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Forum Post: Cancer Is Finally Cured In Canada But Big Pharma Has No Interest

Posted 1 year ago on Nov. 24, 2012, 10:17 p.m. EST by Renneye (4004)
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Big Pharma Sucks! I guess people in the pharmaceutical industry must not have any family members or children that have cancer. They're despicable beyond words.

CTV News - Cancer Is Finally Cured In Canada But Big Pharma Has No Interest.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150635846921971

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[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

Here is a link to a very good interview Dylan Ratigan did with medical ethicist, Harriet Washington, who wrote "Deadly Monopolies:The Shocking Corporate Takeover of Life Itself--And the Consequences for Your Health and Our Medical Future."

http://www.twylah.com/DylanRatigan/tweets/154687688677662721

[-] 6 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Steller interview 'bw' !! I have always enjoyed Dylan Ratigan.

Harriet Washington is highly informed and is one of those 'rays of light' that take on the fight so others can be informed.

I agree with her that the 'Bayh-Dole Act' needs to be repealed. It would go a long way to stopping the horrendous monetary based decisions Big Pharma makes these days.

Honestly though!...a cancer drug...sitting right under their noses, and they won't touch it?!?! I don't know how they sleep at night.

In the meantime, my mom and father-in-law both are fighting cancer and I will do my best to track down this cancer drug "DCA" at a 'compounding' pharmacy...they often deal with 'older' drugs that are not profitable any longer. "Low Dose Naltrexone" (LDN) for multiple sclerosis is another one.

Thanks kindly 'bw'...for this & for all that you do here!

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

Glad you liked it. How about the bit about the drug that can save lives in Africa, but it sells for more money here as a facial cream for women?

Huge morality problems here.

[-] 5 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Yes...Eflornithine. 70 cents in Africa for African Sleeping Sickness (fatal if left untreated), and sold for 50 dollars here as Vaniqa for facial hair. Bye bye Africa. Kinda sums up the North American 'condition' in a nutshell.

You've now got me in a Harriet Washington frame of mind!

Here she is in an interview with Amy Goodman. What is revealed in the interview about the practices of Big Pharma is shocking. Their greed knows no bounds. If you have the time to have a look...its eye opening. Listening to Harriet is fascinating, in that her recall with information is astounding.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/10/31/deadly_monopolies_medical_ethicist_harriet_washington

[-] 6 points by Ache4Change (3158) 1 year ago

This is a very powerful and important post and the DemocracyNow! link is excellent. Thank you for posting and having read this very interesting thread, I wish you and your mom and father-in-law my sincere best wishes. I too, have been and am, in a similar situation with friends and relatives.

I attach this link on a related matter - http://www.nationofchange.org/top-us-healthcare-giant-gmos-are-devastating-health-1354113092 - which may be of interest to you, as well as this rather eye opening link - http://www.nationofchange.org/2012-price-hikes-branded-drugs-us-outpace-inflation-1354121491 .

Thank you. Solidarity. Never Give Up!

[-] 4 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Thank you for your generous and kind wishes.

With chances of getting cancer figures as high as 50%, it is all too likely that all of us will see cancer up close....if not personally, then a family member. Why? Well that's a full book in itself.

I come from a naturopathic/homeopathic background and there is much that can be done with these practices as a complement to contemporary medicine. For instance....cancer has a very hard time thriving in an alkaline (oxygen rich) environment. So staying alkaline as opposed to acidic is greatly beneficial. Being acidic is a breeding ground for cancer. Lots of info on this on the web. Below is a website that lists compounding pharmacies that have the "DCA" cancer drug available that you can tell your loved ones about.

http://www.thedcasite.com/Alternate_therapies/compounding_pharmacies.html

Thanks so much for the informative links. I've read many of your posts, and have to say...you have that rare brand of heart that is so favoured and fits in beautifully on this forum.

Thank you, and Solidarity back!

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3158) 1 year ago

Your naturopathic/homeopathic background shines though in your post, comments, links and excellent information. Thank you sincerely for your gracious words and graceful nature. Solidarity. We Never Give Up! Occupy The Issues!

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

Thanks for the link. More scary even than the Ratigan one. Geesh. Tissue trafficking, universities in bed with corporations. Good grief! But, not surprising in a society that puts profit above all else.

