Forum Post: "Has the Election already been Stolen for Romney/Ryan?" - NOT YET
Posted 11 years ago on Nov. 1, 2012, 9:05 a.m. EST by nomdeguerre
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"For at least the past four decades, the American election process has been controlled by corporations and agents connected to the Republican Party. This year’s “contest” is no different.
Voter suppression campaigns have been underway across America, by Republican operatives. [See Brad Blog http://www.bradblog.com/ ]). Nothing is being done to stop it.
Mitt Romney has direct ties to voting machines (also see the report by Brad Friedman). His son, Tagg Romney (who wanted to punch Barack Obama in the face) and a cadre of former Bain Capital business partners are owners of Hart Intercivic, whose voting machines are used in all fifty states. And this is just one of the many companies with ties to the right-wing, which include Diebold, ES&S, and Sequoia. In 2004, Diebold’s Walden O’Dell promised to “deliver votes” to George W. Bush. His machines did, stealing what should have been a John Kerry win.
To this day, American democracy remains privatized and hackable. Nothing has been done about it. Theft continues unabated." http://www.globalresearch.ca/has-the-election-already-been-stolen-for-romneyryan/5310166
and "Rigged Elections for Romney" http://coto2.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/rigged-elections-for-romney/ http://coto2.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/part-ii-rigged-elections-for-romney/
We have a bogus electoral system, bogus media, bogus polling, bogus democracy.
"Stealing a US election? Nothing’s easier!"
"“I go to an ATM, and there is a Diebold machine, I get a confirmation slip – and I go around the corner to vote – and there is no record,” said author, social critic and political activist Naomi Wolf.
Meantime, Diebold and other voter machine production companies are known to have strong partisan affiliations.
“They are not accountable to any voters. They are not just private, but private and extreme in their political sympathies. Democrats don’t actually win that many elections. To be precise, democrats almost never win close elections. And the trick there, is to see to it, that a race looks or is close,” said Mark Crispin Miller." http://blog.smidesign.info/5004/stealing-a-us-election-nothings-easier/ http://rt.com/usa/news/us-election-voting-system-785/
Let me repeat Mark Crispin Miller's last comment, "Democrats almost never win close elections. And the trick there, is to see to it, that a race looks or is close”. That's the whole trick, fool the populace that race is close. Then the RATpublican blackhearts can steal it.
I have a correction to make to your post
For at least the past four decades, the American election process has been controlled by corporations and agents connected to the Republican Party and the Democratic Party
Now it's more accurate.
No, there is no equivalency between the Reps and Dems. If you think there is then your are a RATpublican plant, because you are not stupid.
Dems don't win close elections, or elections that our lying newsliar fake media portray as close, to paraphrase Mr. Miller.
"Democrats don’t actually win that many elections. To be precise, democrats almost never win close elections. And the trick there, is to see to it, that a race looks or is close,” said Mark Crispin Miller." http://blog.smidesign.info/5004/stealing-a-us-election-nothings-easier/ http://rt.com/usa/news/us-election-voting-system-785/
I'm not saying they're the same.
I'm saying with the backing of corporations and banks and super pacs to the tunes of billions, the Democrats and Republicans control the election process. They lay out their own private debates. They both have passed legislation to give themselves funding from taxpayers in the next elections. They pass the laws on determining ballot entry. They're making it into a system where you either have to be a democrat or a republican. They built up this game of hate called divide and conquer, and they both manipulate people and say if you don't vote for me you are pretty much voting for them. If that isn't controlling the election process.... I don't know what the fuck is.
Look we are between a rock and a hard place. But with the RATpublicans there is no stopping their rampage over the law and interest of the people. Look at the states with extreme RATpublican governors (most of whom I don't believe were honestly elected). Then look at the states with Democratic governors. Where would you rather live? There are many more good people as Democratic officeholders as opposed to RATpublican officerholders.
Sadly on the national level, as it see it, the main difference is that the RATpublicans are the evil power party, the Democraplicans are the enabling pretend opposition party, sort of like Juan Williams, the "liberal voice" at Fox, or Alan Colmes when he was paired with Sean Hannity.
The Democraplicans are weak. They didn't dare make an issue of Bush/Cheney stealing two elections. They didn't dare breathe mention of a filibuster (after being threatened by the RATpublicans) and thus the RATS needed only 51 votes to pass laws in the Senate while the Dems need 60.
