Forum Post: Did Obama just concede the first debate?
Posted 11 years ago on Oct. 4, 2012, 1:52 a.m. EST by TheRazor
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I didnt see it, but callers to a balanced radio show were singular in staitng Romney clobbered Obama.
Romney came off far far more centrist (lies or not) than the majority of his batshit crazy party.
The Pres. did point out how Romney easily flops with the most extreme elements of his party. Hell. He picked one as his VP. That's what the Dems need to hammer on.
Even if - big big if - Romney is half sane, it doesn't matter. His party, his VP! - are the most extreme, anti-humane, privatize everything we can get our hands on, let Wall Street and large corps run amok trampling everything in their path to higher profits, exhault the wealthy with more government assistance, reverse womens rights to 50 years ago with a government so small it can own my uterus, turn our country into a theocratic nation state, screw the poor, wage more war, ALEC loving, kleptocracy loving screwballs this country has ever known. And these are just a few of the wonderful things the average person can look forward to with Republicans in power.
Dems cannot allow Mitt to try to distance himself from his own Toxic Extremist Batshit Crazy Party. Even if he is half sane. Mitt will do what the Paul Ryan Crazy Train tells him to do. Paul Ayn Rand Ryan is the defacto leader. Romney is just window dressing.
But yeah. I think Romney helped himself last night. The Pres. needs to be more aggressive with more more focus on the Party. To highlight the extremism of the Batshit Crazy Ones that are driving the Crazy Train and leading the Party. Because Romney is not their leader by any stretch of the imagination. He's just a passenger on the Crazy Train.
Yep, "Bat Shit Crazy" takes a surreptitious step closer to The Oval Office and perhaps consider that Obummer may be the best thing that American Electoralism could produce - and that tells you A Lot about American Electoralism. The US electoral system doesn’t work !!!
Given the amount of money involved in elections there’s probably no way for a third party to break through right now - unless it has billions of dollars. That doesn’t mean that people shouldn’t stand to get their agenda across but American Electoralism is very limited as it works according to the golden rule --- that the people who have the gold make the rules. !!
The way that Americans actually think of themselves and their country has been challenged by 'OWS'. Increasingly people feel their children will have a worse life than them and the idea that America’s best days are behind it is growing but this brings into sharper focus the fact that, when it comes to workers’ rights, they don’t have a defender in the electoral sphere !
'non semper erit aestas' ...
Even the other media outlets are reporting the CNN poll, whats up with THAT? CNN lost ALL credibility this week when that story came out about how CNN can be bought off by any government, even Bahrain, to run favourable stories and bury the bad stuff.
Maybe MittT'witt did out'Witt Obama in the debate, but CNN isn't the place to find that out.
Those old Obama debate blues
Harking back to early 2008, the president stays professorial, while Romney gets feisty – and dishonest
By Joan Walsh
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/04/those_old_obama_debate_blues/
ThinkProgress’ LiveBlog Of The First Presidential Debate
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/03/953591/thinkprogress-liveblog-of-the-first-presidential-debate/#lbu-1349316679
Obama didn't score much but didn't fumble and still has the ball. Mitt looked awesome, was on Mormon speed and scored at will with a doddering Lehrer, who seemed to have left his teeth at home. Fact checking should deny most of Mitts points. Will MSM report fact checks? And what will the ambivalent undecided think? These are more dead brain mysteries.
I feel roof racked.
What radio show?
It might depend on who was asked and how they were polled.
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2012/10/cnns-debate-polling-tracks-only-pre.html
Liberal press, my ass.
I watched on MSNBC and afterwards, Chris Mathhews was visibly furious about Obama's laid back approach.
ditto Jim Lehrer
Virtually everyone else agreed.
A focus group of "uncommitted" gave the win to R after explaining they were not sure about most of the claims and still undecided.
They seemed totally ignorant of the campaign before the debate.
Poor Chris Matthews! His hair piece was flopping around like a squirrel tail on top of his head. I thought the poor guy would bust his gut. And I was waiting for the squirrel tail to fly off into the camera lens.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/undecided-voter/1418227
All the media says Romney destroyed Obama, even the liberal media.
Question: why did Obama seem so disinterested?
I think he is trying to observe, keep his wits, and look presidential while avoiding flubs. Can't tell if he will ever really show any passion or improve. Last election someone said he had to avoid looking like an angry black man.????
Yes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212636/Team-Obama-concedes-defeat-Romney-carpet-bombing-debate-viewers-chance-real-Mitt.html
Obama got bitched slapped
It's a matter or perspective, certainly. What then is the perspective of this media?
The radio show i listened to post debate was Michael Brown/ David Sirota. Sirota is very liberal and he thought Romney won it by a mile. However he said you have to wait 24 hours for analysis.
so what did you think of the debate?
Well... I don't know if you've noticed but over the past few weeks, I believe, we've seen a media shift; I think they've lost faith.
Lost faith? You mean they have finally realized the guy they foisted on us has clay feet...and a clay pipe no doubt.
I, too have noticed a subtle shift in the media recently. They are no longer making excuses and spreading Obama's lies as freely as before.
Concession is hardly the word. Barry got his marxist, racist ,incompetent sorry ass handed to him. That's what happens when he has no teleprompter and a semi non partisan referee.
Obama was outclassed. It was an experienced CEO vs an inexperienced politician.
outclassed = outlied
Didn't Romney look self-righteous. I had a feeling that the Romeny camp talked to the Obama camp and came to some agreement not to step on each others words too much so that they could get part of their message out.
Agreements are funny things. As you say a CEO has had lots of meetings and he can talk Obama into looking presidential, acting thoughtful and rational, and then sort of feel like that is where he wants Obama to be.
I notice Romeny came back to center on a couple of issues. He made it clear that he didn't want any big changes in Medicare and ...Social Security ...and was claiming he wasn't going to raise taxes on MC and lower taxes on UC.
Of course, saying something is different from what happens. you can change taxes and then control the narrative to say no we didn't.
Hey, if Romney doesn't repect President Obama at All...then that would explain the smile or expression on his face (That I own you look).
Mitt was pushy and focused, but don't lies matter?
Yes Lies matter in most people's lives. Obama, uh, not so much.
Those old Obama debate blues
Harking back to early 2008, the president stays professorial, while Romney gets feisty – and dishonest
By Joan Walsh
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/04/those_old_obama_debate_blues/
ThinkProgress’ LiveBlog Of The First Presidential Debate
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/03/953591/thinkprogress-liveblog-of-the-first-presidential-debate/#lbu-1349316679
Obama didn't score much but didn't fumble and still has the ball. Mitt looked awesome, was on Mormon speed and scored at will with a doddering Lehrer, who seemed to have left his teeth at home. Fact checking should deny most of Mitts points. Will MSM report fact checks? And what will the ambivalent undecided think? These are more dead brain mysteries.
I feel roof racked.