As a side note, the John Moore, tissue patent story, where the doctor made a fortune off the poor guy's tissue without him knowing, reminded me of COLI or Corporate Owned Life Insurance which most Americans don't even understand that their employers have. Yes, many corporations purchase life insurance on their employees' lives which they collect on when the employee dies. So, you can work for a company for 5 weeks and if they purchase COLI they will hold it until the day you die. And, don't worry, they check the Social Security Death Index every year to see who has passed away that once worked for them and that they hold COLI on. Nothing like having some corporation waiting for you to die. This is often part of how pension systems are funded. Morally bankrupt.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Thunk. That was the sound of my chin hitting the desk. This thread is about to give me an apoplectic fit!

Anger doesn't begin to describe how I feel about Big Pharma...no, all of the unethical corporations right now.

Nick-named the "Dead Peasants Insurance". It seems the corporations can leverage this insurance any number of ways. I'm going to bet there is no part of our lives 'they' are not cashing in on. This warrants a look-see. North America needs a total 'bottom up' reboot.

Looks like COLI has been tackled on OWS in this 10 month old thread. I haven't read through it, but looks like there is some pertinent info there.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/over-my-dead-body-we-peasants-must-revolt-against-/

Thanks again 'bw', for all the generous information and spirit you share. : )

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

Oh, and I forgot to mention that COLI is common practice in the pharma industry. Not surprising, right? And, thanks for the old thread. I'm on there and it's fun to look back at old comments.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Thanks 'bw'! I found this list of companies who use this practice from...

"Mike Myers has a national law practice involving class actions and commercial litigation at both the trial and appellate levels. He has been counsel in cases involving eighteen approved class action settlements, including the Wal-Mart and Fina Oil “dead peasant” insurance cases. He has argued before the United States Courts of Appeals for the Tenth and Fifth Circuits in landmark cases involving life insurance and personal privacy rights. A substantial part of his practice concerns corporate-owned life insurance and his cases have been reported in THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, U.S. NEWS AND WORLD REPORT, and internationally in LEMONDE’S March 18, 2003 article Les Mortelles Combines Des Patrons Américains. Mike is frequently used as a media resource on the topics of insurance and annuities. He has appeared in the NATIONAL LAW JOURNAL and on CNN’s Prime News with Erica Hill to discuss life insurance issues and consulted on the documentary film SiCKO."

Should we give the greedy corporations some free advertisement? ==big wicked grin==

http://deadpeasantinsurance.com/which-employers-bought-policies-on-the-lives-of-employees/#more-43

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

That's an awesome link, thanks. It is truly unbelievable what corporations will do to earn profit for their stockholders. No shame.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

You're quite welcome. I second that sentiment!

[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

This is neolibertarianism at work.

They will throw contract after contract at you for your signing pleasure.

Nice video.......................:)

[-] 2 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Thanks shooz! I've got a contract I'd like to remind 'them' of. It involves a little known Hippocratic Oath that says, "first do no harm".

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

They hire lawyers for all that, so I guess they feel exonerated.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

I have a different idea of exoneration for those self-serving, greedy and in-humane folks...only, my version involves a long walk and a short pier.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

One of my favorite movies on the subject is "The Constant Gardener".

A drama with roots in reality.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Wow! Thanks for that. I just watched the trailer. I can't remember the last time I sat down and watched a movie for the sake of entertainment. I think I'm due.

Looks like John le Carre has something he wants to tell us...and of course you can't go wrong with Ralph Fiennes.

The utter conflict of interest with these 'practices' is irrefutable. There is no conceivable way that any of this should be allowed. We have much to do.

[-] 1 points by billybelch (10) 1 year ago

You mean there is a limited amount of it?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

No. They just can't make much profit in Africa, and here they can make a killing. Read Renneye's comment above which is below mine. Thanks.

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

ironically the video starts out with an advertisement for Abilify.

Great interview though!

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (21572) 1 year ago

That is too damn funny. LOL. We're all gonna need it soon if this country doesn't change direction.

[-] 4 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

GMO Cancer Report Rejected:

http://www.france24.com/en/20121128-eu-rejects-french-report-linking-gm-maize-cancer

"...saying it failed to meet "acceptable scientific standards."

1) History changes yearly since it is not scientific.
2) Anthropology changes almost yearly since carbon dating is limited to organic compounds or other limitation.
3) Medicine is a Practice based on observations and experience along with the best Science available. But Medicine is not science, does not prevent disease like cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, etc. People are killed mostly in the US by Prescription medications that are the wrong doses prescribed by doctors.
4) FDA, NEJM, and the AMA are prone to Conflict of Interest from money and lobbies for drug and food produces. In fact many of our US studies in medicine and drugs are subsidized by corporations.
5) Science changes yearly. Most of what you learn as a kid will be overturned by new science by the time you are old. However the scientific method is very good. Science and Universities seem to think they have the only Truth, but that is very far from the truth. Many other older ideas in foreign cultures deserve review and respect for the technology an developement that is reflecting in work over 1000 years old.

