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Forum Post: Clintons Posturing on DOMA

Posted 1 year ago on June 26, 2013, 8:05 p.m. EST by TikiJ (-38)
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http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/26/19156331-clintons-hail-doma-ruling?lite

So at the age of 65 they realized things they didnt at the age of 50? Very very very simple things like basic human rights?

Politics 101.

Celebrate this overturning. There is no reason feasible to deny those seeking to have a family with the current state of marriage in this country.

Freedom doesnt get to pick and choose. You dont get to choose which parts you like and which ones you dont. Its either a free society or not.

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[-] 1 points by DebtSUSPENSIONRights (181) 1 year ago

I think the gay marriage issue was unnecessarily turned into high drama.

Just ask one simple question, what is the difference between an infertile heterosexual couple and a gay couple. There isn't any. So whatever rights are granted to the infertile heterosexual couple should also be granted to gay couples.

But for some strange reason, the gay movement went after fertile heterosexual couples, claiming that a fertile heterosexual marriage was no different than a gay marriage.

I find the high drama that ensued somewhat suspicious. There was a non high drama winning hand to play, and instead the gay movement went for the confrontation.

[-] 0 points by pityben (-2) 1 year ago

It is all about benefits. They could have worked to get the word "spouse" replaced with "civil partner" and gotten their tax bennies. Sorry, marriage is a religious rite and should not be bastardized by homosexuals. Tax laws should not give bennies to a religious pairing. This could have been resolved in a much different manner.

AND folks like me that don't appreciate marriage's bastardization are not "anti gay". Why does the left ,make it and either or?

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Straight people in this country made a joke of marriage a long time ago.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

I'm glad people can marry

me, I'm still on the plan of curling up and dying when the money's gone

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2001) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

National Freedom to Marry is inevitable.

It's a wonder it took the country soooooooooooooooooo long to catch up/on.

Certainly America was not up to speed during the Clinton Presidency.

I'm so tired, so tired, tired of waiting for you...

[-] 1 points by DebtSUSPENSIONRights (181) 1 year ago

This is exactly what is suspicious about the entire process. Instead of going for the logical, simple meme of "there is no difference between a gay marriage and a heterosexual marriage that cannot have children", the gay movement went after heterosexuals who could have kids.

I find this highly manipulative as it put everybody through a five year ringer of unnecessary drama, AND, it now allows the gay movement to have their own annual "civil rights" day in which every year they get to play the victim that triumphed over evil.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2001) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

In certain states, people have marriage freedom. Unfortunately, many states retain this obscene discrimination of common civil rights. The travesty continues!

[-] 0 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

"Certainly America was not up to speed during the Clinton Presidency."

Prop 8 voting results show its still not. There is much work to be done still.

[-] 0 points by WSmith (2001) from Cornelius, OR 1 year ago

Prop 8, like prop 13, was a fraud perpetrated on Californians. And found unconstitutional because it denies common rights to a group of people without justification.

[-] 0 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

No posturing - just typical Washington politics
When Clinton was running against Dole, the Rs found DOMA was a big vote getter and in a typical political move, Clinton removed this "magnet" so that he would get elected. I did not like it - and many LGBT paid the price - but both Clintons are clearly in favor of ending it.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

You mean like..........multiple IDs and integrity?

Just saying.

[-] 0 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Yawn

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

No, yawn is what I did when I saw, yet one more of the same ol' same ol' diatribe.

[-] 0 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Are you talking about something like bensdad/gwb/ericweiss/mideast?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/sign-petition-to-kill-501c4-politics/

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Right at the moment, just you. You have been so desperate to have the world revolve around you.

[-] 0 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Hmmm. Funny since there's only one of me, and I'm talking only to you. Guess bensdad gets a free pass to answer his own posts under a different name. You're not bensdad, are you?

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Hmmmmmmmmm. Don't be asinine. Again. It's all about you. You and your lack of integrity.

[-] 0 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Busted! Must be why you never curse at bensdad like you do everyone else.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Not too bright or attempting to use your awesome power of detectable deception?

I curse. I call him out. Why? You gonna try to put a wedge in there?

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.............you are so transparent.

[-] 0 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Go borrow VQ's cone of shame. I'm embarrassed to be seen talking to a Multiple Mary like you. Good night!

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Did you get popped trying to spread your right wing trash again? Alex Jones misses you. If you hurry over to his board you might be just in time for a group hug.

There's a great site out there where you can get your Buddha fortune cookie.

[-] -1 points by JasonWyngarde (-2) 1 year ago

Funny that Dick Cheney could endorse gay marriage back in 2004 but it took the Clintons almost ten more years.

[-] 1 points by TikiJ (-38) 1 year ago

Playing politics with people's lives, thats what this authoritarian system produces.

As Carlin said "Garbage in, garbage out".

[-] -1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

DOMA was a no brainer... but then again so was this: "for and by the people" until today's ruling on Prop 8. The people may have standing to initiate but they have no power to defend the challenge of that which they initiated and consequently adopted through a majority vote of the people.

And you think OWS is going to make a difference?

How long do you believe a government like this can last without a significant military presence to enforce it's will?

[-] -1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

Clinton;s insincerity was always obvious. And the current president merely spouts simultaneous lies.