Forum Post: Food for thought, FRESH!! For those interested in health.
Posted 11 years ago on March 9, 2013, 5:16 p.m. EST by analystwanabe99
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Just thought I would share with you 99%ers a little ditty the FDA and the Surgeon General has not been telling us. The reason we should eat fresh, (uncooked) fruits and vegetables is that when they are exposed to temperatures above 160 degrees the enzymes are killed.
Enzymes are the 3rd leg of a 3 legged stool that includes vitamins and minerals. (Co-enzymes) Think of it as a 3 part epoxy and if you don't have all 3 parts the epoxy will not work. They are really that important!!
Your bodies immune system uses over 300 different enzymes in conjunction with vitamins and minerals to heal itself. (The drugs you doctor prescribes are bullshit that only take away the symptoms of illness. Except the hormone therapies like insulin, etc. .) Most of the 300 are manufactured in the body b y your body but some of the most important can only be gotten by eating fresh foods.
If you want to start right away just incorporate a salad with each meal or you can buy supplements that will do the job but I always opt for the natural over man-made stuff. Ive been studing health and nutrition all my life. The most effective time management tool is to live a healthy and long life. You cannot wait to the last minute to make this change. When your dieing of obesity or heart stuff or cancer its too late. Your body will replace every protein cell in 6 months but as we age that process slows down so your lead time gets longer so dont mess around. Make a new habit today.
By the way for those of you who take prilosec or santac for indigestion you can stop taking that shit and replace it with 2 stalks of Bok Choy with your meal. Celery, Chinese cabbage, cabbage, and lettuce also work but not as well. Looking to put the legal drug pushers out of business so tell everyone you know.
I could write a book on this but that has already been done. Its called Enzyme therapy. Its at Amazon if your interested.
Well anyone interested in nutrition?
Yes. But I know very little. My wife is the medic and gardener in the family.
I always say: "God gives us 40 years to learn about health and nutrition and if you don't learn by then your waist size becomes the same as your age. And if you don't believe me just look around.
You don't have to look very far around these parts. I grew up on a farm with a big garden. The pump was about one hundred yards away. One day, when I was about five or six, I wanted to show my grandfather that I was big boy. Bit right into the middle of a just-picked jalapeno pepper (he was nibbling on one to tempt me). About a second later I realized just how far away the pump really was, then turned and grabbed a tomato off the vine. I love good tomatoes...
I always have em in the frig. Ive got 2 friges just because I eat so much fresh stuff, and of course I have to have some place to cool down that 10 gallons of salsa.
So are you gonna start that salsa Subsidiary?
I never heard back on the HOW to do it?? From the 99% Conglomerate?
Oh really? Sorry I thought I replied.
http://groupspaces.com/99Conglomerate/join/
You can put in a bogus email address or create a new one specifically for the Subsidiary, then set rules/filters to forward emails to your real account. Email addresses are hidden from others though, and only shared if you put it in the contact info.
Can I answer any more questions about starting? I can probably offer some nifty names for the Subsidiary if nothing comes to mind right away.
Ive copied this info and pasted to a word doc. for future reference but I don't think I can sell and send fresh salsa through the mail it would be very expensive as I would have to pack it with dry ice to keep it from going bad. When the enzymes are left in a fresh product like my salsa it will go bad faster than we are used to because it is LIVE food. I have an advantage as several ingredients I use for taste also act as natural enzyme inhibitors so they slow down the process. Sea salt, vinegar, lime and lemon juice. My salsa will last a minimum of 21 days in the frig. but each day exposed to room temperatures will cut that down considerable. Its a combination of being exposed to air, heat, and both those energize the enzymes to go to work and they start breaking down the fibrous vegetables and make them soft. I doubt that one days exposure will start bacteria growth because of the sea salt. According to the health department guideline all foods that should be refrigerated should be left out in room temperatures for no more than 2 hours then they must be taken down to under 40 degrees and stored.
Right, I understand. It's important to understand that in Phase 1, the P1 Subsidiaries are not really expecting to do much business. It's more of a community-building project and preparing for Phase 2.
Your Subsidiary can stay a P1 type for the rest of time or you can upgrade it to a P2 after Phase 1 is complete. Expect at that time to have more Subsidiaries and supportive consumers in your local community.
Phase 1 is about drafting the P2 Constitution (Subsidiary owners have one share/vote) and growing a list of Subsidiaries and recipients of the Subsidiary Directory. Participate as much or as little as you like, but just spending a few minutes to grow the list by 1 (or 2 or more) will do a great deal of good.
Oh, you are simply cruel...
