Forum Post: i'm done supporting OWS
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 18, 2011, 9:36 p.m. EST by occupyajobplz
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from North Arlington, NJ
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this movement has lost all the potential it once started with. no longer are we about hope and change, instead it's become an excuse to squat in parks and spout meme's at each other until the police arrest everyone and we go home.
seriously, this has gotten pathetic. goodnight guys, better wait for the next people's movement.
Interesting- no one believes you were ever a part of OWS.
You are posting , in a vain attempt to stop this great movement for human freedom. people all over this planet have rose up, and are fighting the forces of oppression, together. http://tinyurl.com/6lkzgbk
Hear, hear!
correction: you can't comprehend that someone might realize that OWS has become a joke. everyone else, including people who have actually protested (unlike you) are tired of what it's become.
keep living the delusion. i have to go back to work.
no when you leave here- then you are off from work. rest up - look forward to seeing you here tomorrow- lol
it's spelled "know". my advice is to find a job that doesn't involve reading.
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You never supported us anyway goon.
Then you won't mind if I post this.
The ugly truth. America's wealth is STILL being concentrated. When the rich get too rich, the poor get poorer. These latest figures prove it. AGAIN.
According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 98 percent of Americans, saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.
The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion. In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009.
Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.
Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. In 1928, the rich were already way ahead. Still, they were given huge tax breaks. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated 44 percent of all United States wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the lower majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed.
Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a public works program, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, some US wealth was gradually transferred back down to the majority. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. By 1976, the richest 1 percent held less than 20 percent. The lower majority held the rest. And rightfully so. It was the best year ever for the middle and lower classes. This was the recovery. A partial redistribution of wealth.
Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own over 40 percent of all US wealth. The upper, middle, and lower classes are sharing the rest. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause. If there is no redistribution, there will be no recovery.
Note: A knowledgable and trustworthy contributor has gone on record with a claim that effective tax rates for the rich were considerably lower than book rates during the years of redistribution that I have made reference to. His point was that the rich were able to avoid those very high marginal rates of 70-90% under the condition that they invested specifically in American jobs. His claim is that effective rates for the rich probably never exceeded 39% and certainly never exceeded 45%. My belief is that if true, those effective rates for the rich were still considerably higher than previous lows of '29'. Also that such policies still would have contributed to a partial redistribution by forcing the rich to either share profits and potential income through mass job creation or share income through very high marginal tax rates. This knowledgable contributor and I agree that there was in effect, a redistribution but disagree on the use of the word.
One thing is clear from recent events. The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. Book rates for the rich remain at all time lows. Their corporate golden geese are heavily subsidized. The benefits of corporate welfare are paid almost exclusively to the rich. Our Federal, State, and local leaders are sold out. Most of whom, are rich and trying to get even richer at our expense. They won't do anything about the obscene concentration of wealth. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.
For the good of society, stop giving so much of your money to rich people. Stop concentrating the wealth. This may be our last chance to prevent the worst economic depression in world history. No redistribution. No recovery.
Those of you who agree on these major issues are welcome to summarize this post, copy it, use any portion, link to it, save it, show a friend, or spread the word in any fashion. Most major cities have daily call-in talk radio shows. You can reach thousands of people at once. They should know the ugly truth. Be sure to quote the figures which prove that America's wealth is still being concentrated. I don't care who takes the credit. We are up against a tiny but very powerful minority who have more influence on the masses than any other group in history. They have the means to reach millions at once with outrageous political and commercial propaganda. Those of us who speak the ugly truth must work incredibly hard just to be heard.
After 4 days on the forum... you sure don't have much in terms of staying power.
Please come back when you are a little more serious about making lasting social change.
Don't let the virtual door hit you in the ass
There is always hope. All you have to do is open your eyes and look. I hope you do before you leave. :)
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-great-satan/
The Revolution starts here!
I noticed you used the word meme.
The word 'meme' is a shortening (modeled on 'gene') of 'mimeme' (from Ancient Greek μίμημα Greek pronunciation: [míːmɛːma] mīmēma, "something imitated", from μιμεῖσθαι mimeisthai, "to imitate", from μῖμος mimos "mime")[4] and it was coined by the British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1][5] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. Examples of memes given in the book included melodies, catch-phrases, fashion and the technology of building arches.[6]
"better wait for the next people's movement."
...or do something about how you feel.
Judging by your username, You have never supported OWS so your phony "sniffI'm done supporting you!" day time tv melodrama has little effect on anyone here. We see right through you.
Its also filled with pathetic Jew haters.
the anti-semitism is disgusting honestly.
Tell me about it and the saddest part is this site allows it. They DO NOT allow people to do the same thing though to any other race or ethnic group. Tells you all you need to know about what the so called non-leadership is all about. It's turned me off to the whole Occupy thing.
This is a result of Christian conservatism and Libertarianism bullying its way into everyone's lives.
"Christian Patriotism is the result of the confluence of the far- right tax resistance movement, regressive Populism, and Identity doctrine. The Christian Patriot branch of white supremacy traces its explosive growth back to the rise of William Potter Gale's Posse Comitatus, a virulently anti-Semitic paramilitary movement which began operating publicly in 1968. Founded on the principle of all-out resistance to federal authority -- which has marked all white supremacy since the rise of the Ku Klux Klan at the end of the Civil War -- the Posse carries the notion of anti-federalism to new extremes.
Most racist politics has its legal and philosophical roots in the "property rights" and "states rights" clauses in the Constitution. These sections of the Constitution were a compromise necessary to enlist the cooperation of the slave-holding states in replacing the unworkable Articles of Confederation with the federal Constitution. The exaltation of the rights of property over the rights of people is a common denominator of the entire right wing of American politics. "
http://www.albionmonitor.com/freemen/ci-roots.html
Actually the site above explains 90% of ALL trolls on here.
Yeah thats why they are constantly reaching out to the jewish community and openly condemning anyone that bashes jews out there. But just keep sticking to your biased extremist sources for "news" tool.
If that's the case then why are you allowing this sickening shit to be published here, when you censor anyone from doing the same to Blacks and other groups? Some reach out.
I'm not the mod. All I can do is constantly speak out against it. You are bitching at the wrong people.
And this is the guy coordinating internet stuff for ows ny general council http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/04/theodore-shulman-arrested-indictment-death-threats
I hope the other trolls will make the same decision.
DITTO!!!
no trolls here. only truth and facts. educate yourself.
DROLL
ME too
No, it has become a rob from the rich to give to the poor thing. Unacceptable to me now as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
I can understand your points, as i feel they aren't accomplishing anything.
I posted a thread on the subject. http://occupywallst.org/forum/lets-plan-on-how-were-going-to-get-real-results/
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The movement got co-opted by the liberals with post Obama vote guilt. And the antisemitism , antizionism is running rampant here (not really shocking) There are a handful of folks here that really do understand some of the problems and want change. There is a large majority of sheeple here however that are begging to be on the gov't tit for life. Basically willing to become slaves to the gov't