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Forum Post: Boston Under Siege

Posted 1 year ago on April 19, 2013, 4:22 p.m. EST by justiceforzim (-17)
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By our very own police state.

If I had any doubts about the govt trolls that infest this site, they are now fully put to rest.

We have a thread demonizing the tea party, another Al Quaeda.

You call yourselves "REVOLUTIONARIES" and the complete invasion of an American City by military forces of the US to find one NINETEEN yr old boy doesn't give any of you pause? Is this Bagdad or Boston?

You Democrat trolls are sick puppies.

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[-] 2 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

no this gives me much pause and the way the citizens just bow down without so much as a wait a second is the most disturbing part.

[-] 9 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

http://globalistagenda.org/quotes.htm

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

We have to tell the People of our country that they are being attacked by Politicians and Bankers that want to go to War.

Up is Down, Down is Up, Black is White, White is Black, Right is wrong.

State War is an Attack on it's own Populous. Perhaps Brave Heart the Movie with Mel Gibson shows this better than most Memes. Grandfather Bush funded Nazis though. What more do you want to know?

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

Yes, Ma! Democide is the name, and confusion is the game!

I know you already know this 'Ma'...but others may not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Robert Baer, Former CIA, wrote a couple of books that point to a pattern of willful negligence in "Not Tracking Weapons and Weapons Sales" in the Middle East and Africa. We all know the stories about Rwanda in the 1990s where perhaps a 1 Million Tutsis and Hutus where killed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_in_Bosnia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_in_Darfur

Plenty of people ask for assistance to stop war & Genocide. But it seems to be a Strategy to "Dumb People Down".

1) Appeals to nationalism & Patriotism was part of the Creel Commission's mandate prior to WWI... as the technology of the Brain and Propaganda reached a peak.
2) History seems to show the Roman Armies and the Roman Empire often "Dumbed People Down" destroying their civilizations, Libraries, and then passing proclamations.
3) Shock Doctrine and the work of Milton Freidman is about taking advantage of catastrophies and War.
4) Milton Friedman Predates the Ronald Reagan Administration when the concept of Dumbing us Down through Federal Department of Education was Funded.
5) But taking young People, Young Men before college and sending them to war changes them forever. PTSD, Drugs, Alcohol, Trauma, memories of a way of life with guns, fighting over land, fighting without reason, fighting for an ideology, fighting for an idea, and today ... fighting just for your team in Afghanistan, just to get back home.
6) War makes us dumb by destroying ideas, education, culture, Language, History, books, Technology, and in the end we are less attached to the past, past cultures, and past history.
7) So there is only Capitalism, Corporatism, the need to work, contractual obligations, education debt, mortgage debt, Insurance contracts, media contracts, phone contracts, taxes to pay, TARP Bailouts to pay for, Court Costs (just wait), Lawyers to pay, Accountants to pay (just wait), and Wars to pay for even though many capitalisms are profiting off of war.

Perhaps Broadly Speaking ... Democide is about Destroying Individuality, Freedom, Free Thought, Freedom from obligations, and freedom from war. In this sense our US Financial Schemes and Financial Obligations to Banks is Democide.

[-] 4 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

A troubling and heartrending post, 'Ma'. It was in my second reading that I felt the full jolt of your words reaching back in time. An impact I wish, could somehow be conveyed in a meaningful life-altering way to the 0.01%...but alas, I don't think anything could touch their granite hearts.

Yes, 'Ma'. What you describe is their 'tried & true' formula. A clear pattern of Democide. Strategies used to keep certain pockets of populations down, using the headlines, both organic and unnatural, and the weapons of the day. There is not language descriptive enough to express how repugnant they are. They are monsters.

All forum members, those just looking on...and indeed the 0.01% would do well to read and research the history in your post, and harken to it's...and your message.

Thank you, kind sir...for this compilation of truth.