Honest! I keep lots of fresh stuff always. The BokChoy will keep for weeks in the crisper. Its like celery that way. Just take off what you need, rinse and drain it slightly put it back into the plastic bag and back into the crisper. Be sure to wash the stalks good as the bugs love the stuff and if its not grown hydroponically or in some other controlled environment they will have to spray it with pesticides.
Thanks, we're headed to an Amish farmer's market (I've got to go) and will keep what you've said in mind. Wife said "Told you so."
There is no better tomato than a Jersey
They fetch premium prices in fancy NYC restaurants
As a general rule, you can trash NJ all you want, and most often us NJ-ites will readily agree with you
Just leave our tomatoes, and Springsteen out of it
~Odin~
With a warning like that... LOL I'll say nothing about how good ours were... Would like to taste one sometime.
I hope you get the chance some day ...'they' are special....,but admittedly you will have to put up with a lot of crap in NJ if you do come here
Jersey also known for its blueberries, and corn, but I have had better
Cranberries are still a big crop here in south Jersey, and there is an old cranberry bog the state bought for a park, but never did anything to turn it into a park, which I hope they never do
It's a great place to go x-country skiing...tubing...to play ice hockey as a kid (bogs are flooded in the winter)....swimming in the cedar creek that runs through it........ hiking.... bicycling ....canoeing, and just hanging out
Anyway most years, I pick cranberries with friends, then take them home and freeze them, one year I must have picked 20-30 lbs, and they're free!
~Odin~
I miss picking berries. We had raspberries, blackberries and boysenberries on some of our fences. Whoever was on the road side of the fence got free berries. Had a hell of a fight with the county road department for spraying pesticides on our fences (and berry bushes) and in the ditches. When the dust finally settled I got to bushog those ditches several times a year, but the county never sprayed them again...
I have come to view Sunday, for the most part as a good time to get away from some of the more serious and sometimes contentious discussions on here...so in that light
I'm glad that you won your battle with the county, as who would want to eat the berries after they were sprayed with who knows what
I remember picking three different kind of berries fairly high in the tundra of Alaska 3-4 years ago with two of my daughters, and the one's husband
We picked bluberries, salmonberries, and low bush cranberries which are also called lingonberries especially in Scandanavian countries
I just read in the link below that lingonberries have over 8 times the amount of anti-oxidants as blueberries do
Anyway getting back to my story; no sooner than we got home one of my daughters started making two huge three berry pie from our pickings
The results were...WOW! With a doolup of vanilla ice cream and some coffee, i was in heaven
The only downside to picking berries in AK is that you really have to keep an eye out for grizzlies as there is a rumor going around that they are quite fond of them too....;-)
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/alaska-wild-berries-tips-how-find-and-prepare-them
~Odin~
The grizzly-berry conspiracy is not a rumor ;>) Lived in Alaska for a good number of years. Miss the bush. Did she squeeze some lemon juice on the blueberries before baking the pie? MMMMM You and another poster are torturing me... He makes fresh salsa. I shouldn't write what I'm thinking about the two of you...
You lived in Alaska (what part?), then you know its beauty, and probably also know that moose encounters can be not so good too
I am looking forward to returning to AK in June for 6 weeks to see my granddaughter. If I have time, I may even visit two of my daughters out there too!...lol
Although I hate mutilating Jersey tomatoes, I too have made a great salsa with them, let's see...lots of fresh cilantra.....fresh basil.....lime juice....lots of fresh garlic.....green peppers....onions....cayene....& sometimes celery
If you think that i am torturing you now, wait until tomorrow when I return to discussing more serious issues...;-)
~Odin~
You guys and your big juicy tomatoes. (I'm not sure I want to write that line.) Anyway I'm jealous...
Anchorage for the first year or two, then the villages. Lived in an old log church for a while. Found out why no one else wanted it... too big. Took a lot of wood (or stove oil) to heat it. But I liked it. It suited me well and I miss it.
I don't remember the VF, but an aircraft carrier I passed thru once had Tomcats with black tails, a cat and the motto: "Anytime Baby". Flyboys were always a lot of fun to hang with... They got all the girls.
Gotta run, headed to the market. Hungry people with pitchforks dragging me away....
When I was a merchant marine, I regret not having taken a year and worked on the rivers of Alaska when i had the opportunity
Most of the little villages in the interior have no roads going to them, as you know, I'm sure, so everything is either taken in by boat or plane
There are also many problems in most of those villages as you would also know, the chief among them being alcoholism
VF? I spent a lot of time (one year, 1 mo. on.... 1 mo. off) with the military in Guantanamo Bay when we were there is support of the Haitian and Cuban refugees
It was unusual for World Relief (a Methodist org.) to be hired by the governemnt to process the refugees, but they were, and they threw the best parties on the beach at night!!
