Forum Post: It is almost over at Zuccotti Park
Posted 12 years ago on Oct. 25, 2011, 12:58 p.m. EST by OccupyDC
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The party may be coming to an end at Zuccotti Park.
There is another meeting tonight of Community Board 1 and the CB is not pleased.
OWS has made promises to the Community Board regarding the drumming that takes place day and night. They promised to drum only two hours a day. That promise has never been kept.
The drumming has continued well into the night and the local residents are fed up.
CB1 is not pleased. Rumor has it that CB1 now realizes that since this is a leaderless movement, no promises made by anyone in the movement will be kept.
Eviction from the park is coming soon.
October 25, 2011
RE: Occupy Wall Street protest in Zuccotti Park WHEREAS: Community Board 1 (CB 1) supports Occupy Wall Street's (OWS) First Amendment right to protest, and WHEREAS: CB 1 supports OWS's First Amendment right to free assembly, and WHEREAS: CB 1 has previously been on record twice as supporting extension of the "millionaire's tax" to offset budget cuts to education, an issue that has also been raised by many in OWS, and WHEREAS: CB 1 opposes the use of excessive and unnecessary force by the City of New York and/or Brookfield Office Properties to address this situation, and WHEREAS: CB 1 believes that preserving Constitutional rights and also proactively addressing the increasing frustration among many local residents and small businesses regarding health, public safety, noise, sanitation and other community concerns are in no way mutually exclusive, and indeed both can be accomplished, and WHEREAS: CB1 is concerned that the magnitude of the situation at Zuccotti Park is not being fully documented because calls to 311 have been turned away on the grounds that the NYPD is already aware of the situation; now
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT: CB 1 calls on OWS, the City of New York, all elected officials representing Lower Manhattan and all major stakeholders to come together to address the following issues which are adversely affecting quality of life in this community:
1) Limit use of drums, trumpets, tambourines, bugles, air horns, shouting and chanting, and all other sources of noise to two hours per day, in midday. 2) Arrange access to bathrooms off-site, and eliminate use of retail shops and residential building doorways as bathroom facilities. 3) Enforce previously declared commitments by OWS to adopt all of the provisions of the Good Neighbor Policy (attached) that have been previously agreed to in eight prior meetings with OWS over the past four weeks. 4) Work with local small businesses to address economic impacts. 5) CB 1 requests a meeting with NYPD as soon as possible to discuss the necessity for extensive deployment of pedestrian barricades in the central Financial District, and the removal of all except those deemed absolutely necessary for security and public safety. 6) CB1 urges the NYC Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications to establish a consistent policy of accepting, recording, tracking and referring to the appropriate city agencies all 311 calls regarding disturbances in and around Zuccotti Park.
I think it's important for the movement to shift its focus on this drumming topic. Clearly, it's a weak spot in the struggle to keep the public protests going and I do feel Occupy has some obligation to do its best from within to try and resolve the problem. BUT... it needs to be remembered and reminded to the general public that it's not on Occupy to fix all the social ills of the whole world. Occupy isn't a political party looking to sweep the next election. The main point of Occupy is to shine a spotlight on bad policy and practice and point for a need for it to be fixed. This drumming issue --no matter what side of it you're on within the movement-- is a lot of loud noise in OUR direction and that is the opposite of where it needs to go. Some kind of statement to the world is needed to the effect of: "okay, so we're having a bit of a tangle... shit happens and people are people... we're working on how to best resolve it. What are our paid elected officials doing to fix the problem going on in their domain? That's where you need to pay attention."
http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/18/8384897-one-marine-rewrites-police-brutality
IF YOU KNOW MARINE SGT SHAMAR THOMAS - maybe he can convince the drummers
The party is just beginning. The sky is not falling.
Just more evidence that this things to turn into a real organization with some form of leadership, or it will just meander on aimlessly until id fizzles out. This concept of a formless, leaderless, movement is a nice concept, but it doesn't work.
Liberty Park
it breaks my heart that these damn back door leaders let this happen
Son't call it Zuccotti Park call it liberty park
It was renamed Zuccotti Park in 2006.
I know when it was sold ... exactly ... reclaim it for the people
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I think we saw the people take it back ...
