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Forum Post: Instead of killing the GOP, OWS decided on suicide, damn shame.

Posted 1 month ago on July 13, 2014, 5:58 a.m. EST by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ
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Is there anyone on here that wants to give it a shot to explain how in the real world voting for anybody other than the person that can keep the GOP from winning makes any sense at all.

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[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 1 month ago

In the big picture Obama is just as bad as Bush was. Some would say worse. So, why should I give a hoot who wins if either party is going to be just as corrupt as the other; i.e. boot licking to the 1%.

If the Demcrats want to win, they need to field some for real for the people candidates. Otherwise I'm just not going to bother dragging my ass out of bed to the voting booth.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

why indeed, why even get out of bed in the morning? really what is the point? people live they die, if they are poor they die sooner, nothing will change that, you make a good point why brother at all?

I just said this to Matt but it works as well here i see your point, all is lost

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (863) 1 month ago

why should I give them anything ?

they're just talking heads like the rest of us

encrusted in a 300 year old government contract

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

why indeed, why even get out of bed in the morning? really what is the point? people live they die, if they are poor they die sooner, nothing will change that, you make a good point why brother at all?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (863) 1 month ago

without jobs, we are not idle

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

still many do take jobs, which pay far less when Republicans set public policy, some would like for jobs to pay more, people who feel that way would do well to spend some time opposing the election of the GOP

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (863) 4 weeks ago

so do democrats but they do nothing

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

if they do nothing but keep a Republican from holding the seat, then that is something, of course as long as they must go hat in hand to the rich for money to run little real action can happen, we had public funding here in AZ but the Robert's Court gutted it, but no one ever talks about that outrageous ruling.

People want democracy and then expect Monarchy. If you want to take the government back from the rich folks that own it then you have to be willing to at least make the statement that if you support tax cuts then you don't get elected, but right now we are still electing people that work to make the rich richer.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (863) 3 weeks ago

there ought to be greater motivation than money

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

public funding for public elections, but the rich will not give up their place of power willingly

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (863) 3 weeks ago

I'll just lay down and die

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

everyone dies

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1225) 1 month ago

Chances are the handful of people in Phoenix that were part of OP are still active and doing things in your community, because thats what they believe in.

You believe in getting more Democrats in office. What have you done in terms of helping that goal in Phoenix the past 2.5 years?

You can have that as your goal, just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

Let me restate this again for like the 100th time I CARE ABOUT KILLING THE GOP before it kills America

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1225) 4 weeks ago

I suggest you go to

2910 N Central Ave Phoenix, AZ 85012

and get going on the campaign trail then, and stop worrying about occupy. Nice thing about campaigning for the big two: I you have the slightest shred of organizing skills, you can usually get a paid position, and there's more than enough people looking for favors in return for donations, thus making fundraising much easier.

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

So you been on the site a couple of months and yet you are already the High Holy OWS rules Holder? deciding what is and is not occupy? why don't you get your power seeking, self loving, ego driven, ass back to the Green Party Headquarters you political hack.

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1225) 3 weeks ago

Well judging from that response you certainly won't be doing what was mentioned I guess....

Listen, I'm just saying that if you think removing Republicans from all offices is the first step, then you should probably be doing something that makes that happen, right?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

I am.

[-] 2 points by flip (6915) 3 weeks ago

no you are not - not here anyway

[-] -1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

even if I do nothing more than mute your constant praise of GOP it is enough

[-] 2 points by flip (6915) 2 weeks ago

criticizing the government - past or present is not the same as praising the gop - i know it is in your mind but to most people it is not. you should work on that problem of yours

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

may not be the same in all cases but the way you do it, it is indeed a support of the GOP, you ARE a GOP supporter there are many in the country, no need to be ashamed of who you are, why do you try to hide it so?

nor do you ever have a word to say about inequality you are pure GOP Troll.

You never criticize the GOP Speaker of the House or any GOP gov, or any GOP office holder ever, (Why??) because You ARE a GOP supporter.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

I read what you said didn't answer the question, how does it help anyone to let the GOP win?

Here I thought OWS was started by people who did want to bash people for doing the wrong thing, like helping the GOP win or bankers steal.

