Forum Post: Doesnt that poor man in the Camoflauge house know that its illegal to live anywhere on the earth?
Posted 11 years ago on July 19, 2012, 11:48 a.m. EST by freewriterguy
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That poor man who lived on "county property" which means property belonging to the people, should have learned by now that its illegal to live anywhere on the earth unless they pay a rich man rent first!
We have had our sporadic discussions hear and there. I even remember bits of your history and the area you live. I read variation of basically the same topic in you posts. I understand that you are upset and I think I get the just of it. I have two questions for you.
1) Without attacks on the perceived oppressors, how would you like things to be when it comes to the topic of property?
2) What ways are there to succeed in the current conditions?
1) It should be illegal to rent, people who pay the bills should own what they pay for instead of continue in a system that pyramidically scams on others. This could include apartment renters, who get a full credit of what they paid for in the next apartment they live in. Corporations profits should be made mandatory to share with its employees, by putting a cap on how much its founder can make.
2) Land should be put back in the form of land patents, where no american citizen can ever lose their land, even if they fail to pay the banks, or government taxes. That land belongs to the people, not to banks, or to government. The improvements on the land is all the banks have an interest in, not the land itself.
Ways to succeed:
1) Our government can have a peoples bank and live off the interest, thereby eliminated the need for taxation and persecution of the american people. This double and triple taxation of our government in every level of society needs to end immediately. (Our government taxes oil companies hundred million dollars a day which is passed down to we the people, who pay another 50 cents a gallon tax at the pump) there is no need for that, its our money, meanwhile if oil companies are making "record profits" then it is clear that those taxes are passed down to us and we are being double taxed!
2) Our government needs to change its consume the american people attidue and share in the income, for example, when the consumer credit protection agency received 117 million dollars in fines from wells fargo for defrauding 10,000 + people, and we the people write them to complain, of ongoing problems with wells fargo. the government shouldnt respond with, "go hire an attorney" when they have the money that could help! Im telling you we the people can only handle so much of this tyrancy before we will one day say it is enough.
you'll be interested in wallstreet journal articles that explain how Fannie Mae and banks have now been given permission by the government to sell forclosed properties to investors to rent now to qualifying buyers instead of sell - which means the qualifying buyer will never have a chance to outbid the investor. Funny thought the whole point of Fannie Mae was to give people a chance at home ownership - if not that why are our tax dollars still going to Fannie Mae?
http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2012/02/27/fannie-mae-begins-marketing-foreclosed-homes-as-rentals/
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/03/21/foreclosure-bulk-sales-program-allows-banks-and-hedge-funds-to-buy-low-after-selling-high/
http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2012/04/05/fed-blesses-banks- foreclosure-rental-approach/
This is wallstreet inflating the market, selling high, foreclosing, buying low for themselves, and then making out like bandits on the rent because they are allowed to charge even more than the people were paying for the mortgage they weren't allowed to renegotiate.
Illegal rent seems a little extreme. It eliminates a viable service that is provided to the public, does not address that many people neither want or simply cannot buy property. (Those who move a lot or are at an early stage in their earning ability) We rent many things in life and I see no problem with renting places to stay.
Profits are shared with employees in the form of wages. Does that mean that wage earnings in relation to profits are not abused? No, but there are other mechanisms that might be explored.
Caps on profits are not something that I agree with at all. That is a slippery slope that could eventually harm lots of small businesses and self employed.
The land patent idea seems a bit more to my liking. Specifically on a primary residence. Defaulting on what you owe to another is a tough one. The seller deserves to be paid. I will ponder that. Understand that I own and owe on my property. If I do not pay my mortgage, as tough as it would be, I cannot see how I have right to stay forever. I think that better education on mortgage practices and how to protect yourself would be very helpful. Currently, it seems a majority of default mortgages developed when the consumer did not understand what it would be like to deal with the types of loans that were being given out. The interest and payment to income ratios were just too risky. A better understanding of how all these things can haunt you would have helped many.
I was asking about ways to succeed as an individual under the current systems. Double & triple taxation is rampant and I would love to have those type of things regulated.
I think that if individuals were encouraged to adopt an approach of "debt fee" living. The power of the individual would be improved. I have been headed in that direction for 6 years now. Only thing left is the mortgage, but I see a vast improvement in my personal power of economic and social situations.
Starts to some great thoughts. Thanks for getting back with me.
having a right to stay forever vs. losing your house you lived in for 20 years because you are in between jobs for a couple months brings to light that its all in favor of rich bankers, and something needs to change.
people who pay for america should own it, and not be scammed by another american because they bought the property first. In Mexico there is a law that if you rent for 5 years a home, then you own it, and are no longer a renter. This could be adopted here also. You see it is more just to have the people who pay for homes, own the homes, than for people who dont. Otherwise they are like the bankers who put up phony book entries for a home and no coinage value, and no risk.
Late in reply, I was out of town. I like many are in the situation like you describe. But, is it fair that the owner of a piece of property should lose it to someone who paid 7 years on a 15 year note? and if what you say in Mexico is true, what keeps a land owner from raising the price on rent to a level where they are justly compensated for the property with that 5 years worth of rent? Now, with that being said. Maybe addressing the equity that has been built up into a said piece of property should at least have a percentage of return to the lendee once defaulted on? Just an idea being thrown out there. I personally stand to lose an awful lot if I become delinquent on my property. I worry about it all the time. I am very conservative in my financial decisions because of it, but am still at risk. Ultimately, I disagree with you that a person who owns a piece of property is somehow obligated to give it away at some structured cut rate. Very complicated, but I am really trying to see your point of view. Truth is, I understand and agree with your frustration, but disagree with some of your solutions.
i disagree that any man who is created by God should be denied some part of the earth, I disagree that he must first pay for it from another man? Men have stolen the earth from their brothers, and what is above human comprehension is that we should benefit more if we would share the earth. After all there are thousands of acres more than we as a people can possibly inhabit.
Take the "bureau of land management". how many more hundreds of years, will our government "manage" our land for us before it become apparant, they have stolen it?
what i am proposing is based upon what christ taught, that you give to those in need, instead, our current system, denies those in need, and gives more abundantly to those who have excess. Take the finance rate. If no other point in our society makes me more ashamed to be labeled an american (as if there is somehow unity implied, when in fact we are not one people), it is how low interest rates are availiable to rich people who dont need the money, and high interest rates are put upon the poor who simply cannot afford to pay it. This single point is enough imbalance to warrant our blessing being taken away from us.
Yet the voice of mercy is crying out all the day long, for their is no punishment yet, and the occupy wall street protesters continue to signify that there is a great injustice. And though for some, it is not apparant exactly what the injustices are, the fact that they are out on the streets should be enough for they speak from the heart and are saying something is wrong. And though the media takes advantage of their weaknesses, and have said, you are not skilled in the art of composing your complaints in a form of verifyiable literature, therefore you must be fools! Their complaints shall not be in vain. Either this nation must change from its abominations, or else a greater doom shall manifest its ugly head.
I add a further spiritual insight, though many will choose not to believe, yet it will become apparrant, as it is written: those who will not come out of babylon shall partake of its plagues.
Now I know why you write for free.
rich people determine who they're gonna pay to work and what work needs to be done?
He could move out to the desert and live there for free -
marry russian woman and buy village property almost for free
mind the wind