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Forum Post: charlie & david & wayne & ted & paul & alec have the perfect solution for the DC Navy Yard

Posted 10 years ago on Sept. 16, 2013, 5:42 p.m. EST by bensdad (8977)
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get rid of all food stamps and welfare and buy guns for everyone

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[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

What You Need To Know Before This Week’s House Vote On Food Stamps
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/16/2627291/need-know-weeks-house-vote-food-stamps/

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Dear NRA, Are You Really Going to Tell Me 'Guns Don't Kill Children, Children Kill Children'?
http://admin.alternet.org/print/civil-liberties/kids-and-guns

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

IN DEPTH: The Five Components Of American Gun Violence Revisited

With yet another mass shooting happening, this time in Washington, DC at the Navy Yard, an official U.S. Navy installation, America has once again been thrown back into the national discussion surrounding guns and gun safety laws. The conversation is especially pertinent now, in the wake of the NRA's successful push to recall two Colorado state senators who helped to pass new gun safety laws this past year.

Sadly, it's only one of thousands of acts of gun violence in our nation annually. Counting Monday's events, sixty-eight acts of gun violence in the last thirty years have been mass shootings, killing four or more people. Fifteen of the twenty-five worst mass shootings in the world over the last fifty years took place in America, with - now - six of them happening since 2007.

It wasn't always this way, in America. But it has been for too long.

In fact, Randi and her staff initially identified the criteria below in the wake of the Connecticut disaster. After the events at Navy Yard, we've updated them again. But the question remains: Why the increase in mass shootings over the past decade, in situations where the shooters weren't actively involved in activities like drug deals or bank robberies? The facts to point five general reasons:

Ineffective Gun Safety Laws

No one is honestly suggesting we take all the guns away. But the statistics make it clear - the gun safety laws America currently has on the books don't work effectively. That shouldn't surprise anyone, since virtually every gun safety law we have in America was specifically tweaked by lobbyists for the benefit of gun manufacturers - not to keep gun users safe. We need better, more effective gun safety laws - something that about 85% of non-NRA gun owners agree and about 75% of NRA members agree with.

Sub-Optimal Mental Health Care System

Our mental health care system bears a great deal of responsibility for our culture of gun violence in America. While ObamaCare will be improving it greatly in the coming years, the fact is, it's been less than optimal for a long time. For a nation that is both the most heavily armed nation in the world and the most violent, poor mental health care is a primary causal factor for many kinds of violence, including gun violence.

Corrupt Lobbying And Political Finance System

As previously noted, three quarters of NRA members want more effective gun safety laws. Yet the primary lobbying organization for gun rights in America - the NRA - obviously doesn't care what their membership wants. As a lobbying organization, they've made it clear through their actions that their primary goal is to make millions of dollars a year to spend on political campaigns - not to make gun safety laws. Americans must reform the lobbying and political contribution laws, and get the money out of its prominent role, if we're going to solve the problem of gun violence in America.

Questionable Media Ethics ~ C.Todd: "Not our job..."

We glorify violence in our entertainment media, and run like cowards in dealing with it responsibly in our news media. Both kinds of media are in serious need of official ethical standards and practices. As members of the media, we must put getting it right above getting it first. That includes in the types of programs we broadcast, and the way we sell media content.

Poverty & Economic Inequality

While our economy is finally improving, we can't ignore the the toll the recession has taken on families over the past few years. It's a proven fact - income inequality is a factor in the increased number of murders we have. It's also true that the employment and income gap is now at the widest point it's been since the 1930s. We have parents who work three jobs, but they can barely keep a roof above the heads of their families, let alone parent well. Being able to earn a living wage - and give parents the time to guide their children properly - should be an American right, not an unreachable goal.

The facts are simple and clear. If we want gun violence to decrease in America, gun safety laws WILL have to get better. So will mental health care. So will our media ethics, and our political funding system, and our economy.

We can do better. It's long past time that we did.

Read more: http://www.randirhodes.com/articles/headlines-393046/in-depth-the-five-components-of-11657786/#ixzz2fNfJ25es

[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago
[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago
[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

There Have Been More Mass Shootings Since Newtown Than You've Heard About (INFOGRAPHIC) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/17/mass-shootings-2013_n_3941889.html

Trauma Surgeon Janis Orlowski Goes Off on Gun Violence: 'There Is Something Evil in Our Society'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFsG3yV_kqs&feature=youtu.be

Pierce Morgan Tries to Reason with Gun-Nuts
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/16/piers-morgan-challenges-john-lott-and-ben-ferguson-on-gun-death-statistics-and-the-prospect-of-arming-citizens/

Gun-Nut Reasoning
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/09/16/alex-jones-navy-yard-shooting-may-be-false-flag/195895

Fox News' Hasselbeck: Navy Yard Shooting Shows Need for Video Game Registry, Not Gun Control
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/fox-news-hasselbeck-navy-yard-shooting-shows

Reid: I don't have the votes to move gun control legislation
http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/322775-reid-i-dont-have-the-votes-to-move-gun-control-legislation

Obama calls for gun control in wake of Navy Yard shooting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/09/17/obama-calls-for-gun-control-in-wake-of-navy-yard-shooting/

Starbucks asks U.S. customers to leave guns at home
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/18/us-usa-starbucks-guns-idUSBRE98H04N20130918

There Will Be Another Mass Shooting. This Is What the Data Tells Us About It
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/09/there-will-be-another-mass-shooting/69508/

http://www.randirhodes.com/articles/homework-364336/randis-homework-tue-sep-17-2013-11660541/

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 years ago

US exports 41% of all arms sales internationally

[-] 3 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 10 years ago

Ike warned us about the MIC

[-] -1 points by PrivateUnionyes (-6) 10 years ago

Hmmm? I think most gun lovers aren't murderers and wonder why they are being singled out in a society that grows more permissive each day. So say 200 people are killed in mass murders each year. How much pain will be caused by marijuana use, alcoholism, out of wedlock births, gang violence, school drop outs, prescription drug use, heroin, rape?

Mass murdering is horrific but only honest gun lovers will be inconvenienced by outlawing assault rifles and extended clips. Heroin, Coke, Percodan, Extasy, black market tobacco, child porn, can be obtained in about 20 minutes in any big city. Banning assault rifles will be the same.