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Forum Post: Congressman Denies Manmade Climate Change

Posted 3 months ago on April 16, 2014, 2:58 a.m. EST by shooz (17964)
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[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

ya know - it occurs to me . . . real estate interests in FLA must represent a significant financial investment . . .

It will be interesting to see how the inevitable law suits play out. And they will play out.

Just as they did with tobacco .

Once the market share on energy production held by fossil fuels begins a serious and irreversible decline, They will be fuked.

All of their wealth will most certainly be siphoned off as compensation to those most directly harmed by the rising seas, a certain consequence of inaction.

Inaction which comes at their own insistence.

They are so fuked.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024829318

That should give you yet another laugh.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

that's not funny. That is breath taking.

The image suggests he is on the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

So which is crazier? the fact people voted for him? or his committee assignment . . .

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

I can only answer....yes......:)

Dumb people in high places, are bad for all of us.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

I don't believe anybody that can get out of bed and tie their own shoes is quite that stupid - more likely drunk off his ass. Had a few too many cocktails at lunch I'm sure.

but yes - it's terrible for all of us - and drives me just a bit nuts.

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[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

I can tell there’s climate change. The cause? I’m not smart enough for that.

Someone really should thank him for clarifying the obvious . . .

I don't suppose it will help to point out to him that his most ardent supporters really don't care if Florida ceases to exist in 100 years . . . something that is almost certain if nothing changes.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

He's in Florida? I hadn't noticed, although it figures.

Welp, since like most of his ilk, he doesn't believe in any science that he doesn't agree with, perhaps some reality from geologists would be of help?

http://www.anthropocene.info/en/home

Thus, if man is ambitious enough to affect the planet to the point of a new epoch, he might be able to understand that we could also affect our thin as a apple skin atmosphere.

But then......he is in Florida, and judging buy the Floridians I've met around here, there's only a razor thin chance of him accepting reality.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

can we stay below 2 degree increase?

not likely

[-] 1 points by grapes (2765) 3 months ago

Yes, 2C is most certainly becoming a pipe dream of world "leaders." Even if 350.org changing to 400.org and holding it there would be nothing short of the greatest miracle of all time.

Carbon dioxide trapping heat works the same way inside of a laboratory as outside of it in nature. That is the fundamental idea in science that things work the same way no matter where they are. There may be mitigating factors in nature but counting on them amounts to utter stupidity.

Yeah, right, all ye faithful, pray for manna to descend from heaven to feed all of the world's hungry people. It never worked but I tell all ye faithful that the loaf of bread that I put into a hungry's hands worked!

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

4 out of 5 people world wide face risk to their water security

suddenly I am painfully aware that 900 rounds is no where near enough ammo . . .

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

we move more sediment and rock annually than all natural processes

I don't claim to be surprised, but that is impressive.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Anthropocene !!! How cool is that!?! I don't care if it has been formally accepted or not. We can simply create its acceptance via common usage.

  • Everyone please return to your seats and fasten your seat belts. We are now leaving the Holocene and the ride may get a bit bumpy . . .
[-] 1 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

I thought you might like that. It's too bad you couldn't see Years of Living Dangerously.

Don't worry about the day-glo orange life preserver. It won't save you.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

I'm sure I would like it. Sitting down to watch controversial science is fun, I get all warm and fuzzy just knowing that with my own behavior I get to thumb my nose at conservative Koch whores . . .

it gives me goose bumps.

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[-] 1 points by grapes (2765) 3 months ago

Well, well, he has one of those personal-service snow jobs created in the South. Florida will shrink and sink, no surprise there right with all of that methane snow under Florida?

[-] 1 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

OK?

Meanwhile, back on libe(R)topia.

The refrain of "lets keep the water black", is sung by all the States rights advocates.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/04/16/3363281/states-block-chesapeake-cleanup/

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Earlier this year, a group of 21 Attorneys General from states as far away from the Chesapeake Bay as Alaska and Wyoming submitted an amicus brief that aims to strike down the EPA’s Chesapeake cleanup plan. The AGs argue that the cleanup plan raises serious concerns about states’ rights, and they worry that if the plan is left to stand, the EPA could enact similar pollution limits on watersheds such as the Mississippi.

“This is one of the great examples of people working together across federal, state, local business and agriculture, and it’s working, and outsiders are coming in to try to stop it,” William Baker, President of the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, said. “It’s absolutely bizarre.”

this is absolutely outrageous. Who do we have to kill . . . ?

