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Forum Post: Individualism, Creative Ideas and the Right to be Left Alone

Posted 3 years ago on Nov. 21, 2011, 3:42 p.m. EST by Billsdestro (0)
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Globalism is pressing on your neck. The singularity is truly near as we smell the stench of the geo-collectivist communist empire approaching from all sides. Don’t worry; the “government” will take you with them to heaven. They really do love your smiling faces… Unfortunately there are just too many to count…..Fall into line little sheep, it’s dinner time and the wolves await fresh company. WAKE UP!!

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[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Too many to count....exactly.

[-] 1 points by RobertHod (1) 1 year ago

Big bad wolf? Or, something more sophisticated using the image?

http://i41.tinypic.com/21lpddz.gif

Do you know the truth of the past? What does the flock run from? What do they run towards? Can they see? Can the ones falling cry a warning?

What makes sheep so confused no matter what?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

geo-collectivist communist empire? What are you smoking?

Smell the coffee.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Communist what?

A collective is as far removed from communism as you can possibly get.

What are you smoking? Can you send me some?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Although collectivism is quite a ways off from egalitarianism and/or free government.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's a step in the right direction, compared to dictatorial oligarchy.

Would you agree?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

I think in many ways they are one in the same. Both deny people the right to think for themselves. Both seek to please the needs and or wants of a group as oppoped to the individual.

People need to learn to recognize the individual as the fundemental political entity and not the group.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Which takes you back to a one-vote-one-value system, which is how we ended up with the mess we have now.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

The problem is representaive government. The voting sytstem is just a by-product, not the problem itself.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Can you elaborate upon that?

What do you consider to be the problem with representative government?

That they don't represent the people, but rather their corporate sponsors?

I do agree, but I seek your clarification of your position on the matter.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

First, it is in reality ony possible for a person to represent themselves.

It is possible to consent for someone else to represent you in any matter, but in the case of our elected officials, everyone who did not vote for the electee is not being represented in government.

Second, our representatives do often listen to lobbyists before thier constituents. Even more often they listen to themselves before thier constiuents.

Representative government is obsolete and ineffective. We live in the 21st century. Direct government is now possible and desirable.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's more than possibe and desirable.

It's going to be essential if we want to continue the way we hope to in this world.

The one percenters have identified themselves as public enemy number one.

How that plays out, particularly in light of the employment of mercenary forces, will be interesting, to say the least.

No wonder there's a push to take weapons off everyone but the mercs.

[-] 2 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Exactly, but it has little to nothing to do with the economy or the functions of the economy.

This has nothing to do with income inequality or socialism or capitalism.

Money is a problem that eventually needs to be solved.

Direct government in a perfect world would be 100% independent of the economy in everyway.

The focus should shift away from the functions of the economy to the functions of government.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Nice sentiment.

What are you proposing on a practical level?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

A Common Law Republic.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Specifically what will change?

How will the current status quo be altered, without the control phreaks taking action that would result in a popular uprising, that would be beat down with truncheons and mace, like earlier protests by #ows.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

No more presidents, no more representatives, no more military, no more borders, no more affirmative action, no more restrictions on any human being participating in public business if they choose to do so.

Mass protest would also cease.

[-] 0 points by bigjoe (-117) 1 year ago

WTF are you talking about.

[-] -1 points by DeathsHead1 (-111) 1 year ago

I agree with you. But you are pissing in the wind to anyone else here.