Forum Post: Corporatists, Fascists, Liberals, Libertarians, Anarchists, Conservatives....
Posted 10 years ago on May 31, 2013, 5:25 p.m. EST by OTP
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At the end of the day, no one will claim to be a Corporatist or a Fascist. They will claim to be a liberal, a conservative. Claiming to be a libertarian seems to be the new thing.
But in the end, when actions are judged, what do we have most accurately?
We have Corporatism. 100%. Its a word you dont hear in the MSM. Its a word that you hear A LOT at occupy events.
Most Americans dont understand it.... yet. They are still of the mindset that someone "is" what they say they are.
Mitt is no conservative. Obama is no liberal. The Kochs are no libertarians.
Corporatism- the ability to reduce regualtions on the multinationals while increasing regulations on everyone else. Sound familiar? Seem like thats whats going on here?
We have Wall St literally stealing the people;s money, while the people are getting more and more fees from the banks on their own money.
Monsanto is getting waivers to do whatever they want, while the restrictions on small grocers keeps increasing.
The oil companies keep getting their way, and their subsidies keep increasing, while anyone in the alternative start up field is getting fucked with regulations.
Banks are openly getting busted for drug trading, while the prisons continue to fill with more people.
The establishment keeps getting fed more money for campaigns, while the fees and paperwork for indies keeps going up.
Big business keeps getting the perks while small businesses are going out at record levels.
This is what is going on. Its why we occupy. Anyone who wont talk about corporatism either doesnt understand it, or is blatantly misleading you.
http://www.occupycorporatism.com/
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyGoldmanSachs
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People blaming liberals. people blaming conservatives. Even a few now blaming libertarians.
When was the last time someone hear the word fascism or corporatism in the MSM?
Whoa......!!!
That's a sexopoly!!
Can we go for a septopoly?
Can you say?
The Koch brothers are libe(R)tarians?
There was no point in starting a separate thread to escape it........again.
You've already skipped over all the links I've provided to prove it to you.
So just say it, and get it over with.
You know you should.
^ prime example
This poster is trying to avoid the truth because that is not part of "their" plan. Very obvious, I know.
Just of YOU avoiding the truth.
It was in the link, in thread you're avoiding by posting this thread.
Would you like me post it again here??
Occupy Oakland disagrees with you. Almost every occupy disagrees with you.
Because you are wrong.
http://occupyoakland.org/tag/corporate-fascism/
You never utter the word corporatism for a reason.
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17960-the-biggest-takers-and-societal-parasites-are-the-rich-not-the-working-class-and-poor
C'mon say it.
The Koch brothers are libe(R)tarians.
You sound desperate. I'll keep feeding you links that prove you wrong.
Occupy Buffalo:
""The second rally of Occupy Buffalo was held on Oct 8 and its message was anti-corporatism, anti big banks, and anti-Wall Street""
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17960-the-biggest-takers-and-societal-parasites-are-the-rich-not-the-working-class-and-poor
What you post has nothing to so with this.
There've been many more posted over the months.
You just ignored them.
Pity.
Now back on subject.
The Koch's are libe(R)tarians.
I thought this was occupy, not an editor from truthouts site.
Here ya go: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x793602
Are you lying or just uneducated? Or did you USED to be a libertarian?
I'm so sorry you skipped the post I offered from Noam on libe(R)tarians.
But then you've denied Rands influence all along.
And please. Your insults are getting tiresome.
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Corporatism is running the country.
Go to an occupy event. Get educated. Stop trying to brainwash everyone here, you are embarrassing yourself and the entire site.
Corporations, run by libe(R)tarians.
Here.
Read it this time instead of avoiding it.
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17960-the-biggest-takers-and-societal-parasites-are-the-rich-not-the-working-class-and-poor
You like Kos articles, here ya go:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/13/1083202/-Understanding-The-Nature-of-The-U-S-Corporatist-Fascism#
The Koch brother's are libe(R)tarians.
What you post is off subject and NOTHING to do with that simple fact.
In fact. It's a distraction from that simple fact.
And I guess it means you disagree with the statement.
here.
http://truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/item/17960-the-biggest-takers-and-societal-parasites-are-the-rich-not-the-working-class-and-poor
The Kochs are coporatists just like the rest of em.
The fact you dont realize this is because you dont go to occupy events and you havent had anyone explain it to you.
We wont give up on you.
