Forum Post: Detroit: Turning Off the Power
Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 15, 2013, 12:15 p.m. EST by shoozTroll
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Still think "emergency managers" are no big deal??
Still think these people aren't the epitome of evil??
Think again.
I can't think of another time or place in history, when someone did something this mean and dangerous.
How about shutting of the electricity in a heat wave.........to "send a message"?
"On September 12th, 2013, Bill Nowling casually stated that the city’s power outages were intentional. Officials and citizens working in the city were given no warning before the electricity was cut off. Law enforcement officials working in the Hall of Justice had no time to prepare. Senior citizens and disabled citizens using elevators in the city’s downtown district had no way to know what was coming. The entire criminal justice system was shut down without notice. Wayne State University Campus was just one of many sites evacuated under emergency conditions. Traffic lights across the city stopped working. 1,400 public and private locations were left without power. And the entire thing was intentional, to “send a message” to the people of Detroit. Bill Nowling works in the office of Kevin Orr, Detroit’s Emergency Manager."
Sounds like we're not much better than a third world nation.
Yep - we can still drink most(?) of our water.
Right, most, but not all:
"Deadly Amoeba Found For First Time In Municipal Water Supply"
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/09/15/222197599/deadly-amoeba-found-for-first-time-in-municipal-water-supply
Or how about the mysterious encephalitis on college campus's. That documentary " Tapped " is also a real eye opener.
I'm intrigued by this. I have used a condensation unit for our water for the past several decades. The water would boil then drip back down, leaving many chemicals in its wake as evidenced by the hardened debris left behind.
The water had a nice, subliminally sweet taste to it. I could also easily tell the difference between the condensationed water and regular tap water. Over the past year, the formerly sweet, boiled water tastes like crap. I seem to recall reading that reconditioned water was being reinstated into the drinking water.
I assume in Los Angeles it has now been going on for at least a year.
That is very scary. This is why water should never be privatized. It should always be owned by the people and the people should have full knowledge of the make up of their water.
Hhmmmmm - one might think a handy little item to push for water privatizing?
Rather than updating the water grid. Hey?
Even if we were true, that's still no excuse for the kind of tyranny being imposed on Michigan and Detroit in particular.
It should be against the law, and, if it is not against the law, the law should be re-written.
They rewrote the laws to allow it in the first place.
ALEC played a heavy hand, before anyone knew who they were.
Most of the country was pre-conditioned to hate Detroit as well and thus Michigan, by proxy.
Since most of the country, doesn't give a shit.
Who's going to push to have those "laws" re-written?
The Koch's helped pay to make this way.
This is an example of why we need a new system, a total overhaul, shooz. Playing within this system is never going to work.
I really like the total overhaul idea myself, but here's a good weapon that's got the unnecessary corporations shitting:
Campaign for Local Power and more NewEraColorado on YouTube
Very, very nice. I love to see young people getting active. This is all about their future.
That's like asking for a whole new Planet. It's not going to happen that way.
Unraveling what's been done, will be difficult, but not impossible.
Assuming of course that you don't live anywhere near Michigan, ask your neighbor if they knew that power in Detroit was intentionally shut off during a heat wave.
Beginning the "overhaul" at the State level will bring us closer to our goals.
PS: Happy BDay!!!!
Happy Birthday, shooz!! Solidarity with you always.
I still think we need a total overhaul, but we can start smaller, I suppose, lol.
With things like this
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/18/michigan-claims-right-regulate-sexual-relationships/
still happening in the States.
Now IS the time.
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Utilities used as a Weapon, by TPTB.
That is VERY MUCH the TRUTH.
Punish, Terrorize, Isolate, Cover Up, Kill
Nevada1 be careful - that is one of their mantras. REAL TOXIC SHIT
Libe(R)topians. Just to use the more proper nomenclature.
Because in this case, like all the others, TBTF, actually has names.
Snyder is the big one here, and he is controlled in part by the Kochs.
Criminal Charges Anyone? TWEET
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Criminal Charges Any one? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/14/detroit-blackout/ …
Lives intentionally put at risk.
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Did anyone DIE ???
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The teabagge(R)s that be, are hardly finished. They are pushing through everything they can.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130918/NEWS06/309180135/food-stamps-welfare-community-service-drug
It'll be like mini Mississippi around here.
Oh, and don't forget, I already told you they would go after the worlds largest water distribution system and the first shots have now been fired.
http://www.freep.com/article/20130918/NEWS01/309180144/Water-Department-Kevyn-Orr-pension-debt
O - M - G the fuckers. corp(se)oRATions have got to be brought down. This For Profit Bullshit is destroying the world.