~~

Democide definition;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

[-] 3 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Corporatcide: The dumbing down of a social group to condition them for labor within a factory or corporate structure with competitive drives for "Sports" and office work through educational, media, social, and family institutions.

Politicide has three related but distinct meanings. It can mean a gradual but systematic attempt to cause the annihilation of an independent political and social entity,[1] such as the destruction of the apartheid system in South Africa.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politicide

War is unnatural to any family. War in defense of ones land can be unavoidable...and sudden. But expeditionary war is about power and conquering for resources. Sometimes war is about capturing a labor force.

In this sense, Banking is war on labor. Corporatism is war on labor. The Corporate take over of Washington DC in 2001 is a war on taxpayers and workers. The decline of wages & Benefits is a war on all American People. Off shoring Production and corporate headquarters is a war on American People.

There are about 10 Economic Bubbles right now that reduce the value of the dollar by increasing the supply of dollars in the world. But wages and pensions and retirements have gone in the opposite direction. And the expansion of economic markets & bubbles has to continue to keep everything running.

Rah Rah, said the Banker.
Rah Rah, said the Soldier.
Let's keep it coming.
Let's keep it moving.

Rah Rah, said the Banker.
Rah Rah, said the Soldier.
Gotta keep it comin'
Gotta keep it movin'

Did you sell something today?
Did you make a bundle?

Rah Rah, said the Banker.
Rah Rah, said the Soldier.

[-] 2 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing.----andrew jackson

[-] 10 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

"Rise like Lions after slumber

In unvanquishable number,

Shake your chains to earth like dew

Which in sleep had fallen on you-

Ye are many — they are few"

Excerpt from 'The Masque of Anarchy' - a political poem written in 1819 by Percy Bysshe Shelley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Masque_of_Anarchy

[-] 2 points by GypsyKing (8719) 1 year ago

Thanks Renneye, and may I add:

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed. And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.'

Percy Bysshe Shelley

Thanks for that beautiful excerpt, and for all you have contributed here.

[-] 2 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

Thank you GK, for your kind words & wonderful poetry.

Though I'd very much like to see the empire fall to dust...and given the political and .01% arrogance and hubris virtually guaranteeing that very execution...history indicates that the parasitical empire, by clawing at us on their way to the top, invariably drag us down with them. So its become a question of how do we get them out of power without bringing about our own destruction?

Interesting times, indeed.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

This seems appropriate here. Your excellent reference brought this low brow Lyric to mind (although the expressions of fear seem in appropriate now, perhaps heavy metal music captured the meme of the Tyrant):

Behold 'tis I the commander Whose grip controls you all
Resist me not, surrender I'll no compassion call
Tyrant, capture of humanity
Tyrant, conqueror of all
Tyrant, hideous destructor
Tyrant, every man shall fall
Your very lives are held within my fingers
I snap them and you cower down in fear
You spineless things who belly down to slither
To the end of the world you follow to be near
Tyrant, capture of humanity
Tyrant, conqueror of all
Tyrant, hideous destructor
Tyrant, every man shall fall
Mourn for us oppressed in fear
Chained and shackled we are bound
Freedom choked in dread we live
Since Tyrant was enthroned
I listen not to sympathy
Whilst ruler of this land
Withdraw your feeble aches and moans
Or suffer smite from this my hand
Tyrant, capture of humanity
Tyrant, conqueror of all
Tyrant, hideous destructor
Tyrant, every man shall fall
Mourn for us oppressed in fear
Chained and shackled we are bound
Freedom choked in dread we live
Since Tyrant was enthroned
My legions faithful unto death
I'll summon to my court
And as you perish each of you
Shall scream as you are sought
Tyrant, capture of humanity
Tyrant, conqueror of all
Tyrant, hideous destructor
Tyrant, every man shall fall

Read more: JUDAS PRIEST - TYRANT LYRICS

[-] 1 points by Renneye (3998) 1 year ago

Thanks 'Ma'! Wow, given that the artists in the music industry have to deal with some pretty unsavory corporate types...perhaps they know a lot more than the average person about what goes on at the top.

