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Forum Post: how SeriouS ISiS in Syria: degrade and destroy is bad. right?

Posted 1 month ago on Aug. 9, 2014, 12:17 p.m. EST by MattHolck0 (1295)
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Khamenei.ir ‏@khamenei_ir

Wherever necessary, US govts fund & arm #terrorists to further US plots by means of terrorist acts. #ISIS

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/511885667232542720

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghan officials say 14 people, including civilians, have been killed in a U.S. airstrike in eastern Afghanistan.

how serious Isis in Iraq

as a painted back drop

I understand we bombed a canon

ignoring one yonder jerusalem

..

kurds ask US central distribution for more weapons. Think we pass them out ?

....

president offensive is looking to go on the offensive

watch airstrikes on Isis

https://occupywallst.org/forum/what-to-do-about-isis-by-david-swanson/

MAP https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxR1lRjIUAIo-et.jpg

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[-] 5 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 week ago

News for us air strikes us air strikes New York Times

US launches new airstrikes against Islamic State fighters in ... Washington Post ‎- 3 hours ago BAGHDAD — Backed by U.S. airstrikes that began in Iraq late Saturday, Iraqi special forces, allied tribesmen and local police launched a ...

US Air Strikes Target Insurgents Near Iraq's Haditha Dam Newsweek‎ - 2 hours ago

More news for us air strikes

U.S. Launches New Airstrikes on ISIS to Protect Dam in Iraq ... www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/world/.../iraq.html

The New York Times

5 hours ago - TBILISI, Georgia — The United States launched a new series of airstrikes against Sunni fighters in Iraq late Saturday in what Defense ...

[-] 6 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 week ago

''ISIS is America’s New Terror Brand'', by James F. Tracey :

''Washington Opened The Gates Of Hell In Iraq : Now Come The Furies'', by David Stockman :

''How America Made ISIS - Their Videos and Ours, Their “Caliphate” and Ours'', by Tom Engelhardt :

''The Covert Origins of ISIS ?'' - Via SCGNews

''ISIS and Our Times'', by Noam Chomsky :

I VERY STRONGLY recommend viewing &/or reading the 4th link (Video & Transcript), before reading the other links. NOTHING that the MSM says about ISIS' roots should be believed - as it mostly b-s !!

veritas vos liberabit ...

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 week ago

Wish everyone on Earth would see this. And another surprise----Grain rotting, so North Dakota oil destined for Asia & Europe, can be shipped by rail.

[-] 2 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 week ago

''Americans Fear ISIS Sleeper Cells in the U.S., (&) Overwhelmingly Support Military Action"

The drum beaters for more War for Resources and Hegemony are started up their beat again Nevada1.

bella detesta matribus ...

[-] 3 points by turbocharger (1174) 1 week ago

Well, the administration was able to attack Libya and cause almost 100k deaths there, without a peep from the left here in the USSA, so at this point anything is possible.

I also love how "boots on the ground" is something they are debating in the media.

I guess at this point 35k contractors and statements on 1,000 actual troops being deployed are no longer considered boots either.

We are so fucked, so incredibly fucked. When countries start doing this shit, they have peaked and the fall is usually not pleasant. This inequality shit is just getting started, just the beginning.

[-] 3 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 week ago

''We don’t need to urgently debate how to defeat ISIS any more than “we” ever had to urgently debate how to depose Assad, Gadaffi, Hussein or any other former ally of the West. Our political class is essentially a criminal class, and not just the “right wing” faction that would choose Fox News over the UK Guardian. What we really need is strong political movements committed to prosecuting western leaders, as well as defeating them electorally. Breaking the elite stranglehold on public debate is one of many key goals such movements must have. Unless we do that, “we” will continue to bear a striking resemblance to the Oceanians that Orwell imagined.'' from :

Your reply was bang on the button & I get you but have faith ! We are legion !! We are The 99% !!! Now if only we could just get our shit together ;-)

per aspera ad astra et dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 week ago

the new terror brand dissolves in the tide of information

[-] 4 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 month ago

The late, great critic of the American Imperium, Chalmers Johnson, popularized the salient concept of “blowback”. That is, the notion that if you bomb, drone, invade, desecrate and slaughter—collaterally or otherwise— a people and their lands, they might find ways to return the favor.

