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Forum Post: Fracked Again. Thank You ALEC

Posted 1 year ago on March 5, 2013, 1:09 a.m. EST by shooz (17742)
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Yes those harmless little neolibe(R)tarian curmudgeons, the brothers Koch, are using just one of their many non partisan "charities", to write legislation for lazy politicians.

Isn't nice of them.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/14912-alec-sham-chemical-disclosure-model-tucked-into-illinois-fracking-bill

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[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Do you remember that link where the disclosure laws are listed by state?

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

Don't remember off hand, but his one should work.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/climate_desk/2012/08/fracking_laws_by_state_wastewater_notifications_and_chemical_mixes.html

Do you find it amazing that the State with the most exposure to the Great Lakes lacks them?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Yeah, it is amazing.

That one works just fine. I know the first one map that I had seen listed the laws by state and it is amazing the fight to get disclosure of the chemicals used.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

FRACKING.

An issue that MUST be pushed down forum, by personal attacks on users that post on such subjects.

After all fracking is such an intently local issue, that's of no concern to the World.

At least that what certain posters keep intimating.

I don't believe them.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

HB 2615 - proposed on Feb. 21 with 26 co-sponsors - has an ALEC model bill roped within this lengthy piece of legislation: the loophole-ridden Disclosure of Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid Composition Act.

Nice job there, Koch Heads.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

Where's all those loophole closin' libe(R)tarians now?

Still tooting lines of Koch?

Yes, yes they are.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Every state legislature needs to do an all out ban on fracking, for at least another 5 years.

NYS has postponed, again (I wonder why) their voting on the two year ban.

In my opinion, the two year ban is worthless. And Cuomo's waffling on the issue is enough of a reason for removal.

Any legislation that slides things in should be disallowed. Its time for the people to start writing the legislation and forcing these politicians to sign it.

Pretty fuckin disgusting that the Sierra Club would endorse this.

Ofcourse, this is the same Sierra Club that showed up to Earth Day with an entire truck of plastic bottled water a few years ago here.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

ALEC

Destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

Not surprising you didn't notice.

Not surprising at all.

Not surprising that your response has little to do with the OP either.

It's your MO.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

18k posts of incoherent rambling and desperate attempts at plugging your "coined" terms...similar to the right and their idiotic "Demorats" and libtards takes..

All inclusive is not for you dude. And seems how you said this "" I'm not running for anything, but if Murdock wants to give me some cash, I'll take it." --- your mindset is the exact thing we are figthing against- you should be happy its all inclusive. Id love to see you at a GA and have said that. Id love to have seen you at one at all.

Feel free to help organize MTA any day now. Help is wanted. Or keep sitting on here and being an asshole, attacking the people that are.

Distrupting, attacking people all over, promoting your little branded tags, etc. What a train wreck.

How many other sites do you go on and attack people? Is that your mo?

And if you cant tie what I said into the article, then you are just being an asshole as usual. I dont think you are dumb, I just think you're a dick.

And the stats on this site show that your constant bullshit is not creating new discussion, its just turned it into the same fuckin nonsense that can be found on any other site, and hence no one comes here anymore.

And stop assuming you are the only one that knows what the hell is going on. How arrogant are you? Especially for someone who went to OccDetriot maybe once or twice. Visited a couple times and now assumes you know what the mindset is. What a dick. Dont listen to anyone, whoever you are (some creep), because YOU have all the answers, and the great plan.

This isnt your own personal easter egg hunt for your childish amusement.

Be happy its all inclusive. Disruptive, attacking assholes arent much of a help in anything, and yet here you are.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

Aww, a name calling rant from a Bircher believer, that thinks the 99% are asses.........

The guy who stinks(sic) up for ALEC and the Kochs.

Who changes the subject whenever they are mentioned.

Yeah, you should call me names.

It's all you have.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

One of Ayn's core beliefs was that people act in self interest.

Like being on here raging about money in politics, and then stating if it were you, you would do the same thing.

