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Forum Post: I Hate Both Liars and Fools

Posted 1 year ago on May 29, 2013, 1:13 p.m. EST by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT
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Here is the statement:

[-] 1 points by Whetherman1968 (8) 1 minute ago

Witness fracking drilling, saving America.

You Lose.

↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink

And here is the re4Lity:

Trashy Macaque


Trashy Macaque


!Trashy Macaque!

You little Pink.Pantied Penis.Poser YOu . . .



Read the Rules
[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

16 comments, 16 attacks.

Great job as usual gang.

Is it recess yet?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Fuck you.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Hey look!

From one of your sources.

Can you say the Koch's are libe(R)tarians?

Counterpunch can. It's just you who has a problem with that simple truth.


I guess it's always recess for you?

[-] -2 points by DrMurdochBrown (-3) 1 year ago

Nope, I don't care for Koch and friends. Sorry.

Do you ever do anything but attack other users on this forum? Seriously.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

I'm waiting.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Actually, I just attack you....................LOL

I thought you'd never notice.

On the other hand, if you actually looked and followed links, I've provided a plethora of information on myriad issues.

Unlike yourself, if yourself is who yourself claims itself to be, and that's highly doubtable at this juncture.

If so? You're someone who actually does....just attack something or other, usually without any truth.

Not that there was any actual info in your response, just thinly veiled attempts at derision.

Derision YOU deserve, if you are who you claim to be.........doubtable.

So.........this would be the perfect chance for you to provide ADDED information of the actions of the aforementioned Koch brothers, instead of offering a generic.............oh those guys really suck.

I do, at this point STRESS, ADDED information.

Anything else would be disengenuos.

[-] -3 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

You attacked gnommuny yesterday, today you attacked Whetherman1968, everyday you attack a new user. If someone disagrees with you, you attack them and call them a right wing shill. You're the absolute opposite of what is needed to build communities, groups, to encourage sharing, debate, and general betterment of logical thinking.

Why don't you reply to one of my posts on anarchy in the fashion of a grown up adult able to converse in respectable and intelligent fashion, instead of wasting your time like a 6 year old child?


I'm done playing your childish games. You're the biggest troll on this forum.

Maybe you should read the front page of this forum. "Occupy Wall Street is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions."

Most people agree right wingers and republicans are far from our ideologies in general, but OWS respects everyone. Recent surveys show that 5% of OWS supporters are right wingers. You shouldn't attack any one of our demographics. What you should do is engage in proper debating. Attacking people simply because they have a political persuasion that differs from yours is not in the Occupy tradition, and only creates riffs in our movement. But, of course, you're not here for Occupy. You're here to push Obama and his friends, and that's exactly why you're so obsessed with calling every one who disagrees with you a right winger. You're only interested in increasing the divide between left and right, not in bringing people together for Occupy. Shame on you.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Excuse me?

Who are you?

It was Mr. Munny who called me a dumb ass, and I reacted. I guess you ignored that, or you would have set your bots and puppets loose on him instead.

Playing with puppets and BOTS is and always has been script kiddie behavior.

You're continued lies, are just that.........lies.

Go ahead and prove your accusation.

You can't.

You should go now. You bring nothing of value to the table.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

I presume that based on the name - twinkleshoes - he/she/it is phishing for some sort of homophobia, the perception of which is precisely what set Trashy Macaque off on a mailbomb campaign over a year ago.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago


Script kiddie behavior.

Hasn't it and all those gun nutters chased enough people away yet?

I've heard rumor of a PM campaign too.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Me and GF both got our mailboxes bombed with an endless series of meaningless bullshit from over 30 different bots. With each one providing a notification that will not go away until it's been answered, it pretty much makes the whole forum inaccessible in any meaningful way.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

I know what he did.

In wave after wave of his script kiddie behavior......good posters abandoned the forum.

This is all we have left.

It's why I never let up on his lies.

I asked him politely to apologize, numerous times.

He refused.

He is proud of himself.

The egotistical jerk.


[-] 0 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

Report the issue to jart, or the moderators. It wasn't me this time. I don't use bots anymore. Jart should be able to fix this for you.

[-] -2 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

No, nothing to do with homophobia zen. I have nothing against gays, most of my friends are gay. I find US hopelessly retarded in its slowness to accept gay marriage. Most advanced countries already do. What are you guys waiting for? More science to discredit Young Earth Creationists, people who have been discredited by everyone in the world except Americans? I'm sorry, but social standards in US are equivalent to those of cavemen. Get with the times? God, you're one of the richest countries in the world and you don't offer free health care to your citizens? What's up? Well, richest economically, not intellectually. There lies the problem.

It's your interpretation that is flawed. The word "twinkle" refers to the Twinkle Team, which shooz is part of. One of the things the Twinkle Team does is twinkle each others' comments.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago


Passing conspiracy theory??

Imagine that.