But even Johnson could not have imagined the kind of blowback coming ferociously Washington’s way now. Namely, the mayhem being visited on much of Iraq by American tanks, armored personnel carriers, heavy artillery, anti-aircraft batteries and other advanced weaponry that has fallen into the hands of the very jihadist radicals that have been the ostensible target of Washington’s entire multi-trillion “war on terrorism”.

No question about it. The ISIS terrorists are winning against the hapless Iraqi military and even the formidable Kurdish peshmerga fighters—using some of the most lethal arms that the US military-industrial complex could concoct.

Yes, that wasn’t supposed to happen. During the bloody years after George W. Bush declared “mission accomplished” the Iraqi’s were ostensibly provided the arms and training to provide for their own defense. The American “occupation”, therefore, was really not all that. Instead, it was actually an exercise in “nation-building” that would bequeath to the people Washington had “liberated” a self-governing democracy equipped with the means to insure internal order and external security. Washington politicians—including President Obama—gave endless speeches about that. You can look them up!

Except…except….Iraq was never a nation. At least the Ottomans knew that you don’t put Shiite’s, Sunni and Kurds in the same parliament or police force, and most certainly not the same army!

By contrast, it was the British and French foreign offices which in 1916 drew the Sykes-Picot boundaries and created the historical illusion that a nation called Iraq actually existed. And it was their successors in the west which installed a series of corrupt and brutal rulers, including kings, generals and Saddam Hussein himself, who maintained an always tentative and frequently blood-soaked semblance of governance within these artificial borders.

Then came the neo-cons who for no discernible reason of national security could not leave well enough alone. By god, they were going to have regime change, a stable supplier of 6 million barrels of oil per day, and a stalwart ally armed to the teeth on the very doorstep of the Axis-Of-Evil; that is, the Iranian Shiite theocracy which happened to be religious kin to the single largest block of the Iraqi population.

What these fools did was to open the gates of hell. The end result of Washington’s 20-year campaign to liberate Iraq, beginning with the first gulf war and followed by the devastating trade sanctions of the 1990s and the brutal desecrations of Bush II’s “shock and awe” and all the military mayhem which followed, was to aggravate, widen and mobilize all of the latent ethnic and religious conflicts and enmities that had been bottled up for decades inside the Sykes-Picot illusion.

Now the furies have come. Ironically, the bloodthirsty ISIS is comprised of fighters who were first enabled by the misbegotten Bush maneuver known as the “surge”; then armed and trained by the CIA for the campaign against Assad; and now brandish the best weapons that any ramshackle jihadist group ever had.

And yet America’s “peace” President is sending the bombers back in because there is a “humanitarian crisis” involving a religious sect no American has ever heard of, stranded on a mountain top that has nothing to do with the security and safety of the citizens of Lincoln NE and Spokane WA.

Has not the American war machine turned the entirety of Mesopotamia and the Levant into a humanitarian crisis—of which this is only a tiny manifestation? Isn’t it time to at least stop fueling the blowback?

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fiat lux et fiat pax ...

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Article copied verbatim under 'Fair Use' from :

David Stockman's Contra Corner is the place where mainstream delusions and cant about the Warfare State, the Bailout State, Bubble Finance and Beltway Banditry are ripped, refuted and rebuked -

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Hello shadz, Excellent article.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Direct Turk and Saudi involvement also. So many layers of deception.

[-] 2 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 month ago

Re. ''So many layers of deception'', also please consider :

The USA, KSA, ZAE (Zionist Apartheid Entity), Turkey, Jordan, Gulf States, all on same side it seems - when it comes to Syria, Iraq and thus probably ultimately - Iran.

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

can we get them them to fire some rockets at us

it will make "intervention" that much more justified

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

We can fire the rockets at us our selves, then blame them.