Gosh, you missed the other thing they pulled around here today?
I think I posted it in a different thread.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/09/michigan-attorney-general-schuette-marriage-is-for-regulating-sexual-relationships-to-make-babies.html
and that's just today on the Michigan teabagge(R) agenda.
How many months ago did post I a thread about how Michigan matters and I warned about these things?
Teabagging in the bedroom, ain't what it used to be.
Well the insane assholes are staying the course - SURPRISE ?? - ANYONE ??
If I were to claim that all of this is basically ALEC written, cookie cutter legislation, I would be further vilified on the forum.
But it is.
They've been at it for almost three years now.
Yep there is NO GOP NO Republican Party NONE - it is the corp(se)oRAT party - and they have been at it for decades.
ALEC, I said ALEC legislation.
Removing the puppet, doesn't change the puppeteer.
ALEC and any other such "bill mills" must be neutralized, and all of their legislation must be repealed, in part or in full. In all the States. Bar none.
Right - Corp(se)oRATist - legislation - charley & davey cock being principal funders.
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What did I say????
Take it easy ZD.........................:)
I've been warning about the attacks of the soap opera of the banned for a while now.
I'm sorry, they caught up with you.
BTW - I failed to note - does anyone know if this got any coverage by the MSM ?
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I didn't see it out there on the MSMnet, and I don't watch TV news.
It was a local story, that will be quickly buried.
Local with major significance for the State as well as the Nation.
Here's an interesting comment on real life trolls, within the movement.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18912-why-didnt-ows-transform-into-a-political-movement
Doing just what I said they do here, but in real life.
I really liked the interview.
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Why Didn't OWS Transform Into a Political Movement? http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/18912-why-didnt-ows-transform-into-a-political-movement …
REAL FOOD 4 THOUGHT
Do You Want to Understand?
It's Issues.
This is the part I was referring to.
" It was not only brute force. In meeting after meeting after meeting, there were clear infiltrators who were disrupting the discussions and making sure that no sustainable organizing practices could take hold. That was an incredibly significant problem."
Just like they've done here.
Absolutely - if anyone thinks that there are no infiltrators or attempts at infiltrating on this forum - They Would be sadly mistaken.
Still I wish in the interview that he could have mentioned the MSM as part of the tearing down process.
sometimes the youth forget the old still watch MSM
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the electricity went out
what did the people do ?
Nope.
You should have read the story.
It was shut off.
the people?
They regret living under tyranny that is completely ignored by folks that claim to be against tyranny.
So they try to get on with their lives.
in san diego, we all walked outside and talked with each other
When was the last time your "emergency manager" shut off the power to "teach you a lesson"?
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Bill Nowling is just one more scumbag Orr puppet. That is infuriating.
I'll be waiting for "duopolists" to show where left wingers did anything similar at all.
And lets not talk about the failed reservoirs in Colorado.
Reservoirs, that the GOPers refused funding to for repairs and improvements.
But they were "right" there when it came to stopping background checks for gun nutters.
More dead people, compliments of the GOP.
Shutting down power to sell it off? That is some of the most irresponsible shit that I have seen.
Hmmmmm reminds one of enron and the western states intentional rolling brown-outs to raise rates.
That's exactly what they did and since there were no repercussions for what they did, this imbecile did it again. He is a criminal and he should be nailed so hard that he thinks twice before fucking with the people. His name should be synonymous with shit.
Shit would be hurt by that comparison. But if ever there were a reason for a public flogging - this guy sure is begging for it.
Hell it might even be to much for the MSM to ignore - it bleeds it leads - boy talk about being torn - news black-out or ratings - non-coverage of significant events or ratings.
They don't have the guts to do it.
Flog the asshole ( the public ) or cover the event ( MSM ) ?
I'm thinking that a large number of the public would be enthused - quite enthused.
Cover the event.
I would wager that there are a lot of people willing to flog his ass.
AHHH - Hmmmm - guts to cover it? - or cowardace to cover it ( self preservation ) ? - as covering it would boost the ratings - but might well start a flood of similar actions across the country - eventually including the non-source.....em.....non-sense......damn.....the news spews.....well I think you get what I mean.
No repercussions? How do you figure that. The company went bankrupt and most of its executives went to jail. The forces of evil behind the ENRON debacle were three men, Chairman Ken Lay, CEO Jeffery Skilling and CFO Andrew Fastow. Skilling and Fastow are broke and in prison. Ken Lay died of a heart attack shortly before he was to report to prison. I’m not sure nut I think a few other ENRON insiders were charged with crimes.