"" I'm not running for anything, but if Murdock wants to give me some cash, I'll take it.""

So is Ayn wrong or are you a hypocrite? Perhaps both choices are correct?

Maybe you arent alone? Maybe theres a ton of people claiming to back occupy and then when the opportunty comes, they just sell out like Poof! !

I dont think so though. I think you are exception.

Thats why occupy was so awesome. The community aspect of it. Do you enjoy community? Or will you always act in self interest?

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

""" I'm not running for anything, but if Murdock wants to give me some cash, I'll take it.""

I dont need to call you names to prove you are everything thats wrong with this country.

Sell out.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

If I donated it to OWS, would you cease your pointless name calling rants?

Would you then stop calling the 99% asses?

Would finally begin to answer the questions asked of you?

I don't think you would, but I don't really know.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

"" I'm not running for anything, but if Murdock wants to give me some cash, I'll take it.""

No one wants your murdoch money, except for you. Keep it.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

The check's in the mail, eh?

I won't be holding my breath.

So how's that repeal of "right to work" going?

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

I bet you would hold it for a very long time to get your hands on some more greenbacks.

I bet you would even go against everything you claim to be about to get some more.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

I'll take all his damn money, just send it along.

I'd take it, just to see him broke.

You're the one that keeps saying it isn't worth anything anyway.

So you're a betting man, eh?

Go ahead and take that bet, but expect to lose.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

" I'm not running for anything, but if Murdock wants to give me some cash, I'll take it."

You stated you would take "some cash"...as in SELLING OUT. That wasnt a statement on sabotaging murdoch, it was a statement on your lust for money, going against the main thing this is about.

Seems how Murdoch is tied to ALEC, guess what that means?

DING DING DING!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVZxNoFBj58

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

That's your assumption and that's all it is.

DING! DING! DING!

The last one of your links I followed locked up my browser.

In my book, seeing Murdock and News Crop. broke and crawling on the floor, would be a good thing, no matter what it took.

If I recall, you've also minimized the effects of FLAKESnews, LImbaugh and all the rest.

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Nice spin.

[-] 1 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

The truth only equates to spin on FLAKESnews.

Like you spinning your take on the 99%, while backing "right to work" laws, written by ALEC.

[-] -2 points by danya8 (-98) 1 year ago

Shooz...still hoping for planes that fly on solar panels. What a fucking idiot.

[-] 2 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

I'm just hoping for a personal one for you.

You're brain is sorely underpowered.

[-] -3 points by danya8 (-98) 1 year ago

The world runs on oil, coal, and natural gas. Get fucking used to it' .Solar and windmills will never power planes, ships, trains, or cars.

Wake up little snoozy from your fantasy dream

[-] 2 points by shooz (17742) 1 year ago

Never say never.

A lesson you haven't learned.

Have fun in your nightmare.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Good morning, little cockroach. Do you get paid by the post or the word?

[-] -2 points by danya8 (-98) 1 year ago

I get paid to expose your ignorance and lies. OWS is a joke. Not even relevant. You all had your moment of glory when you were living in tents, shitting in buckets, getting arrested, shrieking while getting tazed.

Party time over though. Back to mom's basement and playing World of Warcraft.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by danya8 (-5) 1 minute ago I get paid to expose your ignorance and lies. OWS is a joke. Not even relevant. You all had your moment of glory when you were living in tents, shitting in buckets, getting arrested, shrieking while getting tazed. Party time over though. Back to mom's basement and playing World of Warcraft. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle reply permalink


So, you are a cockroach with a Koch problem, Do tell.

[-] 1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

The amount of stimilus sent to the banks the last 5 years would have been enough to put solar units on every single house in the nation, and power their vehicles off of as well.

That would have been a good usage of that money. And the banks would have fallen.

I dont think we can fly planes on solar panels yet. But all the homes and cars would have been an enormous accomplishment. Big players do big things. And the people leading this country are ridin the pine.