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Forum Post: Gay pride supporters turn violent, street preachers attacked on camera

Posted 1 year ago on July 4, 2013, 2:04 p.m. EST by Clancy (42)
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http://www.examiner.com/article/gay-pride-supporters-turn-violent-street-preachers-attacked-on-camera Demanding tolerance not giving tolerance to people with opposing views.

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[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

gee - and I thought all gays were saints

[-] 2 points by DebtSUSPENSIONRights (181) 1 year ago

the Supreme court made a huge mistake. They should have challenged the gay movement to do another ballot initiative, and this time not eff it up the way they did in 2008. The initiative wins 70% or higher yes, and then the delusional thinking that the process was a civil rights battle can be put to rest.

The gay movement screwed up the 2008 campaign and instead of acknowledge their mistakes, they decided that america was too backwards to grant them marriage equality, and now many will pay the price of having to watch exaggerated drama every year about gay marriage having to "overcome" conservative hostility.

They lost in 2008 in California in the same election that put Barack Obama in office! Of course they screwed their rather arrogant campaign.

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[-] 2 points by DebtSUSPENSIONRights (181) 1 year ago

Interesting analogy. The gay movement saw themselves as the footloosers (not loser). But that would be wrong. What they did do wrong was say they were just like a fertile heterosexual married couple.

All they had to do was say they were no different than an infertile married heterosexual couple, and in that context, of course they should have the same marriage rights.

The arrogance in reaching for something that is not identical to their situation sunk them, and instead of accepting that and reworking their campaign, they went to the judges and cried.

And they, wasted over 4 years at the same time!

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Poor wittle Christians. You guys are a hoot. You drool at the prospect of being victims. Just out there with little peaceful signs.........preaching a religion of hate and intolerance.

If the reports are true and this guy has had 9 felonies and 12 misdemeanors, not so sure that you should be looking for tolerance from this guy straight or gay.

[-] 1 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

They still ganged up on him and beat him.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

And he was arrested. Rightly so. I would not look to this guy as some type of ambassador of gay rights.

[-] 0 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Are you serious? Did you watch the video. The two guys were attacked. How can you condone that? Don't you believe in non-violence?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I'm not condoning it. The guy was arrested. By the same token, I find the Christian persecution complex out of line.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

no

those perpetrating violence should be prosecuted

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

we'll worry about violence in another battle

first let's talk about immigration and tax evasion

and electronic tracking (I mean spying)

[-] 0 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Maybe you think attacking someone is no big deal. But I do. You're quick to dismiss the violence. You may not agree with the guys signs, but we have free speech an all that......

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago
[-] -1 points by 12deadflies (-6) 1 year ago

The problem is anti-gay people don't simply express their free speech, they try to push financially wealthy religious institutions to influence the government which is not right in a society which claims the separation of church and state. Churches are businesses and should be taxed like all other businesses.

[-] -1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

So what's your solution? Maybe roam the streets and beat up anyone who look christian? Come on, If this had been gay guys getting beat up by rednecks you would be up in arms. Where is your sense of justice?

[-] 0 points by 12deadflies (-6) 1 year ago

No, of course not. Violence is never the answer. The people who used violence against anti-gay Christians should be punished for their actions in the court of law.

The way to fight off nonsensical religious people is two fold:

  1. Use the constitution to fight off those trying to pass laws based on moral codes coming from certain religious views.
  2. Ridicule religious people constantly.

We can't all do #1 since going to court costs money, but we can all make fun of religious people. This is important. Ridicule is a strong way to make a point. Every time I have a chance to ridicule a religious person I do. Anyone who is deluded enough to believe in fairy tales for adults, and then use those fairy tales to pass laws which limit the rights of certain other people deserve to be ridiculed vehemently.

There's no other way around it, religious people are simply not very smart. Religion breeds like wild fire in poorly educated societies. There's a reason for that. You have to be a little idiotic to believe in religious fairy tales.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

We can't all do #1 since going to court costs money,

Metallica-And Justice For All

[-] 1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

A very rational response. Thank you.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Lots of times those guys dont exactly stand there silent. They will verbally abuse you up and down, taunt you, scream at you, etc.

[-] 0 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Maybe so, but that's not the same as physically attacking someone.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

How many insults do you put up with before you snap?

