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Forum Post: Cornel West Explains Why It Bothers Him That Obama Will Be Taking The Oath w/ MLKs Bible

Posted 1 year ago on Jan. 21, 2013, 8:12 p.m. EST by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA
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[-] 4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I like Cornel West. I really do.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

I love Newt's expression in the background :)

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Ya. That was fun.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

He's great.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I agree. I have several of his books.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

My favorite quote of his: "Justice is what love looks like in public.". You'd enjoy this video of one of his speeches if you haven't seen yet:

One of the most dynamic speeches I've ever witnessed. Important to watch all three parts. I recommend beginning the first section at "4:38" on the youtube clock (skips the introductions / thank you's :) . Enjoy.

part 1 of 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjZydhfUxqs (start at 4:38 to skip introductions)

part 2 of 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTOfjle-fK4&feature=related

part 3 of 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH1uxEMoBMY&feature=related

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

lol moral constipation.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

Yes!! Yes. He nails it. :)

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

That was great. Thanks.

[-] 2 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

Glad you enjoyed.

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 1 year ago

Cool, that was the third show I heard on Alternative Radio. Listened to it 3 times I think. It was the first time I heard of him... just last year.

[-] 1 points by therising (6643) 1 year ago

Definitely great stuff

[-] 1 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 1 year ago

K well it wasn't exactly the same show but lots of the same content. Good stuff.

[-] 1 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

I'm somewhat familiar with some of the things he talks about. Watched a few speeches here and there...but haven't read any of his books or really dug into his theories yet.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

If I was a betting woman than I would lay money that you are more familiar with him than you give yourself credit for. CRT originated with Derrick Bell and legal studies (institutional racism, etc.) in the 70s and 80s. I didn't read Dr. West until the 90s and I don't think that I had even started college yet. If I had then I was head deep in gender issues. By the time that I had gotten to the courses that were inline with my degree (at the time) CRT had taken an interdisciplinary approach.

The point that I am trying to make is that CRT is like part of an ongoing larger conversation. So, if you are familiar with diversity, multiculturalism, race, gender, socioeconomic status and how this shapes someone's world view it isn't going to be something radical.

I think that Texas rewriting history and Tucson's school district banning books and programs are 100% backlashes by some very misguided individuals that are hell bent on ending that discussion and the success that has come from it.

[-] 1 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

Cool...he's on my "to read" list now. Any recommendations on which book to start off with?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Race Matters and the Future of the Race are good. Democracy Matters is good if you want something current.

[-] 2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

Thanks.

[-] 0 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

gender issues? multiculturalism = silliness , same with diversity.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Is that right? Do tell.

[-] -1 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

yes dearie , thats right. social engineering for mush brains.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

That is interesting. Please share how you arrived at this conclusion.

[-] 0 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

"diversity" ensures people being in a job because of ethnicity, not merit. please explain, what are your " gender issues"?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

aville said 20 minutes ago at Jan. 22, 2013, 7:06 p.m. EST (delete) a person should be hired for a job because they are the most qualified for the position, NOT because they fill some phoney p.c. slot.


Diversity is much broader. Again, If you cannot grasp the broadness of diversity, then what makes you think that you have any value as an employee and, especially, if that job deals with the public?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28308) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

GF - you are gonna confuse it.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I don't think so. It already was confused.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28308) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

OH - OK - giving it what it knows ( now I'm confused - as it seems to know nothing ) so that it does not get frightened - how gentle.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Well, the mind set that he/she is exhibiting only works well in a little factory with little to no contact with anyone else or if you don't hold a job outside of the home. It doesn't work well interacting with the larger world.

I think that it's a sham anyway.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28308) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

LOL - Be prepared - I was a boyscout.


[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (12133) 0 minutes ago

I think it might be done for the day. But, I'm gearing up. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28308) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The argument offered? By It? No doubt. Just another attempt at distraction. Are ya gonna use the 2x4 now? Can I watch?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I think it might be done for the day. But, I'm gearing up.

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[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

"diversity" ensures people being in a job because of ethnicity, not merit.

How so?

Edited for: Can you think of any areas where diversity is beneficial?

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[-] 0 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

No areas. still didnt answer what your " gender issues" are.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

If you cannot grasp the broadness of diversity, then what makes you think that you have any value as an employee and, especially, if that job deals with the public?

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[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

how do feel about jeremiah wright? , louis farakhan?

[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

and you probably ascribe to the critical race theory too.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Is this a problem for you?

[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

crt is garbage, but if you believe it,.......that makes you,........................

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Why is it garbage?

[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

go read up on crt. obama adheres to it. its racist garbage.

[-] 3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

How so?

[-] 0 points by cJessgo (729) from Port Jervis, PA 1 year ago

Maybe I do not get it.I know there are many legitamate beefs in todays society.This has to be one of the most trivial I have seen in a while.The end of the saftey nets,Dustruction of a planet.No future for a younger generation.And than a diet of this crybaby crap about a bible.Who is pulling my dick on this that we have a real topic here?

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

I think Cornel is an ignorant hypocrite. Nice guy, but quite ignorant.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

So, you've met him then? Why would you think he is an ignorant hypocrite? Do tell.

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

He is a socialist, christian, transcendentalist. These are very contradctary beliefs, especially if you claim to adhere to all of them.

I have not personally met him, but he seems like a nice person. Nice doesnt equal smart all the time though.