"...Gilles-Eric Seralini, his research group, Criigen, this month issued a list of almost 200 scientists from more than 30 countries who back the study..."

[-] -1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Shocking. Im so surprised.

[-] 3 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 1 year ago

Someone told me they knew someone who was recently at the hospital where this research was done, looking into cord-blood banking for their baby. She spoke with a doctor who seemed to be in charge, was wondering about insurance. A very interesting conversation ensued and this doctor was clearly a man of character and integrity. He was something like the head of the same cancer research center in the early 70s for some time. She brought up DCA and the work that was done (in 2007?) and strangely the doctor, who claimed to know nearly everyone involved in the university's DCA research, had no knowledge of it!

This doctor sounded very cutting edge, she said, knowing the articles on stem cell research released the day before and probably every publication prior. He seemed to know what was going on in all parts of the world.

How could he not have known? Why does nobody know! It was even on the news, and whoever watched it must have forgotten immediately.

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Global Voices show on PBS, Stealing Africa, the quote I have is that Glencore is one of the biggest Corporations you have never heard of. The story is that the company or government of Switzerland stated that personal informaton or other information about Glencore is a Threat to National Security. They don't want Transparency obviously. This company owns and buys copper in Zambia (as I remember). It makes something like $130 Billion a year, and part of the story is about off shore profits,... to reduce or eliminate taxes.

I didn't really catch the whole story, but just like Big Pharma ...and Health Care, Health Care Insurance ... there are big profits in disease, exploting resources and exploiting consumers.

What a business model. Oh of course we also want a monolopy, control over the Industry and Regulations. Don't let the people have choices or cheaper alternatives.

50 YEARS of Cancer Research ...and really the highest funding levels through government and charities. Do you see emphasis on Disease Prevention through Food and Nutrician? Prevention of Cancer is a Total Failure.

Largest Tax Fraud in World History??

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/408563/20121126/stealing-africa-mining-zambia-poverty-glencore-mopani.htm

http://moneytometal.org/index.php/Glencore (the world's biggest commodities trader sailed into the .... Pollution and tax evasion – Zambia)

http://www.micahchallenge.org.au/case-studies (more than half of the copper exported from Zambia in 2008 was supposedly sent to the tax haven of Switzerland, through their subsidiary Mopani Copper Mines Plc)

1) Because of the lack of transparency in corporate reporting, and secrecy in international banking, it is very difficult to determine exactly how much tax revenue Zambia has lost over the years.

2) As a result austerity measures were imposed on Zambia by the IMF and World Bank, and Zambia privatised its mining industry.

3) audit by international accountants Grant Thornton and Econ Pöyry. Among the anomalies revealed in the audit were:

• an unexplained increase ($380 million) in claimed operating costs in 2007 – which immediately reduced the company's tax liabilities for that year,
• stunningly low reported volumes of extracted cobalt when compared to similar mining companies operating in the region,
• and alleged manipulations of copper selling prices in favour of Glencore.

4) The results of these anomalies was to reduce the taxable income of Mopani Copper Mines Plc by several hundred million dollars in the period 2003-2008.

---------------Corporations are the same whether Big Pharma or Mining or Banks-----------------------

http://www.cancercenter.com/complementary-alternative-medicine/nutritional-therapy.cfm

http://epic.iarc.fr/ EPIC - European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition

http://www.drhoffman.com/page.cfm/29 (Dr. Hoffman Treatment Program with many avenues) We are particularly good at reversing degenerative conditions linked to poor diet and overweight. The Hoffman Center is also a resource for many patients with poorly defined health conditions that have not responded well to conventional medical treatments, or have been deemed by default to be "psychosomatic".

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4789) 1 year ago

Good post Renneye.

Agree, "despicable beyond words".