The Dems need people of humanity to unite behind them and then take over the party from the ground up (they are organized into district clubs that 10-15 people could take over) to stop the RATpublicans and to stop the slide of the U.S.A. into a full RATpublican dictatorship. Third party voting or abstentions will only help the RATs consolidate their power.
Maybe he disagrees and believes republicans are the problem.
Is that ok with you?
He might be a Democrat! Is that allowed?
I'm simply making the claim more accurate.
HIS claim is accurate fine in HIS opinion.
YOUR opinion is not relevant. Can you handle that some people have a different opinion from you?
Your entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't automatically define accurate. Even Democrats are entitled to opinions. And they are as valid as yours.
What do you think of that.?
Fact checking is very important.
No doubt, Perhaps his fact checking found the reality that the repubs were so vastly more guilty it would be inaccurate to lump them together.
I mean the parties are both conforming to oild corps, but one proudly so & the other out of fear of being targeted @ campaign time.
To just say they are equally guilty is inaccurate.
So the OP is either wrong, and the Democrats won fairly and squarely with Carter, Clinton, and Obama (which means that the Republicans have NOT been controlling anything for the past 4 decades) or the Republicans WANTED those men in office and made sure they got there-(which means an Obama win is really a Republican win too).
Which is it nomdeguerre?
You are a RATpublican, a fascist, a American freedom hater, a American ideals hater, a hater of the U.S. Constitution. I have nothing more to say to you, other than to say how dare you use the name of a great patriot. You know nothing about patriotism.
As has been said in this blog, we, OWS, are taking back the flag. If you want to fight us you'll have to trample it under. Fuk off.
I just added the "NOT YET", in case the original article was a psyop designed to acclimatize our side to having the election stolen.
That's how these genuine psyops, psycho-ops work. So sly, so clever. Those dastardly psychopathic machaevellians!
the best psyop of all is funding both sides in pursuit of war.
Iraq had WMD's and is a threat - Said Dick Cheney, George W Bush, the Clintons and joe Biden.
"Iran is trying to make nuclear weapons and is a threat" said Romney and Obama.
"Iran is not a threat and we need to end these wars yesterday!" Said pretty much every candidate not sponsored by millions in Super Pacs and Corporate Cash.
True.
Only one candidate has successfully resisted right wing war mongering pressure to invade Iran! And begun the diplomatic effort to end the conflict with discussion in the face of right wing ridicule!
Only one candidate has ended the illegal repub oil war in Iraq!
Only one candidate has signed an agreement to end the 2nd repub resource war in Afghan!
Only one candidate has reduced US miitary killing from a million+ to thousands, reduced drone strikes and WILL end both.
Only one candidate has cut the military budget, the use of private mercs, and will continue to do so.
Only one candidate has stated the desire to eliminate all nuclear weapons and is the position to do so.
Don't believe the 'both samer' fallacy. One party can be dragged back to the progressive principles we need to resolve all the problems created by conservative policies!
With massive protests, only one party has a chance of being made to serve the 99%.
I mean, until the new system, from the ground up, horizontally, with direct democracy emerges.
Peace.
Protest Pres Obamas continued drone strikes & rights violations.
And the repub fear mongering propaganda that they have used since they exploited the 9/11 attacks to garner support for the war on terror, & rights violations.
That illegal repub war was voted for by Joe Biden too along with a ton of republicans and democrats. Stop lying about how it got started. The WMD lies date back to the 90's. Obama himself even voted in favor to continue funding the war in Iraq as a Senator.
Afghanistan was started by republicans and democrats. It's still going on for guaranteed minimum of 13 years under Obama or Romney.
Romney and Obama and many democrats and republicans are making up lies about Iran being a threat and have said a military option is possible.
And the drone strikes are mainly war crimes.
And as far as fear mongering goes... both Bush and Obama have said there are men in caves who want to kill us.
Bombing 6 countries in one term is not resisting anything.
I have not lied about how the repub resource wars were started. YOU are misleading people when you suggest that dem votes makethem equally guilty.
I can blame dems for supporting right wing war mongers war plans, and for submitting to the repub fear mongering propaganda they used after they exploited the 9/11 attacks.
