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Forum Post: Guardian Article: No more NSA spying? Sorry, Mr Obama, but that's not true

Posted 3 months ago on March 30, 2014, 11:12 a.m. EST by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ
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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/30/no-more-nsa-spying-obama-not-true

We now live in the world that Huxley and Orwell prognosticated on.

The fascinating thing to this middle aged man is that as a child I was told it was the evil commies in Russia who did things like this, not the Bill of Rights believing American government.

The regime in Washington is a smoke screen for this anti-democratic society in the US. It is my hope that people in the US will wake up and end the thing in Washington before it is to late to end it. It is clearly an insane system that has gone off the rails of justice.

The War on Terror was never about Al-Qaeda and bin Laden. They are the lackeys, the excuse for the failed corporate controlled market economic system in the US. The War of Terror, like the Cold War, allowed for a legal system of control. A lie and a fraud designed to give unlimited power to Corporate America though the Wall Street controlled regime in Washington.

The enemies of the American People are not in a caves in stone age Waziristan. The enemies of the American People are on Wall Street and in the Corporate Boardrooms of America. These Boardrooms sanction the regime in Washington.

The US is not a democratic country, it is an extremely sophisticated Corporate dominated police state. The American People are occupied, and unlike the people in Gaza, do not even know it. The American Corporate System is the single greatest system of control devised in human history. The Ruling Class has people in the US believing they are free to do whatever they want, it is the single most sophisticated psychological lie ever created by the human species.

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[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (102) 1 month ago

a government with no secrets must face its own actions

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

We now live in the world that Huxley and Orwell prognosticated on.

I found that out way back in 1997

where the fuk have you been?

[-] 1 points by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ 3 months ago

Your comment makes no sense.

The reference to the quote is based on Snowden. Before Snowden all this was speculation, now it is fact.

So to answer your question, I have been around. Reading, studying, bar fighting, having my crew hold down assholes while I break their fucking fingers with a hammer.

I am into Buddhism like you, ZenDoggy, and I believe pain helps raise a person's consciousness. So when you are an argumentative asshole, like you, the pain of the hammer dropped on the fingers opens the mind.

Fuck ups like you realize, "Wow, I should try to be respectful to people in my comments, because I may be taking to a pipe hitting Italian Irishman from Jersey City who is the only guy in his crew who has not had a gunshot wound. Maybe these are not the type of people to piss off with unintelligent and argumentative comments. Maybe I should be more non-aggressive in my speech before a real man and a crew of hardcore hood motherfuckers sets me straight."

If you just thought that, good for you. See you are learning. Now turn off Fox news and go get your fucking shine box.

[-] -2 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

TonyBuontempo . . . sure sounds Italian . . . and whether you are Italian or not I really couldn't say - but hc, the fact remains - you are still a liar.

I dont' really care for organized criminals really - they've had a negative impact on the entire culture of New York City - in my opinion - but they are not the only influence to have done so. Conservative thinkers have had a much longer presence in NYC than organized crime, and survival of the fittest was a principle embedded in the culture long before Lucky Luciano . . .

You said: Before Snowden all this was speculation, now it is fact.

Here we have clear evidence, you are about as far from the mob as you can possibly get. They've been living the Orwellian nightmare for . . . well. Far longer than my original awakening lets put it that way. With the CIA using them to secure the docks and the borders, and the FBI looking to bust them or exploit them in some other ways, they've had all eyes on for quite a while.

  • Cocaine-trafficking suspect claims bug planted in body - December 17, 1996

    • Vincent (Gigi) Portalla, appearing in US District Court on cocaine-trafficking charges yesterday, told relatives he discovered that federal agents had implanted a microphone in his body when he underwent surgery after a recent shooting.
  • Mob War in Beantown

    • Less than three weeks after this shooting, Marino and McConnel were arrested at Logan Airport by Drug Enforcement Administration agents. Charged with cocaine trafficking, Marino was flabbergasted that they had been caught. He was told by one of the agents that they had put a tracking device in his rear end. At his arraignment, Marino told a U. S. magistrate judge that federal agents had “implanted a microphone” in his butt during recent surgery. He then instructed family members to contact a lawyer at the American Civil Liberties Union.

Organized crime is a relatively small universe of social interaction, largely isolated by circumstance - incidents like the above, especially in light of the fact of constant surveillance itself, tend to make the rounds, and become the stuff of legend.

That does not begin to consider the numbers of criminal associates who have chosen to enroll in jail time rather than face the obligatory series of choices . . . they appear in the paper from time to time, bold faced and indifferent, brandishing weapons as they impersonate law enforcement or whatever else they dream up as a means of escape - INTO prison . . .

but you would not know about any of that - and you would not because you are a fraud - plain and simple.

You just wannabe bad

kiss my ass hc

[-] 0 points by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ 3 months ago

Fuck you, try me asshole, you find out just our real I am.

Notice how I use my real name, I tell you where I am from?

What about you asshole, are really even from VT? Why the fuck would I believe a jack ass that does not have the balls to use their real name? Want to find out who I am, who I sit with, I am very findable jack ass.

Fuck you, and your family, jack ass. Man you trolling conservatives are a pack of fucking pussies.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

kiss my ass hc

[-] 0 points by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ 3 months ago

I can keep this up too jack ass. So go get your shine box.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

you are so full of shit hc

if you were associated with organized crime in NJ then you would have heard of Portalla, and you would have heard of Marino, and you would inform me that they are in fact the same person - and then you would go on to explain how you know this and why he is known by two names.

If organized criminals had the patience for typing on social media that is

so I'm curious hc, does Fat Tony know you are impersonating one of his boyz?

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

bwaaaaaaaa hahahaha

[-] 1 points by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ 3 months ago

Organized Crime. What the Fuck are you smoking dumb shit. Who the hell said anything about organized crime?

You think the crew I was referring to is an organized crime gang? Oh my god you are dumb and right-wing. I was referring to the Working Class men I work with you dumb shit.

Jesus Christ, stop watching TV. Who the hell is Fat Tony?

You need a haircut, a bath and a job.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Who the hell said anything about organized crime?

I thought you were fairly clear in your attempt to suggest just that - right here:

and in fact, you did not deny it here after I demonstrated that while it was possible it seemed highly unlikely, here

[-] 1 points by TonyBuontempo (15) from Jersey City, NJ 3 months ago

What in the hell are you talking about? You think this means an organized crime organization? Where in the hell do you think that settling issues in this manner insinuates an organized crime syndicate?

So using this reasoning, when I was in military school and we would deal with jack asses with the shower curtain over the head and the beating that followed, this implies an organized crime family?

Too much TV. This is why I do not own one, it changes the way you think. Thats wild.

[-] -3 points by ZenDog (13270) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Here you just sound like one more nasty assed repelican

but here, with your violent imagery and your use of the term whose root is respect you were clearly attempting to sound both criminal and organized.

Perhaps Fat Tony will let you off once he knows you are just another conservative whore . . . I really don't know . . .

and maybe he'll just fuk ya like the whore you are . . .

.

but to answer your question: when I was in military school and we would deal with jack asses with the shower curtain over the head and the beating that followed, this implies an organized crime family?

the answer is obviously, if hazing is illegal, then yes, this represents a form of organized criminal activity . . . it may not rise to the level of criminal enterprise if one defines enterprise as a profit making scheme . . . but it could