Judas Priest isn't the only group/artist that has lyrics that speak to these matters. Although I have to say, these lyrics, albeit gritty, are rather 'on the mark'.

Now, I never would have connected you with heavy metal, 'Ma'. I thought you were more blues/jazz. But hey, whatever stirs the soul!

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Thanx, here is corporate intensions laid bare, from a Japanese keiretsu, Mitsui:

As part of the Japanese plans for the exploitation of China, during the 1930s and '40s the subsidiary tobacco industry of Mitsui had started production of special "Golden Bat" cigarettes using the then-popular in the Far East trademark. Their circulation was prohibited in Japan and was used only for export. Local Japanese secret service under the controversial Imperial Japanese Army General Kenji Doihara had the control of their distribution in China and Manchuria where the production exported. In their mouthpiece there were hidden small doses of opium or heroin and by this millions of unsuspecting consumers were addicted into these narcotics, while creating huge profits. The mastermind of the plan, Doihara, was later prosecuted and convicted for war crimes before the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, sentenced to death; but no actions ever took place against the company which profited from their production. According to testimony presented at the Tokyo War Crimes trials in 1948, the revenue from the narcotization policy in China, including Manchukuo, was estimated in 20 million to 30 million yen per year, while another authority stated that the annual revenue was estimated by the Japanese military at US$300 million a year.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsui#Controversy

Yes, you are probably right about the Music Industry. Welcome to the Machine.

http://www.customscorruption.com/ (I haven't really checked this one out yet, a Wistleblower)

[-] 2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

One of the truest quotes of all time.

[+] -5 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

Dude, turn off Alex Jones and take a break.

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

alex jones? this has nothing to do with that fat tub of lard. this has to do with the police state that i am watching unfold daily on tv and the media cheer leading while the citizens behave like sheep.

[-] -3 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

The cops are trying to catch a terrorist; and the public wants them to catch him. How is that a police state?

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

1 19 year old kid requires the army? cause that is what it looks like. frankly i already know you as a conformist sheep ready to cow tow to authority.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Who said anything about the Army. But even if the army were involved... The Police said they have a problem with setting up a perimeter. So yeah, they probably shut down cell phones, shut down tweeting, maybe jammed the internet, .. closed public transportation (meaning maybe some people were left at train stations or bus stations in boston if they normally run)

On one hand... the Bombers had to be captured or taken down. Doesn't matter what their politics were. The first problem is: What was their politics? Are these the right guys or are they Patsies. Are these guys just fall guys? Are they part of the opposition to Republicans or Democrats, no doesn't seem like it. They seem to be part of a Terrorist Plot.

Are they part of the CIA's list of Assets and is there any way to know? No, there is no way to clear these guys from larger government plots.

If these guys could have been US government patsies or US government operatives... Who can we send to Chechnya to Investigate?

What Internet Websites are likely to report the abuses by CIA assets in Chechnya today?

[-] 3 points by SteadyRock (63) from New York, NY 1 year ago

You can't clearly say that this two wasn't CIA plot. One of them dead, another can't talk: http://occupywallst.org/forum/boston-massacre-a-psy-op/#comment-965188

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

They control Corporate Media, the Cost of Living & Learning forces people to Loyalty to a Career and usually to the Government or a Corporation. Besides the Church Committee in the 1970's revealed Operation Mockingbird.

We know there is a required relationship between the CIA & Banking to fund their operations, buy weapons, buy planes, start new companies out of Panama or Off shore some where.

We know that Congress Colludes and Commits RICO Violations in exchange for Fake Investments that make them "Rich" through Wealthy Americans, Executives, & Bankers. And congress polices themselves on insider trading and expensive gifts... so there is no higher authority over congress.