[-] 1 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 1 month ago

At the risk of giving ZD & snooz another heart attack lolol - I'll nevertheless append the below in reply to your 'many a truth said in jest' comment with these two articles - the 2nd by one P.J. Buchanan, lololol :

From which: ''This semi-hysterical talk of an “existential threat” to the “homeland,” & the dread specter of “an American city in flames” is vintage war party, designed to panic us into launching a new war.'' !!!

multum in parvo ...

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

US could equip ISIS with ICBMs, to move things along.

[-] 0 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 2 weeks ago

''You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia'', by Alastair Crooke :

''Saudi Arabia's internal discord and tensions over ISIS can only be understood by grasping the inherent (and persisting) duality that lies at the core of the Kingdom's doctrinal makeup and its historical origins.''

respice, adspice, prospice ...

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

US militants rain terror of airstrikes onto independent Iraqi organization again

as though, the world is their gaza

https://occupywallst.org/forum/no-war/#comment-1043085

[-] 2 points by ShadzSixtySix (864) 2 weeks ago

''To Really Combat Terror, End Support for Saudi Arabia'', by Owen Jones :

''The so-called war on terror is nearly 13 years old, but which rational human being will be cheering its success? We’ve had crackdowns on civil liberties across the world, tabloid-fanned generalisations about Muslims and, of course, military interventions whose consequences have ranged from the disastrous to the catastrophic. And where have we ended up ?'' And ... ''Our allies are up to their necks in complicity with terrorism, but as long as there is money to be made and weapons to sell, our rulers’ lips will remain stubbornly sealed.''

ad iudicium ...

[-] 4 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

to the royal Saudi family and the King's absolute power.

absolute power is not possible without violence

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

I have never seen the Saudi's as Islamist

nor do I believe they are behind in fundamental Islamist

the only fundamentalism Saudi Arabia follows is dictatorship rule and oppression

...

like britton call themselves christian

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 3 weeks ago

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/23/us-air-strikes-isis-commanders-syria-considered

The United States was said to be considering air strikes aimed at eliminating individual leaders of Islamic State as Turkey came under mounting pressure to stem the flow of jihadists across its border into Syria.

this method is known as assassination

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

A man was beheaded and no attempt to find out who the criminals are is made

instead the government tells us it was terrorist

and that won't let it stop there bombing schedule

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

False Flag again------And well timed, to draw attention away from St Louis

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

One has to wonder - just how mentally retarded a terrorist group would have to be - to kill someone from the media - that is telling their story ( well kinda ) ?

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

Good Point

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

Thanks - but - they know that = you don't kill someone who is getting your story out to the world . So - really - how retarded to kill this reporter!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

the first report on this "video" was pay no attention to what the reporter says as he is under duress of his captors

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

Was Rupert Murdock there? I mean - ya know - reporter under duress - and all - ahemmm...............

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

does he contribute to the bbc

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

He thought so. The UK? Ummmm Not so much - they asked him to leave.

[-] -2 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 4 weeks ago

The retards are those like you who believe nonsensical and delusional conspiracy theorists like Nevada1 who don't believe terrorist groups exist and who always blame it on false flag operations.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

GFYS

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

Trashy

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

PBS US passing out more arms again Lebanon

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

Senators John McCain (R-Arizona) and Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) on Monday came out with a rare statement in praise of the president.

“We applaud President Obama’s decision to step up US air strikes in support of Kurdish and Arab Iraqi forces who are fighting to retake the Mosul Dam from ISIS,” the senators said. “These actions should now be expanded into a broader strategy to degrade ISIS both in Syria and Iraq, as we have been advocating.”

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Bombing-ISIS-in-Iraq-US-sidesteps-Syria-371445

Killer congress need more meat

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

PBS finds man to call Isis fanatic executioners without evidence

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

Isn't there evidence by now? Iraq is Humpty Dumpty. Anbar Awakening is now the very rude Levant Awakening.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

I haven't heard domestic trouble in Ferguson

[-] 2 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

Where did you see the notice of the U.S. State Department having downgraded the national citizenship of James Foley to domestic citizenship?

NO Americans will ever be beheaded by ISIL because the State Department can simply strip their U.S. citizenships posthumously.

[-] 0 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

Have you seen the video?