Has gone beyond greed, into sadistic.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25072) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Sue to ban the use of the causes of cancer - Food Dye's, artificial sweeteners, Steroids, fossil fuel pollution from extraction etc etc etc

Sue the makers of cancer cures for not producing and distributing cures - for fair recompense.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/what-do-you-think-of-a-rolling-jubilee-type-action/

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Drug Company Influence Rising Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/as-drug-industrys-influence-over-research-grows-so-does-the-potential-for-bias/2012/11/24/bb64d596-1264-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_story.html?wpisrc=al_excl

"...The trial had been funded by GlaxoSmithKline, and each of the 11 authors had received money from the company. Four were employees and held company stock. The other seven were academic experts who had received grants or consultant fees from the firm..."

"...Maybe the most widely reported research controversy arose over the arthritis drug Vioxx, which had been featured positively in a NEJM article. The article reported the results of a trial that was funded by Merck and was co-written by two company researchers..."

"...Moreover, at the same time that companies have been funding a larger share of research, they have shifted the job of conducting trials away from nonprofit academic hospitals to for-profit “contract research organizations.” Critics say that with this change, corporate bias is less likely to be challenged..."

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

"...99% of Breast Cancer Tissue Contained This Everyday Chemical (NOT Aluminum)..."

http://www.garyascott.com/2012/11/27/25863.html

"...Recent research found higher concentrations of parabens in the upper quadrants of the breast and axillary area, where antiperspirants are usually applied, suggesting they may contribute to the development of breast cancer. One or more paraben esters were detected in 99 percent of the tissue samples collected from mastectomies. In 60 percent of the samples, all five paraben esters were present..."

Quote from Gary Scott Newsletter website. Topic is Chemicals in Perfumes ...that are secret ...or in Deodorants, Anti-perspirants

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garyascott/7262036158/

[-] 2 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Thanks Middleaged! You're 'preachin' to the choir' of course, lol! But that's ok! Hopefully others will see it and get something from it.

Years ago, when I found out about aluminum in deodorants, I switched to a naturopathic 'mineral salt stone' and I swear by it. Its about 6 bucks at the health store, but it lasts a really long time.

Dr. Mercola is my all time favourite! I get a daily subscription delivered to my email from his website.

Thanks kindly for all your informative contributions to this thread, and indeed to the entire forum. Your very detailed work is very appreciated. : )

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Oh never heard of Dr. Mercola, just went to his website thanks. Actually I was just reading stuff and had your post open in a window, so I posted it. I actually learn as I cut and paste. So I'm really just learning as I post sometimes...

[-] 2 points by Kavatz (464) from Edmonton, AB 1 year ago

I noticed this a few years ago. I live in Edmonton and no one here knows about it. Apparently a clinic in Toronto was administering the drug to cancer patients with nowhere else to go, and it's apparently cheap to buy the powder in bulk. This fuckin drove me nuts. Yes, those with the power to save lives but refuse to try because it's bad for business should be injected with aids and left tied to a pole in a cage filled with hungry birds.

[-] 2 points by lisa (425) 1 year ago

Big Pharma is a business, businesses want to make money. Eggplant is a food that has been shown to protect and reverse breast cancer and they will not tell anybody that either. Look to the alternative or complementary Dr.'s for cures that will not harm you, they usually know.

[-] 1 points by DebtNEUTRALITYpetition (641) 1 year ago

Is this researcher still testing the same lab rats to see what happens as more time passes?

[-] 1 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

cancer has been cured over and over again over the years...only to be shut down by the big pharma/government monopoly.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (25072) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Down with corp(se)oRATions over people - down with profits over people. Consider placing murder charges in a People's class action suit - Pharma specifically in this instance with all other corp(se)oRATions for like effect of causing death by their practices actions as well as inaction's.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Class Action Lawsuit...YES!! The way I see it, they are complicit in murder. OWS is in a beautiful position to do this. 'They' would sit up and pay attention then, wouldn't they?! All of a sudden OWS would take on an additional serious tone. Why not several class action lawsuits in the various arenas.

They keep us all very busy, chasing our bills and lives. Maybe its time we kept them busy for a while. Get them, using their own legal system. How satisfying would that be??

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25072) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

These actions can be expensive - but if handled like the rolling jubilee - a telethon to launch legal action for the people by the people. Who Knows How far such an initiative could bring us along the road to a better world for ALL.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

You're right DKA. There is nothing that can stop us, if the will to take on one or more of the individual corporate/financial segments, is there?! This really is something that should be put forth in an OWS meeting. I wonder if OWS would do better at this kind of litigation if it was a kind of not-for-profit organization or some other type of association. These kind of legal questions are not my area, but it would be interesting to investigate an action like this in moving forward as OWS, being a 'legal force' to be reckoned with.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25072) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I think OWS could forward the idea and Occupy Affinity Legal Groups could be established. I see this as a possible world wide action. Perhaps operating on a local as well as national basis here in the USA and repeating the same operation in other countries. I submitted a query to this site as to what they think of the idea - please do the same.

