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Forum Post: Instead of killing the GOP, OWS decided on suicide, damn shame.

Posted 2 weeks ago on July 13, 2014, 5:58 a.m. EST by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ
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Is there anyone on here that wants to give it a shot to explain how in the real world voting for anybody other than the person that can keep the GOP from winning makes any sense at all.

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[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 2 weeks ago

In the big picture Obama is just as bad as Bush was. Some would say worse. So, why should I give a hoot who wins if either party is going to be just as corrupt as the other; i.e. boot licking to the 1%.

If the Demcrats want to win, they need to field some for real for the people candidates. Otherwise I'm just not going to bother dragging my ass out of bed to the voting booth.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

why indeed, why even get out of bed in the morning? really what is the point? people live they die, if they are poor they die sooner, nothing will change that, you make a good point why brother at all?

I just said this to Matt but it works as well here i see your point, all is lost

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (188) 2 weeks ago

why should I give them anything ?

they're just talking heads like the rest of us

encrusted in a 300 year old government contract

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

why indeed, why even get out of bed in the morning? really what is the point? people live they die, if they are poor they die sooner, nothing will change that, you make a good point why brother at all?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (188) 3 days ago

without jobs, we are not idle

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 12 hours ago

still many do take jobs, which pay far less when Republicans set public policy, some would like for jobs to pay more, people who feel that way would do well to spend some time opposing the election of the GOP

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (188) 6 hours ago

so do democrats but they do nothing

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[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1130) 2 weeks ago

Chances are the handful of people in Phoenix that were part of OP are still active and doing things in your community, because thats what they believe in.

You believe in getting more Democrats in office. What have you done in terms of helping that goal in Phoenix the past 2.5 years?

You can have that as your goal, just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 12 hours ago

Let me restate this again for like the 100th time I CARE ABOUT KILLING THE GOP before it kills America

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1130) 1 hour ago

I suggest you go to

2910 N Central Ave Phoenix, AZ 85012

and get going on the campaign trail then, and stop worrying about occupy. Nice thing about campaigning for the big two: I you have the slightest shred of organizing skills, you can usually get a paid position, and there's more than enough people looking for favors in return for donations, thus making fundraising much easier.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

I read what you said didn't answer the question, how does it help anyone to let the GOP win?

Here I thought OWS was started by people who did want to bash people for doing the wrong thing, like helping the GOP win or bankers steal.

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[-] 0 points by flip (6445) 2 weeks ago

turbocharger is right on here - nobody is trying to talk you out of voting democrat. you seem to think you have the "truth." big news here you do not. so "just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing." i would add - even if you are! now i answered your question about the gop winning long ago and you completely fanned on my point. choosing to go on your usual misdirection answer. you focused on the fact that i pointed out that things got so bad in this extremely racist country that a black man won the presidency. i assumed you did it on purpose but now i am not so sure. so here it is one more time. first we have to agree that nobody knows the future - not you or me. that means nobody can say for sure what the right path is. second and i hope for the last time i will say that the dems are generally better than the gop and i voted for the shit stain in the whitehouse in the last election (yes i think he is disgusting - very nice and half bright and well spoken but killing people all around the world and i am tired of my government doing that. 64 years i have watched them do it in my name). ok having said that it is possible that things have to get really bad before the people of this country demand change. seems to me that after 8 years of bush and a huge financial crisis the country was ready for real change. maybe they learned a lesson in 2008 - maybe?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

flip your comment is as jumbled as your logic, you have never explained why you prefer the GOP write public policy or why you think that W Bush did such a great job that you would want to help his brother win the White House, but feel free go ahead anytime you like...

but yes I think those that help the GOP win are killing this country and are WRONG!! they are scum each and every one who help elect Bush and all GOP scum

[-] 3 points by flip (6445) 4 days ago

you really cannot be this stupid - can you?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

again you wish to distract the reader from your constant support of the GOP, and call those that see the truth of you stupid, can you read? have you read the crap you wrote above? how does any of it make sense? you are a die hard supported of the GOP and their make the rich richer crap first start to finish!

[-] 2 points by flip (6445) 4 days ago

not surprised that you cannot make sense of it. i used you think you were a paid op but now it is pretty clear who you are - i will try to be nicer in the future. better yet i think i will ignore you until you dispute facts - that will take a while i realize - usually males have to go through puberty before they can think rationally

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 1 day ago

oh the fun would be in seeing you make sense of it, the FACT is it makes no sense at all,

I don't think you're anything but a deluded idiot used by the 1% to keep OWS away from doing anything to upset their power

[-] 5 points by flip (6445) 1 day ago

careful now spanky. your masters have been unmasked and you could be in danger of a name change. i understand you had trouble deciphering this but try again - "turbocharger is right on here - nobody is trying to talk you out of voting democrat. you seem to think you have the "truth." big news here you do not. so "just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing." i would add - even if you are!" - not that hard to follow if you try. and keep in mind that discussions should be more coherent now - i hope - don't you?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 10 hours ago

Your Masters have been well known for a long time we call them the 1% around here, it is you that need fear clear discussion, I have always been quite clear in my intent to KILL the GOP

[-] 2 points by flip (6445) 10 hours ago

great - kill the gop and we will have only one ruling class party - then what?

[-] -1 points by turbocharger (1130) 2 weeks ago

It doesn't. Just like it doesnt help to let Democrats win.

Next.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 4 days ago

So your solution is to stop voting and return to Monarchy? I disagree I think we can do better than just giving up.

[-] 0 points by grapes (2742) 2 weeks ago

GOP was the Party of the Great Liberator. It makes eminent sense to vote for anyone to allow the GOP candidate to win if the GOP candidate be the New Lincoln.

Voting provides an endpoint (such as a graveyard or orgasm) for social movements. Once it is over, it is over. Ask my former "WTF. I fuk'ed my brain out." buddy or anybody else who knows about the difficulty of the Second Coming (of Christ on Earth - it has already been two millennia). Persistent tension is required to effect glacial social changes, not an election or two.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6455) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

I see what you're saying it was just an election that gave us W Bush who gave us the Iraq War and CU I guess things like that are not a big deal to people like you, so for people like you elections don't matter much.