Great. Another opportunity to say it again:
Noise pollution, from drumming to rap to rock to folk to opera, is the province of assholes. Do your thing without space-invading. Contribute without co-opting.
Drumming by slaves in the Caribbean was a means of powerful communication--so powerful, it was banned in the states.
Unwanted drumming pushed on your own community is just juvenile bullshit, non-communication, self-righteous arrogance, sad manifestation of hostile socialization, or maybe (gee, could it be?) yet another form of covert disruption.
If you rhythm revolutionaries are so hip, follow that great suggestion to drum around the city and communicate, powerfully, the message of Occupy. Take your Pulse, then take it to the streets and parks. Carry #OWS banners, whatever, uptown and to the boroughs.
I've lived in NYC too long to be as cool as the occupants of Liberty Square in their approach to this. I'd argue, "Don't take too much shit from 'friends and supporters'." Public space ain't public when a few push out the many.
Bless you, Occupiers, for your grand experiment and steadfast occupation.
It would unfortunate if the drumming would lead to the end of OWS at Zucotti Park. Being respectful goes both ways: our right to be there and the surrounding community to live in peace in their own homes.
This is like when the first colonists made agreements with the Native Americans not realizing that there were different tribes and got upset that their agreement with one tribe wasn't honored by the other tribes.
It's a big problem. I guess they'll have to vote in the GA to kick these people out. Will they stay if the entire camp is against them?
Community Board unanimously backed OWS.
Noise is always an invitation for eviction. Can someone talk with the drummers and make them realize this?
The drummers have already been spoken to. They don't seem to care.
OWS made promises at the last Community Board meeting and those promises were not kept.
The end is near for the occupation at Zuccotti Park. When the hammer eventually comes down, I don't know.
Seeing that a few tents have been erected (violating park rules) and covered with tarps, the end may be near.
Have you emailed this to them? They may not be reading all of the comments here. I've had to email them several times on huge problems because they weren't monitoring the blog and I was the only one out there paying attention.
They know what's going on. People from OWS have been to all the recent CB1 meetings.
The entire park is also aware of the situation with the drumming.
So how can this be allowed to get so out of hand that it closes the entire place down? Do these drummers not understand or just don't care? Are they so high that they don't understand what you're saying?
I don't know.
The GA voted to allow only two hours of drumming per day. The drummers ignored it and did what they wanted.
In recent days, there has been drumming going on to as late as 10:30 at night.
The local residents are pissed off.
Shit. And he is right. (Below) If they can't solve the problem of renegade drummers, we've got a problem here bigger than drummers.
Who cares ... These people in CB1 don't care about any of us ... They would not care if they took your last dollar and you starved to death... Screw them they can go to there house in the Hamptons if it bothers them that much
You are wrong.
CB1 has been supportive of the OWS protesters. That may be coming to an end.
People with your attitude are bringing about that end.
Are you from DC ? Do you know how much those apt's cost around there most of those people have multiple homes. They are only supportive to a point ... My attitude Is pissed off like most of the protesters ... What are you some rich kid trust fund baby you sound like a square witch DC had alot of ... Follow the rules like a good citizen. Why don't you go shop and support the economy
I am here in NYC.
And yes, I do follow the rules of society. Unlike the "occupy" people who have a disregard for the rules and other people in general.
Good for you ... You are a good citizen ... Go to work and go shop there is no need for you to waste your time on this forum ... Nothing to see here just a bunch of hoodlum rule breakers ... Go shop support the economy like a good citizen
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Yes it is I m pretty pissed off at the situation and it is going to get much worse for all of us.
I never asked for a hand out i take care of my family but it is getting harder "andrescepeda50 " you are a asshole like a baby huh look around we have a police state ... unemployment and poverty in america is growing ...
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This will be an interesting test. If OWS cannot solve the problem of the drummers, one would be wise to not hold much hope for their ability to solve the problem of the bankers.
Kick their ass. It's a real wonder nobody has done that already, resident or protestor.
Fuck CB 1 if they live there they are the 1%
good riddance
Smallpox blankets, get yer smallpox blankets here!
As a Native American this comment is very racist & offensive.
Not nearly as offensive as what the US Government actually did, and has shown itself capable of doing. Damn right it is racist and offensive.
ha ha ha ha