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

Which video? The beheading one or the State Department one?

[-] 0 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

beheading

[-] 2 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

Yes, sort of. The voices in it were greatly distorted and stretched out as if being disguised and the gruesome scene was missing. We should grant James Foley his last wish that he wasn't American. It makes sense so it is up to the U.S. State Department to tell all media not to call James Foley an American anymore.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

we are all human beings

[-] 2 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

Yes, the U.S. State Department should also tell the world media that Patrick Sawyer who had brought Ebola to Nigeria was not American because working for a foreign government (Liberia in this case) had nullified his U.S. citizenship before he flew with Ebola Virus Disease to Lagos. American government is more human being than others.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

CIA ?

[-] -1 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

No, Islam terrorists did the beheading. As per usual.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

the goto propaganda of the British

[-] -1 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

You don't believe Islam terrorists exist?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

All humans are capable of violence

I believe the state uses terrorist to justify killing

[-] -1 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

Your beliefs are of no importance since we have evidence that Islamic terrorist groups exist. If you think US is the only perpetrator of violence in the world you are childishly naive, or some type of idiot conspiracy theorist.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

building bombs 'til bunkers boil

getting paid for shell filled toil

if I am to work tomorrow

lobe the load on foreign soil

yep US only pays 41% of the total world military budget

World Military budget in Billions (percent total) by Nation

1,630 World Total
711 United States 41%
143 China 8.2%
71.9 Russia 4.1%
62.7 United Kingdom 3.6 %
62.5 France 3.6%
54.5 Japan 3.3&
48.2 Saudi Arabia 2.8%
46.8 India 2.5%
46.7 Germany 2.8%
37.0 Italy 2.3%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

Global Arms Sales By Supplier Nations

39% United States

18% Russia

8% France

7% United Kingdom

5% Germany

3% China

3% Italy

11% Other European

5% Others

http://www.globalissues.org/article/74/the-arms-trade-is-big-business#GlobalArmsSalesBySupplierNations

[-] -1 points by DiegoAlbanese (-45) from Miami, FL 1 month ago

OK, so some type of red herring? I never said the US didn't spend lots on military and didn't do horrible things around the world. US is a horrid country. They do crimes left and right. I would never want to live in such an evil land. However, Islamic terrorist groups still exist. You're wrong if you think US has the monopoly on evil barbaric acts.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

After all the uranium US dumped in Iraq, it is obvious that nothing US does, is about helping the people.

[-] 3 points by trashyharry (1871) from Waterville, NY 1 month ago

"There's plenty of oil.There are too many people."-Henry Kissenger

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

The way these guys think, has been proven by their actions.

[-] 3 points by trashyharry (1871) from Waterville, NY 1 month ago

It takes all kinds to fill up a freeway-but do we really need all of these reactionary types and Fascists who think about death all the time and work tirelessly to promote death in every possible way? It's like the Death Channel."All Death,All the Time."

[-] 2 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

YEP = self serving to the detriment of all.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

and why not?

we make them weapons

who better to teach their use?

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

If they are going to shoot down a US war plane, it will be done with a US gun.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Everyone needs to see this.

[-] -1 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

Or Soviet/Russian or Chinese or European - but yeah odds are USA origin - the USA being one of the most prolific providers of arms to the world - and apparently quite non-discriminating in the providing as well.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago
[-] 2 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

Bankers - they never have changed - have they? Only gotten worse and more diverse.

[-] 2 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

Spock narrates. Huh - But back to the point. YEP - USA proud suppliers of arms to the world since shortly after 1776 ( in the span of history recorded history - a veritable eye blink from the birth of a nation to becoming an arms supplier for the world ).

[-] -3 points by cometotheparty (-66) from New York, NY 1 month ago

What conspiracy theory hogwash. Absolute garbage.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Trashy-----Professional Pest-----Bed Bug For Hire

[+] -4 points by cometotheparty (-66) from New York, NY 1 month ago

I'm trying to help you. I want to save your brain from conspiracy theory thinking. Feeding junk to your brain is just as bad as feeding junk to your body.

