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Forum Post: Democrats and Republicans Still Shipping Jobs Out- Why are We Supporting This System?

Posted 10 years ago on July 24, 2013, 1:41 p.m. EST by TikiJ (-38)
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http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/6/obama_backed_trans_pacific_partnership_expands

Wow. They just wont stop. And why would they? 95% re-election rate.

So how dumb are we?

This according to HuffPo from late 2011 (during the biggest movement we have seen in a while.. until those very people shut it down)

"Obama's move is a brazen display of contempt for the Occupy Wall Street movement's calls for jobs, economic, and environmental justice as well as human rights. These trade agreements achieve a rare trifecta of progressive punching: it's hard to imagine a single initiative that at one time could so infuriate anti-corporate activists, labor unions, and environmentalists at the very moment that these disparate movements are finally finding solidarity and support in the streets."

So after that trifecta of a screwing, they are now going for total immunity for the corps. Absolutely removed from all justice.

Just like the frackers, just like Monsanto, just like Big Pharma.

But with this one, its a big sweep across the entire globe. The mother of all union and job screwers.

This one will put GATT and NAFTA to shame.

The Dems and Reps apparently aren't happy with what they have already done to cities like Detroit....

They want more, more more...

Puttin Billy Idol to shame!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwZaQfoIbU

:^)

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[-] 2 points by forourfutures (393) 10 years ago

Not dumb enough to forget diebold.

[-] 1 points by TroubledMind (10) 10 years ago

Don't blame me. I stopped voting for members of either the Republican or Democrat party since 2008. I still vote in as many elections as I can, but I vote for either third party candidates or leave the candidate selections empty if no third party candidate is available.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

That's precisely how (R)epelicant's stack the judicial benches.

No vote......is generally a vote for the "conservative" candidate.

Google Paul Weyrich and look for his speech for ALEC.

[-] 1 points by cruisecontrol (-49) 10 years ago

Au Contraire SHooz. In Indiana, the 3rd party dude got enough votes for Senator to give the Dem Donnelly the seat.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

A third party isn't a "no" vote.

Did you look up Paul yet?

Also , this was about stacking State SCOTUS. Which way does Indiana lean?

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Over 50% of the population doesnt participate in this garbage system.

How can you say a no vote is a "conservative" vote.

The majority of the people would never endorse any of these slimeballs.

How you keep clinging to the ones with a D after their name is beyond me. Well, the votes they make dont count I guess either, right?

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 years ago

Paul Weyrich.

You keep skipping over that part.

Since you won't follow my links, it may also have been linked to in someone else's post.

You should look him up.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

this is the $60,000 question. people are so blinded by my team, their team ,they can't see that both teams are owned by the same owners. my aunt for example still likes clinton, still. after all this time and knowing he sold america out to the globalists. people are dumb, ignorant, and stupid by and large and well it's time we forgot about them and realized every revolution has an intellectual base that pushes the ideas forward through conflict with the status quo. this is why the 99% slogan is dumb as fuck. 99%???? laughable at best it's the .00001% vs. .01%. it's the handful of people running the world vs. the handful of people who are smart enough to see what is happening and brave enough to disregard jail, beatings, torture, and murder and believe me the state will use all 4 against us. they are gearing up. they have orders never to allow another occupy resurgence.

[-] 1 points by summerbummer (-33) 10 years ago

Amen. myblood. Less filling/tastes great. Dems/Reps. A sideshow to keep us from uniting against the .001%. Just look at the Amash Amendment vote to curtail NSA. Pelosi and Boehner voted NO

[-] -1 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

they have orders never to allow another occupy resurgence

Truth.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 10 years ago

so in order to prove our point we must reoccupy at all costs.

[-] -2 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

re occupying has been and is currently still proving to be quite difficult.

The media did a very good job of slander and libel.

[-] 0 points by mideast (506) 10 years ago

I was there
100+ OWS meetings

we did it to ourselves -
with no leaders
with consensus
with no clear plan
with no clear ACHIEVABLE goals

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss, Bensdad, we all know you wanted to partner with the Dems...

Let it go.

The Dem campaign headquarters are in every city. Nothing was stopping anyone from volunteering before, nothing afterwards.

Your constant desire for this is going directly against the will of the people.

What about "to hell with them all" dont you understand?

PS- from someone who states he has never been to a Dem campaign headquarter, to then say that is the way out, is a bit strange.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Columbia Free Trade deal shows how the duopoly works.

Only need to lobby a few on either side to get what you want every time.

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/senate/1/163

This system sucks.

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 10 years ago

Duopoly support of free trade deal with Panama.

Of course Levin (MI) and Nelson (F) endorsed it. Why would we expect any different?

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Old news and dumb post!

I covered it almost 2 months ago: http://occupywallst.org/forum/tpp-corporate-power-tool-of-the-1/

Do you and your dimwitted clown cynics have ANY answers, or just criticism? Tell us how you don't see the vast differences between the only two viable parties? And tell us how you are making third parties viable?

Forgetting (genuine or feigned) (or, in your case, just never knowing) how we got here & who brung us, that the POTUS "proposes" and Congress "disposes," that our form of government is "democracy" NOT "autocracy," that without public (99%) participation democracy gets exploited by (1%) tyrants, that elections are NOT just held every four years, seems epidemic, is by design and a huge victory for the 1% and their class war on the rest of us.

The United States Is Awash in Public Stupidity, and Critical Thought Is Under Assault ~ this Forum is a Microcosm.

"People who remember court madness through pain, the pain of the perpetually recurring death of their innocence; people who forget court another kind of madness, the madness of the denial of pain and the hatred of innocence." - James Baldwin

Learning to Forget

America has become amnesiac - a country in which forms of historical, political, and moral forgetting are not only willfully practiced but celebrated. The United States has degenerated into a social order that is awash in public stupidity and views critical thought as both a liability and a threat. Not only is this obvious in the presence of a celebrity culture that embraces the banal and idiotic, but also in the prevailing discourses and policies of a range of politicians and anti-public intellectuals who believe that the legacy of the Enlightenment needs to be reversed. Politicians such as Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich along with talking heads such as Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck and Anne Coulter are not the problem, they are symptomatic of a much more disturbing assault on critical thought, if not rationale thinking itself. Under a neoliberal regime, the language of authority, power and command is divorced from ethics, social responsibility, critical analysis and social costs.

CONTINUED: http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-violence-of-organized-forgetting-specious-cyni/

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[-] -2 points by Stormcrow8 (-2) from Jersey City, NJ 10 years ago

Ask the 65% of the people in this country who buy at Wally World. Think maybe there isn't any more "loyalty" towards this country anymore?

That kind of attitude sure in hell makes a difference when it comes to a country being able to grow. Lots of "give a shit" attitudes in this country so I guess they have to "deal with it".

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 years ago

The fucking libertopians will save us.