In fact......that term is one of the insults I personally heard "straight" kids hurl at Gays when I was in grade school.

You really should stop all your habitual lying.

It's just lies......And it's insulting.........and your attempts to legitimize it, is even more insulting.


[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Trashy Macaque you silly monkey - you are phishing - looking for any excuse to pull out your toys of uber harassment, as if retribution formed some sort of vindication . . .

[-] 0 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

No, your post is phishing. Why don't you do something worthwhile with your time and reply to my post which is serious, and not based on lies like yours:


[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

why? because generally I don't like you. And I don't like your habit of rolling out an endless series of bots. while it may prove useful under certain limited conditions, by and large I find it contrary to any meaningful discussion.

[-] -1 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

I used bots to kill anti-jew conspiracy theories almost two years ago. I didn't use them since. Get your facts straight. If you don't care about anarchy, that's fine. Don't bother me about ALEC, and other right wing issues. That is not my interest. As far as I'm concerned, there is no good politician from any party in America. The system is broken beyond repair, and breaks and corrupts any politician from any party trying to play that game.

If you want to resolve bot attacks against your account, the best bet is to notify jart or the moderators ASAP.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

You still use puppets to this very day.

Puppets, that although not automated can do the some of the same things.

Plus you're a liar.

You should just go now.

You have nOTHING to add.

I have demonstrated how libe(R)tariansim is Amirica's and the Worlds biggest issue. An Ayn Rand philosophy that's being spread by the Koch's among others.

You bring nothing but lies and distraction, to the table.

Oh, and by the way, I came up with something very similar to your post many months ago when you were far to busy with your puppets and bots to notice.

So you should just go.

you bring nothing new to the table.


[-] -1 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

He called you a dumb ass for two legitimate reasons:

  1. You attacked him prior for no reason at all.
  2. You are a dumb ass.

Read the thread again if you already forgot:


And, for the record, gnommuny never called you a dumb ass. He said you had a dumb ass idea. Not the same thing. Your own illiteracy led to your interpretation of being a dumb ass.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Fine bit of research that.

Now shooz made an interesting and informative inquiry, regarding the Koch.suckers extraordinaire . . .

Any response? Any effort at all, to restore whatever might remain of your rather soiled reputation?

[-] 0 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

I don't care about the Koch brothers. I'm not from US, so your particular politics don't interest me much. I'm here to discuss Occupy related issues, not to create a divide between left and right politics.

Note, where I'm from the democrats would be considered a right wing party. From my perspective, US doesn't have a left wing. Is has an extremely far right wing, the republicans, and a right wing, the democrats.

You're free to talk about the Koch Brothers, ALEC, or whatever else. I don't bother you about that. I'm here to talk about anarchist theory, something that applies to the international protest that is Occupy.


[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Aw, isn't that cute.

You can call names too.

What's your favorite insult to be called?

Will you be calling other posters children again??

You should just go.

You have yet to bring anything to the table.

How about those Koch brothers?

You can say something generic now.

[-] -1 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago


This is what Occupy is about, not your childish and petty obsession with starting lame fights with all the users here.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Then you shouldn't have come here and done that, nor should you continue to do so.....over and over and over and over and over and over.

Shame the fuck on YOU!!


Fill in that blank, with your favorite insult.

You should go now. since you have NEVER apologized.

[-] 0 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

Your little rants are childish. Aren't you ashamed?

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

What rant is that?

What's the point of discussing what might happen 100years down the road???

Now about that comment on the Koch's you're avoiding?

[-] -1 points by DrMurdochBrown (-3) 1 year ago

The irony is that Zendog, who claims to hate both liars and fools, has mistaken Whetherman1968 for me, Thrasymaque. Even more mind boggling is that we are totally opposed in our views. I have never espoused right wing views on this site! Never! (Those who disagree, I challenge you to find a comment or post in which I do!) Quite the opposite, I have mostly been pushing anarcho-communism, and for the death of conspiracy theories (which incidentally, usually come from right wingers like Alex Jones).

Furthermore, I never posted porn here! This idea that I posted pictures of penises is a complete fabrication based on no evidence at all. Another user imitating me did this. Jart knows it, so anybody could check. (I worked hand in hand with jart to track the guys IP and ban him. He was spamming his link all over the forum for weeks.)

It's ironic to say the least that a smart individual like zendog who claims to hate liars, feels alright with the idea of posting unsubstantiated rumors in accusatory fashion towards another user on this site. Shouldn't one accumulate strong evidence before making accusations?

Too funny!

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

But you're a liar.

So who's to say you're not lying now?

Name ALL your puppets, or be gone.

A puppet is just another one of your lies.


[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

You're a liar and those could very well be YOUR own puppets.

You have lost all credibility.

You just won't admit it.

Jeeze and you finish off with an insult.

That's the REAL 8 year old style crap.