Everyone who thinks bringing lawsuits of the people into being is a GR8 idea - please forward and circulate the idea and perhaps ask the forum site as well. Show interest/enthusiasm.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Sounds great DKA! Will do! I'll let the forum know what I submit.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (25072) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Awesome - this could be the HUGE game changer. {:-])

I wonder - bring suit against the corpoRAT set-up but also Government and individuals in government that are working against the people/society/economy/environment/world?

[-] 0 points by peacehurricane (293) 1 year ago

A turn to the Peoples law just the facts and reasonable solution for them to make good. There is more to it. Every corrupt act has a "niche" what i call it. A place to begin their folding in on themselves or helping them with the consequences of exposing more truth should they refuse to be reasonable. I specialize in this and it is called Extra Legals find the way between the lines already written and tell them how it shall be. They are not in a place to argue because they have not got truth on their side. It by passes insurance with assurance plans succeed for the WE

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[-] 0 points by Coyote88 (-24) 1 year ago

Bullshit. One more time:bullshit.

[-] 0 points by llee611838 (2) 1 year ago

There seemed to be a lot of hyperbole in this story,and I couldn't tell how old the video above was. This is what Snopes has to say on this story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/cancercure.asp

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (6457) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

I have heard of this thing called, "race for the cure" are they not really working on a cure? isn't there a lot of people raising money for cancer research, couldn't some of that be used? I mean yeah it would be cool and one would think big pharm would do this anyway, but really there is a lot of people raising money "for the cure"

[-] 1 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Don't give any money to the cancer research scamsters. They have no imagination and channel almost all monies to the standard protocols. They have no creativity, no spirit of plant a million seeds and see what sprouts.

[-] -2 points by factsrfun (6457) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

seems a rather sweeping judgement

[-] 2 points by nomdeguerre (1775) from Brooklyn, NY 1 year ago

Not really, did any of the "charity" cure-cancer foundations ever research medical marijuana as a cancer cure? No. How about researching the subject of the OP? No.

Did you know that Ronald Reagan took a secret trip to Germany to have his cancers successfully treated at a German internal heat/high fever cancer treatment clinic? Did "race for the cure" investigate that?

The so-called cancer cure foundations are designed to make contributors feel good while accomplishing next to nothing. They work hand in glove with Big Pharma which is only interested in milking the medical consumer to the last nickel, not public health (just one more corpoRAT free to act psychopathically). But at least the foundation heads are 1%ers.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (6457) from Phoenix, AZ 1 year ago

the reason there is so often no research on medical marijuana for pain or cancer is because the government won't provide the cannabis for research that way they can always say "there is no research proving..." I suggest if it comes up you should ask the person what research they have showing it doesn't work. I am an RN and have been to medical conferences and seen cancer doctors talk about how they could not get material for research and when they did, by tricking the FDA, BTW the study showed significant pain relief but was too small to be published as such. My point being that neither "race for the cure" nor the National Cancer Institute can get cannabis for research.

[-] 0 points by peacehurricane (293) 1 year ago

There will be no mandatory health care when we use alternative medicinals people will get well and some states stand ready to supply that cannabis 400 products in hemp now that provides jobs and economic recovery plus gets people well and happy all at same time yes that makes win win win which is automatic what to do That FDA will go with the WDC yeah Praise and bless the days that no one is getting paid to make kids sick and the poking and prodding the little innocents lets do this people them sickos gotta go

[-] -2 points by oldJack (14) 1 year ago

I'm surprised so many people here believe this nonsense.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

I'm even more surprised anyone would bring up a 2 month old thread to make that statement.

There are more important threads around to comment on.

[-] -2 points by oldJohn (-646) 1 year ago

Oops... The original poster has been silently bumping this thread every day by posting a comment and then deleting it just after. I didn't notice it was old. Sorry about that.

[-] 3 points by Renneye (4004) 1 year ago

Trashy. Hmmm...Lets try that again.

Sorry, je ne parle pas a$$hole.

Keep this handy for future reference.

[-] 0 points by oldJohn (-646) 1 year ago

Well, someone bumped it yesterday, and today again.

In any case, this is just another BS conspiracy theory propagated by delusional people.