[-] 1 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

States rights, because........ummmmmm.

Libe(R)topians told us so, and they got all the money.

So look!

Over there!!

WAaaaaaashington........

Especially, that guy at the top.

Don't look here.

http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/oklahoma-prohibits-cities-from-waging-the-minimum-wage-while-voting-in-tax-credits-for-investors

Or here.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/04/16/67094.htm

Not here either.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/16/mo-mayor-agrees-with-kc-shooter-glenn-miller-that-jewish-bankers-destroying-us/

and remember the Koch's paid good money to convince you they have nothing to do with it.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/5050/meredith-tax/climate-change-and-false-gods-moloch-and-biblepunchers-in-us

But don't worry, they have nothing but the noblest of aims.

There own profit, and the SCOTUS just said that. that's all that matters.

oh, and don't notice that one of their cronies made it so, with help from the Koch's many 'charity foundations".

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

you know what? I'm all for not raising the minimum wage in red states. I'm all for it.

Shouldn't be too long at all, and there won't be any red states.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

When will they ever learn?

http://www.occupy.com/article/rand-pauls-libertarianism-fails-millennials-least-10-reasons

Libe(R)tarians always fail the collective. Every single time.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Rand Paul’s brand of libertarian believes that “liberty” is freedom from an oppressive government. But in a democracy the government is us. The real oppressors in today’s economic and political system are the corporations which increasingly dominate all aspects of our public and private lives.

and herein the heart of the issue is revealed: this is all about freedom and freedom from oppression.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Paul’s play for millennials was almost inevitable. As a recent Pew study reported, that generation’s disaffection with the two-party system appears to be at record levels. Fifty percent of millennials polled said that they do not associate themselves with either party, which is the highest percentage recorded thus far. It’s also a 10 point jump from their equivalent age group’s level of political affiliation only seven years ago.

wow. That would, I am sure, be a measure of the success of OWS.

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[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

It also demonstrates the confusion of libe(R)tarianism.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

I think I'm hearing you say something to the effect that Paul and his associated Paulites are somehow confused - and I don't think that's accurate. I think, at least among the Libertarian strategists - that they are perfectly aware of the confusion and its basic nature. I'm sure they are aware they are highly dependent on that confusion even among their own base - and that's probably what you were referring to, is their base of support among the public.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

Welp, their fearless, curmudgeonly leaders, are crying that no one understands them.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/04/03/3422514/orwellian-op-ed-charles-koch-2/

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

LoL! Kock and Al Capone!

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

Yeah-ya - not surprised. I've heard repelicans are a nervous lot.

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

Some of these people think they should actually be paid!!

The nerve.

So they send in breitbart to argue against it.

https://occupywallst.org/forum/sawant-vs-breitbart/

With more to come.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/17-3

How much have the Koch's spent against the minimum wage?

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

wow - if the spin that article presents is accurate it makes me think two things - and the first is that, baring any setbacks to Sawant and her agenda, it seems likely that the long game conservatives will ultimately apply is to begin moving their companies out of Seattle. They might set up shop in Texass for example.

And that brings me to the second point, which is that to really defeat these kinds of conservative strategies we really need a close examination of how Sawant achieved her success in Seattle and attempt to replicate that success in a large number of other communities - as many as possible without wasting resources - with the purpose of impacting the federal legislature to such an extent that Congress . . .

can begin passing punitive measures to counter against any forms of scorched earth policies implemented by corporations as a response to public backlash against a wide variety of their bullshit

[-] 0 points by shooz (17964) 3 months ago

No one here understands the importance of re-securing the States that have been co-opted, or are in process.

The threads on Detroit and Michigan, were met mostly by trolls.

Right now they are attempting to so what I said they would try and so a long time ago.

They are after the water system. the largest in the world, and it's owned and operated by the city of Detroit.

It's been in the top 10 in purity for a long time. No profit in that.

Can you say profiteering?

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[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13646) from South Burlington, VT 3 months ago

fukin Kurt Wright advocated selling Burlington Electric which has been owned by the city for 100 years, and it's the cheapest electric rates in the state.

how the fuk can someone claiming to represent the people stand up and advocate something like that?

Every time I see that schmuck I really want to stuff a pen right in his neck.

and give it a twist.

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