[-] 0 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

[ EDIT ] Well the actions of training and arming "freedom fighters" goes back a long ways. Friends that day a serious problem the next - part of it started in arming groups to repel the Soviet Union - that got accomplished and then those "freedom fighters" got down to business squashing local competition.

Arming for peace - what an F'n cluster-fuck. But hey - the MIC just loves the guaranteed never ending income ( well never ending until all are dead anyway ). EDIT -> And so the infrequent imposed cease fires/limited peace = gotta let em raise up some more troops uummmm "freedom fighters".

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

humanitarians of convenience

[-] 2 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

All around the world we see results of arming for peace (?)

There is no peace just ever escalating conflicts of neighbor on neighbor violence/death/murder/revenge/avenge/angst/rage/destruction/disease.

Meantime the MIC keeps producing and distributing ( selling ) more arms for peace.

Wash Rinse Repeat = invading corp(se)oRATs rub their hands in glee as all of the turmoil allows them to continue their conquests of acquisition and control and destruction - unopposed by any regional sanity.

[-] -1 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

Twitter needs to expand the number of characters allowed for a short tweet. I think it would enhance quick communications - as it is - the limit of 140 characters seems more conducive to promoting confusion - unless one ties in a link to be opened for a fuller communication/thought.

That being said.

Tweet:

DKAtoday @DKAtoday · 15s

All around the world today we see the results of arming for peace = never ending ever escalating conflicts

neighbor on neighbor violence.

[-] -2 points by cometotheparty (-66) from New York, NY 1 month ago

The low number of chars is what makes twitter great.

[-] 2 points by DKAtodayandtomorrow (-7) 1 month ago

Who are you trying to kid thrashingmasks? Not me. How many times in how many guises have you put down twitter? 1000 ? More?

[+] -4 points by cometotheparty (-66) from New York, NY 1 month ago

I have hundreds of TwitterBots designed to do one thing: to obey my every command.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 3 days ago

Khamenei.ir ‏@khamenei_ir

Wherever necessary, US govts fund & arm #terrorists to further US plots by means of terrorist acts. #ISIS

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/511885667232542720

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 week ago

U.S. conducted two airstrikes on #ISIS near the Mosul Dam and Irbil, destroying two armed vehicles, @CENTCOM said.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 week ago

News for us airstrikes news us airstrikes news

Iraq's Shi'ite militia, Kurds use US air strikes to further own ...

Reuters ‎- 2 hours ago

SULEIMAN BEG Iraq (Reuters) - A small group of people pick through putrefying human remains laid out on plastic sheets by the side of a road ...

US Airstrikes in Iraq Hit Islamic State Vehicles

ABC News‎ - 3 hours ago

Other nations back US airstrikes in Iraq, oppose taking part ... Washington Times‎ - 4 hours ago

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 week ago

US Military considers going after ISIS as public opinion tide turns in favor of invasion

misleading

anti bomb Iraq <> pro invasion

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

degrade and destroy is bad. right?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

some in congress call for politic support of war actions as they cannot claim to represent popular support

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

how about deploy a cheap public communication network ?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/03/world/africa/us-airstrike-in-somalia-targets-shabab-leader.html?_r=0

On Tuesday, Pentagon officials announced that they had conducted American airstrikes to go after the leader of the Shabab directly, striking at the heart of a militant group that has allied itself with Al Qaeda and terrorized the region for years.

The American warplanes dropped a number of Hellfire missiles and precision bombs.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 3 weeks ago

I'm confused about islam here

I was told it meant peace

I guess we know what happened to those pacifists in egypt

did we teach those people war?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 3 weeks ago

FreedomFighter • 15 minutes ago

I believe they have changed their plans. Instead of removing Assad from power, let him control only half of syria, because with the other half of syria and half of iraq forming a sunni puppet state (califate), they will be able to build the gas pipeline from saudi arabia to turkey and into Europe, breaking the russian gas monopoly.

