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Forum Post: I don't get it. Please explain.

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 25, 2012, 3:28 p.m. EST by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI
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Why are people trying so hard to organize OWS at protests but all we have on the internet is anarchy where dembots and libertarians dominate discussions. Someone please explain this.

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[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1213) from Fredericksburg, TX 1 year ago
  • the pros are here to fight the good fight. we hold our noses and support the dems. it could be worse and may be soon. i sometimes wonder if it must get worse before a criticall mass awakens.

  • the cons may well be paid bloggers. maybe karl rove hires them.

  • libertarians are the dupes of cons and even the fools of the con base get over on them.

[-] 2 points by gsw (2687) 1 year ago

Because they are confused what ows stands for. Have 1 big principal, a message,

such as

OWS = anti corruption.

What is corruption?

--the duopoly http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_do_you_take_your_poison_20120924/ --PAC money in elections --unregulated capitalism

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/10-5

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002533014

http://underthelobsterscope.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/unregulated-capitalism-and-the-destruction-of-the-middle-class-and-what-we-can-do-about-it/

The duopoly

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/political_reform_quotes_presidential_debates/

http://veritasvirtualvengeance.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/2012_voter_guide1.gif --corrupting money in elections http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/10/occupy_wall_street_what_business.html http://www.wordnik.com/words/duopoly

--corrupting money in PACS advertising in election

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-koch/campaign-finance_b_1445506.html

--crony capitalism

http://www.economonitor.com/lrwray/2012/09/16/crony-capitalism-american-style/ --the revolving door in congress. --that politics is a road to wealth --congressional military industrial complex. Unethical business http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_joel_s___060719_business_allies_for_.htm

http://truth-out.org/news/item/9937-how-the-us-government-banks-prison-industrial-complex-corrupt-officials-businesses-law-enforcement-racists-and-the-cia-benefit-from-illegal-drugs http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/07/13/congress-outlaw-reporting-government-corruption-148411/ That is what Ows stands for. http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/09/21/microsoft-evades-paying-45-billion-taxes-187691/

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_democracy_dies_lessons_from_a_master_20101011/

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

An anti-consumer movement can bring the economy to it's knees. Desperate times and all that....

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 1 year ago

Because the online OWS is a deliberate distraction. Anarchists run this movement.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

You're probably right. Anarchy is a lack of rules so when there are no rules for the 1% you wind up with anarchy everywhere.

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 1 year ago

Anarchism isn't always about a lack of rules. I suggest a study of the Spanish Civil War. The anarchists there had plenty of rules.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

I know about different kinds of anarchists. The basic perception is a lack of rules.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 1 year ago

The basic idea is a lack of hierarchy, not a lack of rules. You need a lot of rules to keep hierarchy from creeping into an anarchic setup.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

OWS has no rules and it's still around. There's no hierarchy either. This is why i don't believe in ideology- real life is always different.

[-] 0 points by MikeMcKeel (-109) 1 year ago

OWS is full of rules to keep hierarchy at bay. They use general assemblies with direct democracy, refuse to elect leaders, etc...

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 1 year ago

No. That is not the basic perception I. The real world. Nor is it the basic rule in history.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

History is written by the winners. There's always another story-or two.

[-] -2 points by Postman0917 (-46) 1 year ago

lol

[+] -4 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Shut up and vote Obama! No thinking for yourself that makes you a rep plant......bla bla bla

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

You argue with dembots all the time so what are you talking about? You must be a libertarian.

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

I see my post flew over your head.

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Don't feed the trolls. Try to ignore them, they're only trolls.

[-] -1 points by podman73 (-652) 1 year ago

Lol I know but I like crossing their bridges ;)