Most of military I met were nice guys, and they do share some of the resentment we have for our country's military adventurism, and that was before 9/11
MSC also hired a Ukranian passenger ship out of Odessa, with many of the crew being former Soviet military. I could not believe that...here they were in Gitmo. It was a great opportunity for me to realize more than ever that the people of the world just want the chance for themselves and their kids to have a good life
Going out too...see ya
~Odin~
Mmmm, tomatoes. Piccolini truss are my current faves.
http://www.perfection.com.au/media/543126/piccolini-media-release-page.jpg
NO builder, you are wrong to even think that that piccos... can compare to Jersey tomatoes
I am usually not a parochial minded person, but here I have to take an exception
I have literally picked them from the garden, and within an hour sent them to friends and family in Alaska
The recipients will now do anything for me!
Do I have to send a case of 'em to Oz to prove my point?!...
http://www.google.com/
~Odin~
Ill take a case . . . MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Ill bet they make a slammin salsa!!
"Salmon salsa"? I could see putting it on fresh baked salmon, but actually having it be in the salmon? I don't know....
Oh damn...I forgot, you can't send fresh fruits or veges to Oz....lol
~Odin~
Now your just being silly. . .
I've been accused of that before, perhaps most recently for being in OWS
~Odin~
LOL. No. I'm just saying that we have this "new" variety of truss tommies that are my current favourite. Would love to try your Jersey variety. I had these small yellow grape tomatoes growing outside my unit, but the new caretaker got carried away with his poison, and they never recovered. A very unique flavour and texture they had too.
Errrr....I think the word "unit" is usually used in a different context here..lol, at least on the 'street'
Anyway, it's probably a good thing only your tomatoes got poisined..;-)
~Odin~
Heheheh. Units are like apartments, but all at ground level.
They are often called "flats" here in Oz.
Local vernacular can be easily misinterpreted.
Progressives are actually people who are far-sighted over here.
You can have a lot of fun with the differences in languages
I have heard "flats" before
Not knowing the difference at the time, I asked my Kiwi wife what team she was... 'rooting' ...for.
She was not happy with that question and she may have hit me...;-)
~Odin~
LOL. We are never "rooting" for a team. We back them, or barrack for them, or go for them. To "root" for them would make a good B-grade porn movie.
Yes, I found that out the hard way..:-)
~Odin~
Did you all know that tomatoes are considered a fruit? That must be because when they are ripe they are sweet like a fruit. Ya think?
My family is tomato crazy, you don't want to lift my dad's cherry tomato plants!
I think they are fruit because they are juicy and the seeds are embedded in the "meat".
Reminds me of a neighbour who used to steal my cherry toms. I asked him if he washed them before eating. When he asked me why, I told him that I pissed on them to keep the bugs off. It was interesting watching all the blood drain from his face.
Hahaha nice one
Yep...that's how I remember Aussies 2 B
~Odin~
Tommies have a lot of history. Considered to be "love apples" in ancient Rome, they were denied the peasants, and reserved for royalty. In old England, they were considered poisonous, because the plates and cutlery they used were made of pewter, which had a high lead content, and tomatoes were able to absorb this lead oxide, which poisoned the diner. Today, with our advanced sewerage systems, tomato seeds make it all the way through the process, and sprout in the settling ponds at the end.
That's an interesting piece of information. Thanks
You're welcome. Tomatoes and potatoes are closely related. Both come from the "deadly nightshade" plants, many of which are poisonous.
I love horseradish and a friend of mine told me the other day that the leaves are poisonous! I grow it and told him the big leaves looked like they would go good in a salad. Have you heard about this?
Hmmm, no, but potato leaves are also poisonous, and if the spuds turn green, the only safe way to eat them is fried.
I really like Japanese horseradish, which is called Wasabi.
Interesting!! I always watch those restaurant shows and wondered what Wasabi was. If we get green skins on potatoes we cut them off but I think we still boil them. We like them fried also but use coconut oil for frying. Your just full of interesting information.
I've never tried frying in coconut oil. Must get some.
I use ghee or clarified butter for shallow frying, and lots of cold-pressed olive oil for other dishes.
Thanks for the compliment. I'm sure there's lots of info we can share. I just have one of those brains that has plenty of RAM, and a good graphics card. Got lucky genetically, I guess.
Coconut oil is incredible. I use it for frying also. Best to get it from the health food store if possible. Its white...looks like lard.
Coconut oil keeps the brain sharp. There's some evidence that the ketones in the oil is helping people with Alzheimer's.