We know Congress will no longer Investigate:

1) Big Defense Contracts that are over Budget or just horrendously expensive. MIC Wins and sometimes demands new contracts for themselves.
2) Congress won't investigate Big Campaign Contributors no matter if it is a pedophilia Network, Human Slavery, or whatever.
3) Congress won't investigate banking Executives on Wall Street or the corporations themselves for Money Laundering, LIBOR Price Rigging, ISDAfix Price Rigging, or gold & silver Price Fixing.
4) Congressional Intelligence Committees feel like they are so special and privileged that they will agree to anything at all... and they probably treat all their contacts like royalty for letting them be part of the plan or even just part of the small plan.
5) Congress will never investigate the 2008 Financial Collapse, the Massive & Systemic Fraud, the global risk of US Derivatives, the US Risk of Private banking, the US Risk from huge money creation and rehypothication of assets by Wall Street Investment Bankers.... and Really 9-11 was never investigated by New York City, or US Congress.
6) Congress Never Investigates anything to do with US Wars like Vietnam & Iraq to take responsibility and prevent the same moral misstates. Because deep down many people side with War Hawks and want to be able to use American War Power whenever they want to & How they want to.
7) Vietnam War's Phoenix Program isn't really any different from Drone Strike Assassinations, or smart bomb Assassinations. Congress doesn't want to look at Morality except to tell you what to do with your body, what to eat, what kind of sex or sexuality to have, and whether you can have an abortion or be fat.
8) Drones are another Military Industry. Congress doesn't want to look at how Industries influence society & the Police State today. Phone Companies have the capability of spying on people... perhaps the Phone Lobby pushed congress for big Billion dollar contracts to benefit their partners & themselves (CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, DIA).
9) Remote Pilot Auto-Pilot Technology & Remote Control Technology at least goes back to the 1980s. They even made 2 James Bond Movie about it (helicopter & insect drones). That is 30 years of development that could have flown full sized planes into the Twin Towers. Looks like another partnership between Finance, Congressional Intelligence, DARPA or CIA or some new CIA Contractor Proxy.
10) Boston Massacre was simple compared to 9-11 or the 2008 Financial Crash.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

no you don't get it. it is about how we react or more accurately overreact to these kind of things allowing the puppet masters to use these events, exploiting the fear and paranoia. plus we didn't need quasi marshal law to catch this guy. i call bullshit this was a chance for them to test run marshal law plans and anti insurgency techniques in the good old usa. and if the police look like the army well then they are the fucking army. wake up.

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

Well yeah, the media, Obama speeches, and our whole DHS system is a bunch of hyperventilating old women. No offense to old women... Anytime 7 police officers all fire their guns at a suspect and hit him more than 7 times ... that is hyper action. What couldn't like 4 police take one shot?

[-] -3 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

If it takes an army to catch a terrorist, then so be it. I’ll sleep better know he’s in arrested or dead. Would you rather he got away?

[-] 3 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

He did get away. Didn't you catch that? One kid got past hundreds of cops armed with millions of dollars of the most advanced police weaponry. How embarrassing.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

away to where? he didn't get away to anywhere he got passed them but he did not get away. there is no getting away. just like dorner there is no escape.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

away? to where would he get away? his face was plastered on every tv in the country in the world for that matter where exactly was he going to hide? you fucking conformist don't say shit now and certainly wont be saying a thing when that jackboot is on your throat you hack. you can't wait for fascism.

[-] -2 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

Well they caught him. That's the important thing. Don't undrestand why it bothers you they set up a man hunt. Seems normal. I'm sure the good people of Boston are glad about all the effort.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

they caught who exactly?

[-] 0 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

I’m confused what you’re ranting about. Two terrorists set off a bomb; killing and maiming people. Law enforcement mounted a large manhunt, killed one and captured the other. News reports said they had several other bombs and it appeared they could do it again. If they hadn’t been stopped they could have done it again. So what the hell are you arguing about? Jeez

[-] 1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

news reports? oh wow this conversation is concluded.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Here's something you might like to ponder; not sure why the MSM's credibility becomes infallible all of a sudden.