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Matt Holck ti FreedomFighter • in a few seconds the media needs to stop referencing to the puppet state as islam nor should the leader be considered spiritual

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[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

assuming the video is even out of syria

b12

miss

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

Mojave?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

Foley's captors demanded 100 million euros ($132.5 million) in exchange for his release, according to an official with GlobalPost, the U.S.-based online publication the freelance journalist was working for at the time of his abduction in Syria in 2012.

that's right someone missing for 2 years was executed

where we're they hiding him? Guantanamo

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 3 weeks ago

The world's appetite for cheap oil funds ISIL which may go after Libya and Saudia Arabia because of their oil wealth. Wherever there is an exchange of oil for money, there is a conduit and imprint left in the financial world. Where do you think Pakistan, a suspect state mentioned in the link uncovered by Nevada1, keeps its money? English is Pakistan's language. London is the financial capital for euros. John the non-Baptist of the "killer Beatles" has London accent. I say that the Brits need to do some homework regarding the London financial/"killer Liverpool" connection.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 3 weeks ago

Raqqa, Syria guarded by the "killer Beatles" and eventually beheaded by "John," NOT the Baptist, in the desert hills off of the Euphrates river valley.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 3 weeks ago

Foley's captors had the Dollar Awakening so they demanded euros instead. They probably have financial channels for euros to be saved and spent. Euro is now the reserve currency for terrorism. Aren't we Americans proud of claiming that moral high ground?

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 3 weeks ago

i am sick

a our bombs keep killing

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 3 weeks ago

Bombs in service of the First and Second Amendments writ large "is no vice," especially after getting a declaration of war. As you know, the U.S. is "the land of the free and the home of the brave" which will bravely excise this "cancer," alone if need be. Naturally, surgery comes with blood to nourish the Tree of Liberty.

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

Good assessment. Have not yet seen a video actually showing decapitation-------Anyone with a link?

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

as usual government hagel says reasons were justified without saying anything

he used the words "new paradigm of threats"

I wonder if he knows what "paradigm" means

or he just using it like a buzz word

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

To further carry on your excellent ( building ) catastrophe comment.

Just imagine - if - every modern country/nation - removed their need for fossil fuels.

1) what would that do for the demand for fossil fuel?

2) what would that do to the cost of fossil fuel?

3) How much less pollution would be happening due to fossil fuel use?

4) Would the major reduction in demand for fossil fuel reduce the amount of deaths attributable to competition for fossil fuel ownership?

5) ETC

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

that global catastrophe is private international companies losing control of foreign resources

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

could lead to global catastrophe if unchecked

A final escalation - I think would be more accurate - as I see every single armed conflict ( minus the drug wars ) as being fossil fuel resource derived catastrophe. And the massive numbers of lives lost is the catastrophe = on-going for decades now. Continuing this pursuit for control of fossil fuel is insane - when one considers that fossil fuel is no longer a necessity. And so the ongoing tragedy of death for no good reason as well as a very real extinction event possibility ( the final catastrophe of fossil fuel pursuit and use ) for all life as we know it - for no good reason. Fulfillment or satisfaction of greed is not a good reason for ANYTHING.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 4 weeks ago

True Words----"A Final Escalation"-----False Flag on schedule

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 weeks ago

False Flag? Of course it would be. Ya gotta display the proper corp(se)oRAT logo (s). And - folks? - they are not behind schedule on this final extinction event = guaranteed - they will literally kill themselves bringing this one in on time.

[-] 1 points by Crackpot (44) 1 month ago

Who is so interested in Iraq/Middle East that they need an American journalist to go there to report on terrorism?

Video shows ISIS beheading U.S. journalist James Foley

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 4 weeks ago

First Amendment right (Freedom of the Press) writ large as gift-tossed to especially U.S. citizens by James Foley sent him there. He was a bleeding-heart "brothers' keeper" who risked his life bravely for others such as Syrian civilians and U.S. citizens' right to know. Maybe you did not catch his gracious gift toss but I appreciate and respect his deeds.

[-] 1 points by Crackpot (44) 4 weeks ago

It is very sad. The First Amendment right is not recognized in Syria nor Iraq. Many Americans have the misconception that the whole world sees Human Rights the same way.

When immigrants migrate here do they appreciate the gift they have been given?

Do you care about what is going on in the Middle East? I just know enough to stay away from there. Watching Jerusalem on Youtube.com is good enough for me.