You guys got the best sparkling Tasmanian apple cider. Is it still served on the taps at the bars?
In New York state and Vermont, they just press the apples, and sell it at the orchards unfermented, but a lot of people make apple wine or hard cider with it
And in Washington state, everything i saw was processed apple juice
I suspect they also that they send their apples off to the big corporate juice companies
~Odin~
I'll find out soon enough.
On my way to Tassie very shortly, for the first time.
Cool, both figuratively, and maybe literally too
Let's see, I remember flying from Melbourne to Lauceston (?)....then the old British prison colony where they would chain prisoners out to an anchor on the shore at low tide, and wait for hi tide....a couple days in Hobart....lots of apple orchards....and a huge ugly copper mine
Have fun, I did
~Odin~
Doing the Overland track.
Cradle mountain to Lake St. Clair.
It was such a long time ago, i can't remember everything, but I did hitch-hike around much of the island
New Zealand reminded me of Tasmania
Back then, youth hostels were great for young people traveling around
Are they still?
~Odin~
I'm fifty. Young at heart.
Backpacker's hostels are everywhere these days, but I'm more inclined to find a secluded spot, and swag it alone.
The Overland track is rated fifth-best in the world, so it should be a great test of me, and my new kit.
Neat, the Milford Track in Fjordland, NZ is popular too
I've spent several months on the South Isalnd, but never made it there
~Odin~
Did you know that NJ redesignated the tomato to be a vege so they could keep the blueberry as the state fruit...true
That's Power, much like the climate change deniers, eh?
~Odin~
How clever is that. Where can I buy some of those NJ tomato seeds? I'm getting ready to start some plants in my front porch greenhouse.
Lol....not sure if "clever" is the right word. It's not the seed, I don't think anyway. It's mostly the sandy like acidity soil which is found mostly in central and southern Jersey and it does need to be fertilized.
Errrr....it could be the 'ol nuclear power plant too
I plant the tomatoes in two different friends' gardens which have a layer of top soil on each, but the native soil underneath on the one, and I put a shovel full of composted cow manure at the bottom of the hole I dig.
Before putting the plant in, I break off a few of the lower branches, and then cover the plant almost two thirds of the way up the stem
The friend who has some kind of fill not natural to the area for that depth anyway, well her tomatoes don't do as wel as the other friend who has native soil
The latter friend also waters her garden a lot more, and with 24 plants, she has enough for me, her three kids, and all her grandchildren, friends, and even then some go bad because we can't eat them fast enough
~Odin~
I just wondered what kind of tomato they use. Early girls, big boys, roma or what? Them extras are for salsa dude!
There is no one type, which is all the more reason I believe it is the leechable acidity soil, but big boys, and rutgers are probably the most popular. Heirloom tomatoes are coming back too, but I haven't planted them. Just from sight, if anyone from the farm belt saw the soil here, they would question that good tomatoes could grow from such light looking soil.
~Odin~
Just FYI from a 99%er that just got screwed by the Nu-Wave precision cooktop people. I had to turn it up to 470 degrees to get it to hold 350 degrees for deep fat frying my eggroll wraps. Not very precision to me. My wife tried to cook eggs in it and finally gave up and got a regular pan, (you can only use steel pans on it.) and cooked them. As a result I did a test by putting water in the pan to boil. I found that the 10 inch cooktop surface was really only about a 4 inch circle in the middle and they depend on conduction thought the steel pan for the rest. The price structure and shipping gives you enough of a screwing that its not worth sending it back. The buy one and get one free is a scam because of the high shipping and handling costs. I know, I should have read the internet stuff about it before I jumped. My bad. . . .. But now maybe you all wont get screwed.
I rarely ever cook my vegetables and 70% or more of the food that passes through my mouth is plant based. I buy organic as much as poassible.
Smart cookie!! Opps! I mean smart veggie!!!
lol - a good refernece http://www.Mercola.com
My wife turned me on the Mercola long ago. goooooood stuff We made the mistake in 1998 of listening to a doctor and allowed him to irradiate her thyroid and have been paying, her with suffering, me with care taking, every since. We use his iodine. DO NOT EVER ALLOW A DOCTOR TO TAKE YOUR THYROID GLAND!!! Unless it has cancer. . . the medication they currently have to treat your body for a lack of thyroxin is the next thing to poison. Taking your thyroid is the equivalent to taking the carburetor or fuel injector off your car and then trying to regulate the amount of gas my estimating how much you will need today and putting it in a bowl with a hole in it that provides a continuous stream till it runs out.
thank you for sharing . . . personally, i avoid doctors. Medical schools are funded primarily by pharmaceutical interests . . nuff said !
http://www.slowfoodfoundation.com/pagine/eng/arca/cerca.lasso?-id_pg=36
Well eating a well balanced natural diet and supplementing your diet with natural herbs and vitamins, along with exercise, and a healthy as well as engaged lifestyle is the best way to avoid those pesky and expensive doctor visits of course there is not much profit in that unless you count quality of life.