So stuff and at least admit your a liar, because you are.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

So, now can we kick some right wing shill ass?

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

It will bitch and scream that we are ganging up on it.

But really?

It's just it's crazy shit, and it didn't wait for the rest of the wingers to get here.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

This bitching will be different from the last one? Not a chance.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Well no, of course not.

It's not that imaginative. Adaptive to right wing talking points? Yes.

But little imagination, indicated by repetitive tactics.

It misses the support of the right wingers.

[-] -1 points by twinkleshoes (-9) 1 year ago

Why do you keep focusing on attacking what you perceive as right wingers? Occupy accepts people of all political persuasions. The front page has this message:

"Occupy Wall Street is a leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. "

And, recent surveys show that 5% of Occupy supporters are right wingers. People are complex, they can't always be fit into the left or right wing box. It seems to me you're here to support Obama and friends, not to support Occupy's ideology. That would explain your obsession with classifying people you disagree with as right wing shills.

Some people are interested in widening the divide between left and right, occupiers are interested in unifying these people under common goals.

Instead of wasting your time like a 5 year old child attacking other users here, why don't you post a serious adult-like comment on my anarchy post:


[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Um......that's not your post.

So what the fuck?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

busted again!


[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

And again and again and again.

It should just leave.

It's time is over.

It has nothing new to add, as if it ever did.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

true, so true . . .

but it has provided some element of entertainment on this rainy day . . .


[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

I remember just the other day, when I provided a link to an actual issue in my every response, it ignored them and continued with it's insults.

I'm posting in between loads of laundry................:)

It has been mildly entertaining, but some mod or another will ban it again before too long.

I wonder if it will run out of nameplates someday?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

fuk no - it'll just use an automated script to create an endless series of meaningless alphanumeric pseudonyms . . .

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

That made it far too easy for the mods to identify and ban it even quicker.

I wonder if it will ever offer a cogent comment on any issue at all?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Seems entirely possible, even if only by accident . . .

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Even a monkey, endlessly typing........................

I think I'll be dead and gone before it offers anything of value.

It used to be in Asia, but that too, could have been a lie.

I wonder if it would lie about where it is now, or if it would change puppets, to skip the question?


[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

The old thresster, still hasn't gotten over it's falling out with jart.

So it takes it out on the forum, with lies and bots and puppets galore.

Don't expect a reasoned response to this. It's not what it does.

[-] -2 points by randydandy4 (-12) 1 year ago

More LIES. Fracking did NOT cause that. I covered stories 30 years ago (BEFORE fracking even existed asshole), and fire came out of faucets in rural areas.

NOTHING to do with fracking. Keep feeding your sheep followers LIES moron. It's what you do best.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Covered them for who 30 years ago??

Do you feed your sheep fracking waste?

What are you talking about??

The way it's done today, is different from 30 years ago anyway.


[-] -3 points by Timex2 (-11) 1 year ago

"wet dreams" "pink pantied penis"

Did I miss something?

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Don't know.

Where did you park your brain?

Or are you just having trouble finding the keys to it?


[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Nah, you saw the whole thing.

[-] -2 points by Timex2 (-11) 1 year ago

We just need you to go back to yelling at guys to go drink man juice and this site will be interesting again.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

What we need to is to have your right wing cockroach ass tossed out permanently. You're a political whore.

[+] -4 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

You can argue the risks of deep directional drilling and fracking, but not the amazing technology driven by the capitalistic free mind.

Freedom to think and act for oneself is lovely, awe inspiring, a crescendo of beauty.

That's capitalism.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Fuckin' right wing multiple ID cockroach is what you are.

[+] -4 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

See your therapist, your meds ain't working.

[-] 2 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Transference much?

You should paint your personal problems on someone else.

[-] -2 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

Uh, is directional drilling and fracking great technological applications? Yes or no.

Whether fracking is dangerous is for another thread.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Transference = "See your therapist, your meds ain't working."

Your mind is slipping fast.

In answer to your question though, another question must be answered first.

Do you consider global warming and other forms of pollution....."technological application"?

Are you sure you're not getting too much PBA in your diet?

[-] -1 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

No, another question doesn't have to be answered. Answer mine then we can go to other questions.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

Well no. My question is the more important of the two.

It is the detritus of capitalism. It is part and parcel to the application.

The one the "market" has yet to deal with in a effective manner.

To answer yours first is to say eating is good, but ignoring the fact that it comes out the other end, and now it's all over the house, yet you continue eating.

[-] -3 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

Nope. Sorry. Play your childish playground games elsewhere. And since you aren't a serious person interested in real discussion, stay out of my posts. You don't offer anything. Have fun playing whose straw man is bigger.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17705) 1 year ago

No contest.

You're a straw man that is the biggest of all.

You win......................:)

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Grow up, cockroach. You have sold out the country for your own personal wet dreams. You fail as a human.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13174) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

taken by itself it represents one more

with which to