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/41807

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

I would rather they hadn't used this as an opportunity to drill with NINE THOUSAND heavily armed govt employees on how to subdue a good sized city in the name of catching one lousy untrained teenager. Pretty sad that it took them over 12 hrs. Even sadder that so many Amerikans see nothing wrong with this.

[-] -1 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

That’s because there was nothing wrong with it. They were trying to catch a terrorist for chris sake. Actually 12 hours is pretty fast to catch someone. Probably one of the fastest. Jeez, everyone expects instant gratification these days.

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

the 12 hrs I speak of is the closing down of a city while trying to find a 19 yr old boy on foot. It was actually longer, not sure what time the night before the kid escaped them when his brother died.

As for nothing wrong with "it", I guess we can agree to disagree. If Occupy ever tries to occupy again, please don't criticize the govt response, it would be hypocritical.

[-] -2 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

Nope he didn't get away. Maybe you call the FBI and lecture them on how inept they are. I mean it took them over a day to catch the guys.

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[-] -2 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

Yea, an open mind is good in these situations. But I don’t assume innocence yet. I don’t buy into the “cops are the bad guys” mentality. Not much of conspiracy theories either.

After thinking about it for a moment, I think the brothers did it. But still needs to be proven in court. Seems fair.

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[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I would prefer to see some evidence.

Unless you're happy to see someone tried by media and executed in public, because they have a backpack on.

[-] 1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

They never produced much evidence on Dormer either. They just burned him alive, tho I think he may have shot himself while burning, There should have been security video of him shooting the cop's daughter and fiancé. His wallet turned up in several places too, during that manhunt. Maybe that's why they made people stay in their houses.....the LA cops shot an elderly Hispanic woman and her daughter delivering newspapers (I mean they pumped 100 rounds into their pickup) mistaking them for a rather tall and well built black man, We probably are safer in the house when all these cops are running around with military rifles.

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

All that's missing is the jack boots and the long leather jackets.

But Winter is coming, so I guess we won't have long to wait.

[-] -1 points by Narley (295) 1 year ago

OK, I agree, find him guilty, then hang him in the public square. That works for me.

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 1 year ago

The Tsarnaev brothers are of Chechen heritage. Both were born in the Caucusus region, a cauldron fought over by Chechen separatists, Russian security forces, Islamic extremists and organized crime. They had emigrated legally, and lived for years in the Boston area, where their father, Anzor, was an auto mechanic.

Organized Crime being the key words here. Corruption.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/massive-police-operation-under-way-in-boston/2013/04/19/979ec6dc-a8c6-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_print.html

Now look at the USA and the 2008 Financial Crisis:


Largest criminal institutions in the world create a Criminal Class of bankers since the US DOJ is not Prosecuting the Felons in charge of our Largest Banks.

"The U.S. banking system is absolutely primed for the next meltdown. Dr. Black and others think, "There is pervasive fraud at the most reputable banks. . . . The U.S. financial system is sick, and we still have the fundamental dynamic of a regulatory race to the bottom." Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with former banking regulator and UMKC Professor William K. Black.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=RhWFoMEGpTI&feature=endscreen

They gave up the idea of the virgin crisis with no fault. They are not investigating though.

HSBC was among other sins, caught for 8 violation in London recently, money laundering for the most violent drug cartel in Mexico. Our drug war destroys much of Latin America. Bank was caught red handed, but no bank, no officer, no former officer will be prosecuted.

2nd Lie we can't prosecute officers or former officers, because the system will collapse.

So do we have a teattering system if it is that fragile...