Thank you. I value health a lot. I see those around me, who Ive been preaching to for years, go to the doctors to save them and now they wish they were dead because of all the side affects of the drugs. Our healthcare system is a drug administration system. We should demand alternatives be covered by insurance. Folks its the only way to true, professional care, healthcare. Today's doctors are being indoctrinated by the drug companies. The colleges they go to are totally controlled by the drug companies. The AMA documents are strongly influenced by the drug companies. Knowledge and ongoing implementation of a plan for what it takes to be healthy is the only other way. Personal responsibility demands we take care of ourselves as best we can.
yes unfortunately many of us are forced into living unhealthy lifestyles due to the employment we obtain or the economic cost of high quality goods or because they simply were never taught and are of average intelligence so they don't know how to use the internet properly to unleash the power of a search engine and the term holistic lifestyle. lol jk.
You know I used to think eating healthy was expensive but if you compare it to eating out its very reasonable. Of course that is considering you prepare it yourself.
The general rule that i follow is that i eat healthy at home, and when i go out to eat which I rarely do, I don't worry about it much
I used to get different tinctures, and could not understand why I couldn't get a discount for bringing my old tincture bottle back to be refilled
So now, I make my own tinctures, one has garlic, cayenne and tumeric in it with and then i add a little rum to top it off
The other one has pure liquid vanilla, cinnamon, nutmeg, and cardamon in it
They were not getting sucked up at first, but then I ran the bottom of the tube back & forth over some sand paper to make the opening bigger
I forgot what all that stuff was good for, but I know that the alcohol lets it get inot your bloodstream faster, and BTW, that is the only alcohol that I consume....alright maybe an ounce of wine one of my daughters left in her glass, during Christmas when I was doing the dishes
~Odin~
Oh you devil you . . .. I have a beer with Mexican foods and red wine with Asian foods and Italian foods and most American foods. I make my own wine every year from concord grapes and plums and what ever else I can come up with. Last year I made some mulberry wine and my friends just loved it. Too bad I only have 5 gallons of it. All together I made 30 gallons. 10 grape, 15 plum, and 5 mulberry. I only have 4 to 6 oz with a meal. Any more puts me to sleep. What are the tinctures for originally? I use apricot brandy for sore throats. I also use Iodine externally for ear infections or sore throats. Just paint it on the station tube and the inside of your ear with a q-tip and an hour later the pain is gone. Works wonders!!
I recommend pepitas (hulled pumpkin seeds) for a whole food that is cheap. Sauted in butter/olive oil till they pop, they are very moreish. I also point out the potato chips/crisps are about forty dollars a kilo, and so are chocolate bars.
Never heard of the pumpkin seed thing. What does "moreish" mean?
Moreish means you keep reaching for more.
Some health or whole foods are pretty bland, but roast pepitas are an exception, and you can quite easily grow your own, though they are pretty cheap when bought in bulk.
I will have to try that . . .do you season them after or while sauteing them?
I like to use vege salt, but that's a personal preference.
I always taste food before I season it. Some days I need salt (been working hard) and some days I prefer less or none at all.
As a general rule, you should stay out of the middle of your super-market, as that is where all the crap...processed food.. is
Europeans, and NYC'ers too I have noticed eat more fresh foods than suburbanites or us Yanks, and in so doing support smaller businesses
In Europe I've heard there are foods that are produced by the same multi-nationals that are here, but they restrict some of the ingredients that we readily consume
My kids taught me about the importance of good nutrition, and this people led rev is dragging the medical community along with it, begrudgingly of course
~Odin~
Don't get me started about the medical community, the legal drug pushers and our governments collusion with them and how the AMA backs it all up with their documents that legitimatize it all. Health care what a misnomer! Just another way to get our money without accountability. When you go to the real sources of wellness the alternative community OPPS, its not covered on your insurance. They don't want us healthy that's why they only PRACTICE the administration of drugs to mask symptoms.
I agree with you.....It was quite a while back, but i have read about how crooked our medical & pharmaceutical industries are. It's all about money$
And they do there best, can even be vicious in opposing alternative medicines which cannot have a patent slapped on them
I remember a friend almost 40 years ago who preached how important good nutrition was. Unfortunately, I didn't listen to her then, but my kids kept pounding away at me
~Odin~