occupation, but you really still have the strength there. The people dont do their homework, so their view of the gov goes up.
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I dont think its so much that as much as it is it makes for better PR, and managing public opinion has always been rule number one in all these "democracies"...
LMAO
http://www.flickr.com/photos/57856066@N02/8049097348/in/photostream
Why was Ambassador Stevens in an unprotected consulate on Sept 11th in light of the following:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81134.html#ixzz28AHWKy92
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/10/02/u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-bombed-twice-in-run-up-to-9-11-anniversary.html
This Administration is so ignorant when it comes how to manage this country that Obama needs to be impeached.
Good luck with that.
His worshippers don't care. They get free phones!
There should of been armed guards protecting our people. Whoever the moron was that said no to that be it Obama or an underling is partly reap. For those deaths.
this was supposed to be a false flag operation, stevens being taken prisoner and obama negotiating his release , just in time for the election. EXCEPT that the muslims didnt get the memo, they raped tortured and murdered stevens.
That's what happened when you make a deal with the devil
Our entire foreign policy is an absolute disaster in the ME, from teh moment we decided we were going to ride in and carve the place up as we saw fit.
Globalists have a hard time minding their own business.
As do extremist.