Black this is a series of lies. First if we prosecute the institutions will collapse. Journalist should laugh in the face of this statement. Second it is preposterous that we would leave felons in charge of the banks. Thirdly, it must be that facts would come out in trial to collapse the banks in this way. They are telling us these are systemically dangerous institutions. Then if follow with these lies that fines would be very small... and they are.

In the interest of fairness, consider that bank institutions have helped Iran develop nuclear weapons. This reads like a novel, a simple, silly novel. But the banks are doing these things. They helped Iran evade sanctions and help Al Qaida evade sanctions.

Because if you allow crimes to continue, to give them impunity, to allow the bank officers to grow wealthy with impunity, .....you create the biggest criminal syndicates in the world. You create a Criminal Class. You create the largest criminal institutions in the world. Insane.

Lanny Breuer FBI
Eric Holder, DOJ
Tim Geithner, all lead the effort for immunity for the criminals.

"The U.S. banking system is absolutely primed for the next meltdown for this reason, a Criminal Class existing".

Pervasive fraud in the most reputable banks.

London has the most lax regulations that is why many, many scandals break up in London, UK. Much more than you hear about in the USA. Obscene scandals in London now.

Deposit Insurance: $6 Billion in the S&L Scandal, but we made it through with higher levels of problems (liability). Deposit Insurance in the USA is not the concern. US Treasury will pay the Insurance obligation in the USA. In Germany, Merkle has wanted people to take haircuts which is not a totally bad idea.

Money printing would be okay in the next crisis... but you don't want to do this for 50 years of crisis going forward. But so, you don't have to yank your money out of US Banks.

Eurozone is different. These countries have given up their currency, their tool.

10 Million Americans should be working and this is bad for people and males. People get dysfunctional especially males. Males do less house work when laid off or not working. And Obama and the congress seem to be heading toward Austerity. So we can have a 2nd recession.

-We left the felons in charge and gave them immunity.

Unemployment levels in Europe today are higher than in the Great Depression. 2-3 times more sever in some countries or Europe Sectors.

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[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Are you expecting me to defend the right wing bleets? Our govt is broken....the pieces are red and blue.

[-] 1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

No Miranda rights were read, so I guess this is still going on

http://www.salon.com/2011/03/24/obama_rolls_back_miranda/

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[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Just another thought. If tptb had so much firepower and technology back in the 60's and 70's there are a couple colleges that would be missing a few professors today. Obama would have had to launch his political career in someone elses living room.

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Dog, I don't know what you have read on this forum, but no one on this thread was rooting for the kid to get away. I, myself, found the militaristic response chilling. I would imagine some of the onlookers are cheering in the hopes the Gestapo will go back wherever they came from.

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[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Here's another stroll down memory lane from a victim of 70's terrorists

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/tale_of_two_terrorists_3WtcmY2p7PwFkbO1NheqNL

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Remember the Weather Underground? I'd say they were a radicalized element and they were not met with such force. If Robt Redford lives long enough, maybe he can make a movie in 40 yrs glorifying these brothers. Here's wiki's list of their deeds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Get involved

http://maydaynyc.org/

Occupy

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

by the way i am no democrat. i am a political libertarian socialist who supports anarchosyndical economic strategies.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

I hope you can drop the political labels long enough to help restore the voice of the people, our fellow human beings.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

it is not a label it is how i identify my self insofar as my views on politics and economics are concerned.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

That's exactly what a label does, it identifies. A person isn't what he thinks, but is what he or she does. What we are trying to do here is to remove the people's blindness to the tyranny of the corporate/political beast that rules our world. Another narrow political viewpoint can't accomplish that. We must open our own eyes to open up others.

[-] -1 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

well so be it i guess i identify as libertarian socialist who favors anarcho syndicalism.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

But do you fight tyranny?

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

one mans tyranny is another mans justice.

[-] 1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

You're dodging the question.

[-] 0 points by itsmyblood (10) 1 year ago

define tyranny.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Any partisan BS is wasted effort.

Have you got a link about this military op in Boston?