[-] -1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

I don't snap. At least I never have. But that's beside the point. It's never right to attack someone. Plus you're most likely get arrested.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34903) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Don't poke the tiger with a stick. Fine that tiger may get a ticket - but you - you will get maimed. Which is fine if you think it was worth it.

[-] -1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Oh, poetic tonight. I don't know about poking a tiger with a stick. But I am non-violent. And I'm not a 60's peace and love hippie. I'm a army combat veteran And I own several guns and carry one every day. Also a former hunter and conservative. I just know violence, other than defending yourself or someone else is wrong. If you attack me you may get shot, but if you;'re just badmouthing me I'll just walk off, See how easy that is.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34903) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

if you;'re just badmouthing me I'll just walk off

Sure sure and everyone has the same restraint?

REPEAT:

Do not poke the tiger with a stick. Unless you are prepared for what may happen and be ok with it if you get mauled. Which is fine ( I suppose ) if you think it was worth it ( or was absolutely necessary ).

[-] 0 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Well, if have such low level restraint you will probably end up in jail. If you beat up every person who says something you don't like you'll end up beating up a lot of people; and spending a lot of time in jail. Besides, the story of Trayvon Martin has a moral to it.

No one should allow themselves to to intimidated by the threat of getting beat up. I'll not allow anyone to threaten me into silence, and you shouldn't either.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34903) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

No one should allow themselves to to intimidated by the threat of getting beat up.

Not to worry - if it is "just" then there will be plenty who will stand-up - hence the world wide protests. Kinda speaks to the fact that it was just 2 idiots poking the tiger.

DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT OF :

Do not poke the tiger with a stick. Unless you are prepared for what may happen and be ok with it if you get mauled.

[-] -1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Yea, but if I'm packing the tiger may get a surprise. It's the world we live in today. It's a very real risk of attacking someone these days. I agree with your tiger analogy, but my statement is also true.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34903) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yea, but if I'm packing the tiger may get a surprise.

Yeah I'm sure your a dangerous individual. Neredowells take note.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

You are right its never right to attack someone. But sometimes people just have it coming to em. Its not right, but its expected and not that out of line.

[-] 1 points by Narley (-629) 1 year ago

Yea, maybe some people have it coming. But it should never be expected; and it's out of line enough to get you locked it. Attacking people can never be justified.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

No its not legal, but is anyone going to be surprised when a group of people beat the snot out of the Westboro Baptist crowd? Or someone yelling racist shit gets their ass kicked? Or some loud mouth finally gets someone to shut him up?

I mean, we all know someone who really just needs their ass kicked right? :)

[-] -1 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

I love how people say Christianity is a religion of hate, Christianity doesn't hate homosexuals we simply disagree with their lifestyle. It's like disagreeing with smoking or political disagreements. You obviously don't know much about Christianity. There are racist and homophobic Christians, just like their are racist and homophobic Jews, Muslims and Atheists.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Actually, I know quite a bit about Christianity. Especially, the history of early Christianity. Yes, it is a hate fest.

[-] 0 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

Yeah it was pretty bad back then. However these days Christian aren't killing people for their faith,

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Exclusive and monstrously deluded hate fest.

Neve once considering the words of the the scriptures.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

It took 8 centuries to put together a Christology. The scriptures were formulated on exclusion and hate for money and power back when monks were gangbangers.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

8 centuries? Evidence please, GF.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I didn't forget you. I need a day off so I can do more than 15 minute shots on line.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Absolutely. I'll be happy to provide that as soon as I get back tonight. If not tonight than tomorrow morning.

[-] 2 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

how many witches were burned by Jews in Salem ?
how many Muslims were killed by atheists seeking the holy grail ?
how many Jews killed how many Christians in the Spanish inquisition ?
how many Muslims killed Jews in the concentration camps ?

[-] -3 points by mideast (506) 1 year ago

the kkk is full of Jews & Muslims & Atheists

[-] 1 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Note to men everywhere: if you look like that bald guy, do not take your shirt off in public.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

they're all just animals anyway

[-] 1 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

Who?

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

humans

ya know the case having to be about 375,000 lost dollars to inheritance tax

when that kind of money isn't even accessible to most of us over 10 years

kind said they care about rich people more than gay people

ah details

[-] 1 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

Good response

[-] 1 points by PastorRaymondBird (-3) 1 year ago

Modern day clerics should accept gay marriage.

Pastor Raymond Bird, Parish of Connecticut

[-] 0 points by Clancy (42) 1 year ago

What denomination are you?