[-] 1 points by flip (6915) 1 month ago

turbocharger is right on here - nobody is trying to talk you out of voting democrat. you seem to think you have the "truth." big news here you do not. so "just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing." i would add - even if you are! now i answered your question about the gop winning long ago and you completely fanned on my point. choosing to go on your usual misdirection answer. you focused on the fact that i pointed out that things got so bad in this extremely racist country that a black man won the presidency. i assumed you did it on purpose but now i am not so sure. so here it is one more time. first we have to agree that nobody knows the future - not you or me. that means nobody can say for sure what the right path is. second and i hope for the last time i will say that the dems are generally better than the gop and i voted for the shit stain in the whitehouse in the last election (yes i think he is disgusting - very nice and half bright and well spoken but killing people all around the world and i am tired of my government doing that. 64 years i have watched them do it in my name). ok having said that it is possible that things have to get really bad before the people of this country demand change. seems to me that after 8 years of bush and a huge financial crisis the country was ready for real change. maybe they learned a lesson in 2008 - maybe?

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

flip your comment is as jumbled as your logic, you have never explained why you prefer the GOP write public policy or why you think that W Bush did such a great job that you would want to help his brother win the White House, but feel free go ahead anytime you like...

but yes I think those that help the GOP win are killing this country and are WRONG!! they are scum each and every one who help elect Bush and all GOP scum

[-] 4 points by flip (6915) 1 month ago

you really cannot be this stupid - can you?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

again you wish to distract the reader from your constant support of the GOP, and call those that see the truth of you stupid, can you read? have you read the crap you wrote above? how does any of it make sense? you are a die hard supported of the GOP and their make the rich richer crap first start to finish!

[-] 2 points by flip (6915) 1 month ago

not surprised that you cannot make sense of it. i used you think you were a paid op but now it is pretty clear who you are - i will try to be nicer in the future. better yet i think i will ignore you until you dispute facts - that will take a while i realize - usually males have to go through puberty before they can think rationally

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

oh the fun would be in seeing you make sense of it, the FACT is it makes no sense at all,

I don't think you're anything but a deluded idiot used by the 1% to keep OWS away from doing anything to upset their power

[-] 5 points by flip (6915) 4 weeks ago

careful now spanky. your masters have been unmasked and you could be in danger of a name change. i understand you had trouble deciphering this but try again - "turbocharger is right on here - nobody is trying to talk you out of voting democrat. you seem to think you have the "truth." big news here you do not. so "just dont bash other people for not doing what you think is the right goal, if you yourself do nothing." i would add - even if you are!" - not that hard to follow if you try. and keep in mind that discussions should be more coherent now - i hope - don't you?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

Your Masters have been well known for a long time we call them the 1% around here, it is you that need fear clear discussion, I have always been quite clear in my intent to KILL the GOP

[-] 1 points by flip (6915) 4 weeks ago

great - kill the gop and we will have only one ruling class party - then what?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

Foolish troll do you know nothing of history? once the GOP is dead another party will arise, this one a people's party but to do so at a time when it would only empower the GOP is stupid and exactly how W was elected in the first place.

[-] 1 points by flip (6915) 3 weeks ago

so you know the future- must be a nice skill to have. sadly your thinking that you can know the future only proves that you are a fool or a child - or both!

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 3 weeks ago

I know something of history as well, I know how those like you put W Bush in the White House.

[-] 0 points by flip (6915) 3 weeks ago

you do realize that your response implies that you do think that you know the future - that pretty much ensures that everyone here with a brain now is sure you are not to be believed. i would advise that you rephrase your answer to me - say that you realize that nobody knows what the future may bring - you could also say you know history even though it is pretty clear that you have had an elite mainstream education so you have a ruling class version of history - which in case you don't realize, means that here now on this website for radicals you are at a severe disadvantage

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

this comment really revels how small your mind is.....

[-] 0 points by turbocharger (1225) 1 month ago

It doesn't. Just like it doesnt help to let Democrats win.

Next.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

So your solution is to stop voting and return to Monarchy? I disagree I think we can do better than just giving up.

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[-] 1 points by grapes (2877) 1 month ago

GOP was the Party of the Great Liberator. It makes eminent sense to vote for anyone to allow the GOP candidate to win if the GOP candidate be the New Lincoln.

Voting provides an endpoint (such as a graveyard or orgasm) for social movements. Once it is over, it is over. Ask my former "WTF. I fuk'ed my brain out." buddy or anybody else who knows about the difficulty of the Second Coming (of Christ on Earth - it has already been two millennia). Persistent tension is required to effect glacial social changes, not an election or two.

[-] 2 points by factsrfun (6828) from Phoenix, AZ 1 month ago

I see what you're saying it was just an election that gave us W Bush who gave us the Iraq War and CU I guess things like that are not a big deal to people like you, so for people like you elections don't matter much.

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