Will you at least admit that they are leading the charge of dumbing down the system, with the help of ALEC?
Noam knows.
"Falcone: Do we as a nation have a reason to fear an assault on public education and the complete privatization of education?
Chomsky: It's part of the way of controlling and dumbing down the population, and that's important. Much has to do with the catastrophe that's looming, mainly environmental catastrophe. It's very serious. It's not generations from now; it's your children and your grandchildren. And the public is pretty close to the scientific consensus. If you look at polls, it will say it's a serious problem; we've got to do something about it. Government doesn't want to, and the corporate sector not only doesn't want to, it's strongly opposed to it. So now, take for example ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. It's corporate funded, the Koch brothers and those guys. It's an organization which designs legislation for states, for state legislators. And they've got plenty of clout, so they can get a lot of it through. Now they have a new program, which sounds very pretty on the surface. It's designed to increase "critical thinking." And the way you increase critical thinking is by having "balanced education." "Balanced education" means that if you teach kids something about the climate, you also have to teach them climate change denial. It's like teaching evolution science, but also creation science, so that you have "critical thinking."
All of this is a way of turning the population into a bunch of imbeciles. That's really serious. I mean, it's life and death at this point, not just making society worse."
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/16651-noam-chomsky-on-democracy-and-education-in-the-21st-century-and-beyond
Let your denial begin anew.
If it were up to me people like them would be removed from society.
The Koch brothers are the epitome of fascism. They are the epitome of everything that is wrong with this world today.
You still can't quite manage to do it.
You just can't admit it.
The Koch's are libe(R)tarians.
They are a major part of the problem.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/174608/koch-influence#
Know that and move on.
"Will you at least admit that they are leading the charge of dumbing down the system, with the help of ALEC?"
Even when I give you an answer, one that you are in agreement with, you just have to keep up the attacks.
If you're going to quote me, at least use the quote of what I asked you to admit.
This is necessary, because you didn't actually admit it. Instead, you changed the subject., even ignoring the additional information I provided.
Oh and.....
BTW, The Koch's are libe(R)tarians, it's in the name of the party they founded as well as many of the think tanks they also founded.
How come they dontated to Mitt then and not Gary Johnson?
Perhaps you two both went through the same transformation.
You became a mindless Democrat. They became mindless Republicans?
Murdoch donated to Obama. Does that make him a Democrat?
I know real Democrats and Republicans. Mitt and Obama are neither.
We just arent quite sure what you are, yet.
Would you change the subject, yet again??
Yep. You would.
BTW: Who's this ominous, threatening "WE" you speak of?
Should I be in fear?
BTW 2 http://occupywallst.org/forum/34-to-1/
Just a small taste of reality you won't hear at prisonplanet.
(C)orporatists. Fas(C)ists.
Most libertarians I know hate them. Just like most liberals I know hate Obama.
Chomsky's wrong then?????
I ask this, if only because your continued attempts to change the subject.
Chomsky: It's part of the way of controlling and dumbing down the population, and that's important. Much has to do with the catastrophe that's looming, mainly environmental catastrophe. It's very serious. It's not generations from now; it's your children and your grandchildren. And the public is pretty close to the scientific consensus. If you look at polls, it will say it's a serious problem; we've got to do something about it. Government doesn't want to, and the corporate sector not only doesn't want to, it's strongly opposed to it. So now, take for example ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. It's corporate funded, the Koch brothers and those guys. It's an organization which designs legislation for states, for state legislators. And they've got plenty of clout, so they can get a lot of it through. Now they have a new program, which sounds very pretty on the surface. It's designed to increase "critical thinking." And the way you increase critical thinking is by having "balanced education." "Balanced education" means that if you teach kids something about the climate, you also have to teach them climate change denial. It's like teaching evolution science, but also creation science, so that you have "critical thinking." All of this is a way of turning the population into a bunch of imbeciles. That's really serious. I mean, it's life and death at this point, not just making society worse."
I agree with this 100%. Very few things I disagree with Dr Noam about.
The fact that you dont realize this by now shows how effective the dumbing down has been.
You're so good at missing the point, you've become legend.
The Koch's are libertarians.
You might not like to admit it, but they don't care.
Here's the Chomsky stuff you've ignored.........again.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/chomsky-on-libertarians/
PS I will remember you agreed with this, the next time you try and minimize what ALEC has done and is sill doing.
Occupy LA disagrees with you:
http://occupylosangeles.org/node/2291