I agree that Bill Nowling should be fired and charged with public endangerment.
and here I thought it was a need to pay shareholders for doing nothing but own stock
So, Tom Delay, Phil and Wendy Gramm went to prison?
I missed that part.......
OK, you got me this time. But Tom Delay might still go to prison for messing with campaign money. It's hard to believe, but I hate Tom Delay more than Rick Perry. I think there's some truth that Texan are a little arrogant. Delay and Perry are shining examples.
I doubt he sees it and if he does it will be chump time. It definitely doesn't do enough to scare someone like Issa or even Snyder. There are so many people tied into Team DeLay that need to go down in order to send a strong message.
I'm not so sure that Texas has the corner market on arrogance. Illinois could probably give Texas a run for the money.
Sheesh - and the employees got screwed on their holdings of the company stock as well as on the company retirement program - AND - OH - the company reorganizes and re-emerges as something else.
He skipped over the guy who got away with over $300,000,000 and lives in the Houston area too.
Just like he skipped over all those dead people in West Texas, who died from small government libe(R)tarianism's drive for no regulation.
I have learned not to expect much.
I've learned to expect much bullshit.
"Emergency managers" are sellouts to a refusal of Democracy in the first place.
The tyrannical, lazy way out.
"This would be so much easier, if it was a dictatorship"
---Rummy---
And so it came to be, in the state of Michigan.
I agree.
I also think that he just made himself and Orr look stupid AND made a few enemies in the process. I hope the piece of shit goes down in flames.
JUST What Exactly does it take to get these criminals arrested?
Maybe we should invite him to a singalong in Wisconsin?
Guaranteed blanket party? and roasting bal.....um marshmallows?
It may be the only way. Place him a place surrounded by good people fighting the good fight by singing and he is for sure going to jail.
The nights get chilly out here - lets get you all tucked-in in your brand new 20 below zero mummy-style sleeping bag - ahhh there ya go - snug as a bug in a rug - goodnight - ( thud ) ow ( bam ) oww ( pow ) OW ( sock ) ( kick ) ( punch ) heyyyowwwowwwowww..................
At Crystal Lake???? aAHAhahahaha
It's unlikely that the PR machine that put him in place will allow that.
No one cares about Detroit. It's been maligned for many years, leading up to the enforced tyranny of Gov. Snyder.
No one even notices.
He's shit. He should be remembered as such.
CATO grades him a "B", so that's unlikely,
http://www.areweawareyet.com/24672/cato-institute-gives-illinois-governor-the-pride-of-illinois-pat-quinn-with-an-f-grade-for-going-in-the-wrong-direction-on-fiscal-policy/
That wonderful libe(R)tarian Rick Scott, gets an "A" though.
How could anyone in their "right" mind, not see the reality of lilbe(R)topia?
Oh.....I answered my own question.
They really are of a "right" mind.
Calm down shooz. I agree with you this was a very bad idea. Bill Nowling should be arrested for endangering the public. I thought it odd that he works for Detroit’s emergency manager. Apparently he doesn’t have a clue about emergency management. I don’t give a flip what his political affiliation is, he put the public in danger and should be removed for his job.
However, to extend this to Colorado reservoirs and gun background checks is stupid. Your hate have consumed you. You see a evil conservative behind every bush. You blame everything that happens of conservatives. Joe McCarthy would be proud of you. I say stop the hate and look at the real world.
You should take your advice. Something to benefit the people is forwarded - and - GOP/Corp(se)oRATist/libertarian ROAD-BLOCK.
All I see, is that you didn't prove a thing.
It's you who needs to calm down.
It's hate that consumed you, to the point where you can no longer discern the truth.
The GOP did cut funding to those now failing reservoirs. It's what "small government" does.
It kills the innocent.
Just like NOT doing background checks for gun nutters.
You want to show me where conse(R)vatives have advanced anything at all??
BTW, Joe was a conse(R)vative.
On the other hand
Rick is very proud of you.
Because You don't look a thing in the real world beyond what Rick tells you about Texas.
Which you also refuse to see the reality of.
And that's about as stupid as stupid can be.
Now go ahead and express some more of your HATE for Detroit.
It's all you can do to stick up for your lies about Texas.
Jeez shooz, I was agreeing with you that Bill Nowling should be fired. You can't even accept someone agreeing with you without going off half cocked. I'm pretty sure you have an anger problem. Get some help. please.
Agreed with me????
"Calm down shooz."
"to extend this to Colorado reservoirs and gun background checks is stupid"
"Your hate have consumed you."