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Sorry, but this site is dominated by Obamapologists. If you criticize him, you are labeled a Republican. Like it's an either or.

Anyway, I also should clarify my slight exaggeration, in that it's national guard and a myriad of law enforcement. BUT, our LEO's today are outfitted much like the military. My opinion, there is hardly a difference any more. They are CINOs....Cops in name only, There are plenty of pictures of the armored vehicles and the heavily armored and armed forces. Pick a news site of your choice. 300k+ citizens ordered to stay in their homes. Authorities are going door to door. No fly zone over city.

There was an incident in Aurora CO (yes THAT Aurora) a month or so before the Batman shooting, where a bank had been robbed and the cops stopped, removed and plastic cuffed dozens of citizens that happened to be driving thru the area they were searching.

It will be interesting to see what level of crime will subject cities and citizens to police state tactics going forward.

We certainly have the infrastructure in place. Pretty soon crime may be totally eliminated along with any freedoms we thought we had. Elimination of crime may sound good to some, til they realize that they are constantly making more activities criminal......

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Suspicion of crime is the old thoughtcrime of novel history.

Dissidence is thoughtcrime. We are under the control of fascists.

Indefinite incarceration for suspicion of terrorist activities.

This is all just a drill.

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Here's an update on the bank robbery I spoke of above. Glad to see they are suing..

http://kdvr.com/2013/01/24/citizens-caught-in-chaos-of-unusual-bank-robbery-dragnet-take-police-to-court/

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

From you link; (quote) The city attorney for Aurora, Charlie Richardson said, “Until overruled, the decision by the federal judge overseeing this case is the law of the case. We agree with the judge that our officers’ actions were appropriate.” (unquote)

What he's saying is, there's two sets of laws in Amurika.

[-] -1 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Or, his interpretation of the Constitution is law in Aurora until someone goes through the time and expense to change it. That;s a problem....if it had been 1 citizen, he probably would not have had the resources and backing to even take this issue to court. Sine it's a group, hopefully it will go all the way and SCOTUS will deliver a smack down, but perhaps not since we are all TERRORIZED again,

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

It's all about obedience.

There will be no need to fear, if you all just do as we say.

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

As I have told you before, I am glad I am pushing 60, though the way things are accelerating, I WILL live to see 1984 on steroids here in Amerika.

[-] -2 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

I'm heading for a remote region of our northwest.

Clean water and plenty of bush tucker to eat.

The tsunami might not reach us there.

Check this out. Freaky stuff.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/doomsday-methane-bubble-rupture-how-the-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event/20131

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

Whatever "she" means :-)

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 1 year ago

Oops. My apologies.

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Thanks. Stinkle-fingerer DM is tracking you.

[-] -2 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Anyone who supports and or advocates for violence is a coward.

Along with the democrats, the republicans and the american tax payers are ALL cowards.

BTW, Al Qaeda deserves to be demonized, does it not?

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 1 year ago

That depends. Are they killing Russians, Syrians, or Americans> We support them doing the first 2.....

[-] -3 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

does it matter who they kill? murder is murder and violence is ALWAYS wrong.

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

What if you are defending your family from an intruder?

[-] -1 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Idk. What if?

Why do pro violence people enjoy the 'what if?' game so much?

[-] 1 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

Very few people are pro-violence. They are mainly criminals.

And unfortunately we live in a society in which those people commit random acts of violence against others.

Being pro-violence and having the ability to defend your family from an intruder are 2 completely different things. I hope to never have to shoot my handgun at anything other than a target but would be more than willing to do so if someone forced their way into my home.

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[-] -1 points by Nader (74) 1 year ago

How are American tax payers all cowards?

[-] -2 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

they support violence and the military.

[+] -4 points by 14W (-3) 1 year ago

Wake up dumbass.

[-] -2 points by HCabret (-327) 1 year ago

Nirvana is a bitch.

Blow out that candle!!!! dumbass........