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Forum Post: ex-confederate states always show us the way

Posted 5 years ago on April 4, 2013, 10:22 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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By C. Welton Gaddy,

Apr 04, 2013 11:25 AM EDT The Washington Post

Across the decades of my ministry and advocacy to protect religious freedom, I have heard and seen it all: fanciful claims that the First Amendment did not create boundaries between institutions of religion and government, countless legislative proposals to give one religion a special status in this land, redefinitions of religious freedom meant to subvert freedom for everybody and establish freedom only for some.

However, never have I seen a proposal as blatantly unconstitutional as a bill recently introduced in the North Carolina General Assembly. This ludicrous proposal would have the North Carolina legislature declare that establishing a state religion could be done without violating the United States Constitution, which unambiguously prohibits “an establishment of religion,” by claiming that part of the Constitution simply does not apply to the state of North Carolina.



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[-] 1 points by frovikleka (2563) from Island Heights, NJ 5 years ago

Other than some of the university towns, North Carolina is much like the rest of the deep South


[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

As always, there's more to the story. The Huffington piece was out before you posted, so you could have found it, but that might have gotten in the way of your fear mongering


"The Republican speaker of the North Carolina House of Representatives killed legislation on Thursday that aimed to establish an official state religion."

[-] 3 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

For any ELECTED American to even consider this insanity is frightening

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

It just shows their extremist tendencies. Never be attempted in NY.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

but NO religious fundamental cases,!!!! Which was the only point I made.

So your lists of scandals are not relevant to the discussion.

I suppose politicians are scandal prone all over. But mainly in the traitorous confederate states do we find the religious fundamental case issues of anti science, anti gay, & anti women, wackos.

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

Yeah. Thank god our guys aren't doing anything stupid like that.


I much prefer the bribery.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

Well your guys are both, corrupt and religious wackos. You throw in scandals to distract from the unique ignorant extremists of your leaders I guess.

And I may not agree with the Bloombergs nanny state but I do agree babies are better served by breast milk and formula corps are gauging families with their monopolistic practices.

So...... There

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

Actually my guys and your guys are the same guys. Pronoun trouble.

And regardless of everything else, the Republican speaker of the SC House squashed this legislation, so crisis averted.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

Unconstitutional Legislation averted. The crises is that lawmakers are ignorant, superstitious, and extremist enough to waste time money & efforts with some religious wacko shit.

THAT's the crises.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

So I guess a thank you email from you to the Speaker isn't happening? C'mon. Reach across the aisle.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 5 years ago

hey - thats a good idea
Thom.Tillis@ncleg.net Thom.Tillis@ncleg.net

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

Be nice and tell him you appreciate what he did, but please don't tell him you live in South Carolina.

When you lie like that you're insulting them, and you're embarrassing me.

Lies make baby Jesus cry.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

The crises remains. Did he address the disease, beyond the symptom that this bill represented.?

Nope. He didn't. He didn't do much at all. Shoulda let it go to vote and get everyone on record.

The speaker did a disservice to the SC voters. He prevented a vote and allowed the legislators to avoid taking a stand. and being counted.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

Jonathan Swift once proposed eating babies. Sometimes things are done for effect. Read a little before reacting and condemning an entire state.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

swiftian satire? are you suggesting the proponents of the bill were engaging in such efforts? do you think they have ever read swift?

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 5 years ago

Sure. I read him in the 9th grade when I was in a public school in the South. He's pretty accessible. They don't teach him in TN? You might want to work on that if they don't.

And I doubt they had him specifically in mind, sometimes people do/say something dramatic for a point. Swift's essay is just an example.

[-] 1 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 5 years ago

i live in tn but i am from ny there is no saving tn.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 5 years ago

I didn't know he was a legislator.

(You ain't too swift yourself huh?)