"You see a evil conservative behind every bush"
"Joe McCarthy would be proud of you"
These are not words of agreement. Quite the opposite.
Were you taught otherwise?
This "event" is not simply an indictment of the man.
It's an indictment of the Snyder/GOP/conser(R)vative/libe(R)tarian tyranny, instituted in Michigan and other States.
Something which you have completely ignored.
Now, let's hear all your HATE for Detroit again, and then tell me how I'm the hater.
You're full of shit.
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Shooz, you're a cyber bully. All you do is attack people. Whenever anyone doesn't fit your narrow view of the world you start belittling them, calling names and trolling them. How about you just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. Deal?
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I'm not the one lying about Texas.
That's you.
You attacked Detroit and the UAW with lies.
You really won't even comment on the full impact and implications what just happened in Detroit.
That would make You the bully, not me.
I provided proof in all instances.
You provided lies and personal attacks.
Once again making YOU the bully.
So no.
I will not allow your lies and personal attacks to go unchallenged.
Nor will I allow you to play a game of turnabout.
There is no view more narrow than yours.
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Link to story the article is linking:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23415960/what-is-the-cause-of-detroits-power-outage
Shoes is citing FOX. Oh boy, here we go....
Fux spews really?
Here maybe you can find something you like better:
DTE Begins Rotating Blackouts In Ferndale « CBS Detroit detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/dte-rolling-blackouts-possible
Today's record heat has led DTE Energy to begin an intentional rolling power blackout in at least one Metro Detroit community.
DTE Plans Intentional Power Outage « CBS Detroit detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/12/22/dte-plans-intentional-power-outage
DETROIT (WWJ) - Several thousand Detroit residents will be without power for about six hours next month. DTE Energy plans to blackout the neighborhood between Six and ...
infowars - » Blackouts Kill People in Detroit as Heat Soars Alex ... www.infowars.com/blackouts-kill-people-in-detroit-as-heat-soars
The excessive heat and higher electrical demand has led DTE Energy to begin intentional rolling blackouts in one ... It would be easy to blame Detroit Edison and ...
Just sickening. "Emergency Manager" in Detroit caused blackout ... www.democraticunderground.com/10023669148
Sep 14, 2013 · The blackouts are intentional. ... "Just sickening. "Emergency Manager" in Detroit caused blackout during heatwave to teach a lesson ...
Keep in mind - the asshole killed people - on purpose.
Libe(R)tarian teabagge(R)y!!
It's just what the Koch's ordered.
Homicide charges ought to be filed on the asshole - families should sue.
Apparently, the office of the EM is immune to prosecution.
Wasn't that the point of the tyranny of Snyder?
It'll be another important story kept from the major news outlets.
Democide ( murder by government ) is not defensible! Though one might well get that impression - by looking at the world at this very point in time.
Somebody's dog was killed by a snake in Florida.
That's much more important news.
It was a pretty big snake, but nowhere near as big a snake than the GOP.
Plus a real snake, can't help it.
A snake in the grass? Huh - appropriate symbol ( accidental ? ) for the current GOP/Corp(se)oRATists.
Yep. The United Snakes ALEC!
& Heritage & Cato & Americans for prosperity ( HAH load a crap ) & &
And just for your lying "ass".
Here it is from another source.
We already know that you support "emergency managers".
Just like your buddy Rick.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/09/detroits-dictatorial-admin-intentionally-cut-power-during-heat-wave-stranding-people-in-elevators.html
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I'm sure Roger will be looking into shutting that reporter down.
In other GOP news.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/06/16/more-bill-republicans-blocked/
Pretty sure that's a sign of the apocalypse. Don't argue it with him or his head might explode like that dude in Scanners.
TD ? I suppose that is possible.
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Talking to yourself?
I know - Right? Shill slapping is quite the busy project - Hey? Man do they swarm on OWS/Occupy action days or what? It's almost - as if - it - Dun Dun DUNN - were planed.
The good news is we get overtime because it's a Sunday.
Hell - I don't charge for slappin shills!!! The time is all cheerfully donated.
No stupid, we shills are getting paid overtime. Thank the union for that. Nobody would pay you to post.
Ya, we found you
LOL - but too cute.
We got him here, too
aAHAhahahaha - trying to cash a check from shill-check? SLAM goes the window. eheeheehehehe..........
Ya, Mr. Craig's List Troll for Hire seems to have run into a problem or two.
Too Bad - So Sad ;-(......... NOT. {:-])
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Corp(se)oRATions would not allow you to have a union - they would just let you sellouts go ( right to work ) and get a whole new batch probably for less money and no benefits either.
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