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 4 weeks ago

First Amendment right is not recognized in much of the world. Governments, rulers, religions, patriarchs, chauvinists, autocrats, totalitarians, ad infinitum all disregard it as they see fit. It is a major reason why much of the world is such a fountainhead of excreta for all. Simply put, lacking it precludes feedback that may correct problems early.

Some immigrants appreciate but others don't.

I care about what is going on in the Middle East because we are so much connected to it through oil, political influence peddling, contagious disease (MERS, West Niles) imports, terrorism, etc. Jerusalem is a holy site for the major monotheistic religions. It turns out that the "navel of the earth" is the epicenter of much human misery where the Divine Finger of Inspiration stirs up the witch's cauldron. Staying away from the Middle East and beyond is not enough for me. I am awed, transfixed, terrified, disgusted, flabbergasted, horrified, exasperated, ad infinitum. It is the wholy moldy guacamole that Mother Earth shoves into my throat (to keep me alive [to make foie gras])!

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 4 weeks ago

the US has a double standard for human rights

we'll imprison a foreigner indefinitely without charge

Iraq is one of the countries that shares assigning death sentences to people with the US

[-] 1 points by Crackpot (44) 4 weeks ago

The US has more than 2 standards for human rights.

Untouchables on Wall Street

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmyrWDQljw

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

too horrific to show

US Bomb Carnage

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 1 month ago

ISIL got a little bit envious of the Nobel Peace Prize so it is vying for the Noble Islam Prize with beheadings.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

there's no way to challenge the US in dismemberment when the explosions are counted

[-] 1 points by grapes (3031) 4 weeks ago

Yes, the phrase "drowning all of you in blood" is legally ambiguous so it needs clarification such as "drowning all of you in your own blood."

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

turns out the mountain emergency in Kurdistan was as drastic as the news claimed

that was our official reason to start bombing

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

15 bombs rain down on Iraq.. The terrorist group USA claims responsibility

The designation came as US fighter jets, bombers and drones on Monday launched 15 strikes against Isis positions around one of Iraq’s most important pieces of infrastructure, a third day of support for a difficult effort by Iraqi forces to retake the Mosul Dam that has doubled the lethal US strike total.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/us-sanctions-isis-members-mosul-dam-strikes

[-] 3 points by Crackpot (44) 1 month ago

I would like the UN involved since ISIS is attacking both Iraq and Syria and that falls under the UN charter. Of course there would be no need to go into Iraq now if the US hadn’t gone in there in 2003 against UN recommendations to remove Saddam Hussein and find WMD.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/intro.shtml

'If it ain't broke, don't fix it." was introduced into the American political language in the late 1970s by Bert Lance, President Jimmy Carter's budget chief. Jump 25 years to another phrase involving metaphoric breakage. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell was quoted in "Plan of Attack" as cautioning President George Bush before the war that he would "own" Iraq and all its problems, after military victory. "Privately," wrote Bob Woodward, "Powell and Armitage called this the Pottery Barn rule: You break it, you own it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/arts/17iht-saf18.html?_r=0

Where's George Bush?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Regardless of any stated commitments - humanitarian (? huh yeah right whatever ) it all boils down to fossil fuel. Nothing more nothing less.

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Exactly, and it does not matter how many people are slaughtered.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28164) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

and it does not matter how many people are slaughtered.

Nope - not one least little bit - take Syria for just one current example of unconcern and none of our business Bullshit.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

that is pathetic

they know none believe them right ?

[-] 1 points by Nevada1 (4650) 1 month ago

Can only hope.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

I feel sorry for the fox news network

but we all have to get money from the man to pay rent

[-] -1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 1 month ago

have I been too hard on the US government

I'm sorry, I know they try to do the right thing

@DKAtoday's Tweets are protected.

https://twitter.com/DKAtoday

government should be transparent

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (1295) 2 weeks ago

✭ Let's use Direct Democracy right here, right now. On this forum! ✭

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (988) 1 day ago

phone numbers check faster

Matt Holck

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Ben Franklin 238 years ago

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.

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