Most important is to recognize the real roots.! Repub war mongering resource wars, and right wing fear mongering propaganda.
To ignore that or attempt to minimize by lumping dem capitulation is to serve those war mongering/fear mongering right wing forces!
Dems are NOT engaged in the fear mongering propaganda that repubs are using to perpetuate the continuation of the war on terror.
Dems continue to be ridiculed & attacked in their effort to establish that Al qaeda is destroyed so that they can declare the repub created war on terror over.
That is the big difference between the parties. One has been (for 40 years) the war mongering party. The other criticized for being weak on defense (since the great anti war McGovern) .
One knows that people are more conservative when they are scared and so they use fear mongering to garner support. The other does NOT!
Can fish swim?
I don't know - Does the Pope shit in the woods?
You third-party dupes are making it easier. Thanks a lot.
Third parties make it easier for a Republican or a Democrat to get in.
Did you send a thank you note to Perot for getting Clinton elected?
You have a point. But I don't think Democrat puppetmasters were behind his effort.
Note that the puppetmasters threatened his daughters life, according to him. Then the puppetmasters turned around and ridiculed him as paranoid. And then, after the election, he disappeared from the public eye. Hmmm.
I sent him flowers and chocolate.I would of sent cigars but could not stand to see them wasted.The golden years are over.Remember the big news back then.Shark attacks blow jobs and a blockbuster economy! I also remember all the fuss about Monica.Stevebol do you also have a blue dress.
Why do you want to know if I have a blue dress? You sound like a weirdo don't talk to me.
You sound a lot like Ann Coulter.So I just wondersd if you do a Monica persona
education prices were rising
Buhha HA HA !
the 2 party party is the only party in town
Yeah, but you're a RATpublican house slave.
Local governments have Supervisor of Elections. Why does the Federal government not have an independant agency with the power to establish Federal voting laws/regulations that apply the same to ALL 50 states? If election fraud is so rampant, and has been for so very long, why have there not been efforts to permanently correct it by establishing a body responsible for maintaining the integrity of the election process?
Rhetorical question. The answer is obvious.
The system works just fine for the liars and cheaters.
each state has government powers to run local affairs
the colonies foremost complaint in "the declaration of independents" was that the king of england who failed to ratify local colonial law. The colonies wanted to be in charge of their laws locally
Um...I believe it's called the FEC.
So if the majority votes for Romney then the election was "stolen"?
let's pretend we get 60% voting turn out
romney could win with 31% of the vote
And if Obama wins? Make no mistake, I know that if Romney wins most of the Left is going to scream fraud no matter the lack of evidence. But if the messiah wins.....
You're looking backwards.
Your handle should read "Novision1"
There would be no proof. Our voting system is illegitimate, nontransparent and bogus. We can never know for sure. Going just by personal observations, yes I would bet large amounts of money that if Romney "won", he and his fellow RATpublicans would have stolen the election. The fact that they've already stopped exit polling in many states and don't seem to allow independent exit polls is a very bad sign.
Let me go further, if the stealing is as blatant as Bush's in 2000 and 2004, then the National Guard should honor their oaths to the Constitution.
The RATpublicans have made our country the equivalent of a banana republic.
And if Obama wins then everything was fair and square? How convienient.
No, that would mean that he won by even more, but the psy-opers of our fake democracy didn't dare steal the whole election.
So he would have won by a massive landslide but .... Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the majority don't agree with your gods ideology? Can you grasp that concept? Or does your ego preclude any such thought?
no
we already railroaded into 2 undesirable candidates
True. But that is the fault of the people. And I'm willing to bet that many,if not mst, people here will agree with my previous post.
Then you're not paying attention.
Read more, assume less.
It's highly possible. I may regret this little admission but that was shown back when Ron Paul was shafted. I don't even like the guy. So, let's be honest here.
The RATpublican establishment just rolled over Ron Paul and his supporters.
I was thinking of a specific incident. I cannot remember all of the details. I want to say that Ron Paul actually came out ahead in a couple of counties but was not acknowledged as such.
That's absolutely true, I think he might actually have won a couple states.
Tagg Romney (who wanted to punch Barack Obama in the face)////////////////////// what is wrong with that, obummer is useless wakeup