Forum Post: Blame the poor.
Posted 12 years ago on Feb. 19, 2012, 8:19 p.m. EST by jpbarbieux
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from Palmetto Bay, FL
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What would the Rich be without our hard work, subsistence wages, and taxes paid to the US Government? They would be poor.
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Good post!
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What is your point?
What is your point????????????????
Well let's see, the rich are abusing their power at our expense. Let them eat cake. Right!
Or they could just eat the poor.
I hear poor tastes good. Really sweet.
Too boney and smelly.
It depends on where they come from.
True. The newly poor are much better.
Well, we have the names of at least 2 trolls here.
Allow me to de-troll myself..... Hello, OWS! I am a TEA Party member, here to talk some sense into you, present some facts, and explain my POV. Oh, in my spare time I like to make fun of bitter fools like GypsyThing and a few others with closed minds and no sense of humor.
There, I said it! How do you like me now? ;)
Tea Party? You mean the Koch Brothers' Party for Schmucks & Puppets.
How much are they paying you? Or are you so dumb, you're doing the Koch billionaires' dirty work for free? Now THAT would be funny!
Well, let's see. This is the Official OWS site. It exists to support OWS and exchange ideas about how to strengthen it, move forward, or simply connect with each other.
You, on the other hand are here to "talk some sense into" us. An in your spare time amuse yourself by trying to insult members here. Uninvitedly, too. You are here to show us the error of our ways, that the movement itself is wrong and dumb.
If that's not the very definition of a troll, nothing is. And you are so stupid, deluded, and intoxicated with your own self-importance, you don't even know it.
Alternatively, you know it very well, and a simply lying again, as is your preferred activity.
Piss off, schmuck.
This site is like the parks you like to occupy, so I am here to Occupy it. So now you want to evict me? What next, virtual tear gas?
You're not here to occupy it. You are here to stand on the outskirts and throw stones at the occupiers.
Scum troll.
Apparently I'm front and center tonight. Why aren't you joining in my Mic Check?
As I said below (because, apparently you can't think for yourself more than once every hour or so) we don't like you any better than before.
But for whatever reason you make it a point to follow me around. I'll take that as a compliment.
You're a teabagger?
Why did you raise my taxes?
That wasn't very nice, nor was your joining the BIG government party of the (R)epelican'ts.
If the "tea party" was a real party, why are they on the ballot as (R)epelican'ts?
Could it be, teabagger is just another name for (R)epelican't?
Why yes, I do believe it is.
You should be happy to pay more in taxes. The money goes to help the poor, save the planet, etc.
Actually no. It went to help corporations, our teabaggers cut the poor off.
Care to answer my questions?
There are only two viable parties. The TEA Party is taking over the Republican Party the same way you Socialists took over the Democrat Party. Next question?
boy are you stupid!
Why is it that you can never answer a question?
Actually, teabaggers are just another name for (R)epelican't.
They lie, and misinterpret just like them.
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What power? What poor?
Ummm, the poor ain't working, don't pay income taxes, and they are slaves to the government, not to the rich.
The poor are working as much as they can, often at two or three jobs (despite there being 1 job available for every 4 applicants overall), they pay local, state, sales, and payroll taxes, among others, and they are enslaved to the 1%, who control every aspect of the economy and government.
you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options.
Really? I wonder if black folks would have agreed with you 200 years ago.
People do what they have to to survive. They don't choose to be poor. They don't choose to be enslaved. They are relegated to that position by a system that concentrates wealth at the very top, and leaves everyone else scrounging for crumbs.
Re: black "folks" - of course not but we are in the present day....stay with us.
Same question asked of GK. Are you enslaved? If so, why?
Everyone is enslaved by capitalism. Even the 1%.
lol. ok, we may have different definitions of enslavement. The fact I need air to live probably constitutes enslavement in your world. So, is enslavement an issue under your definition?
Have you read much of anything on these fora? Do you have any idea why OWS exists?
Stop your bullshit.
Either help fight for economic equity and a restoration of democracy or get out.
first you say the the poor are enslaved, then you say everyone is enslaved. I am only seeking why you see the world this way. I take it from your response, you aren't sure.
I'm sorry. I know exactly what I mean by the word, I am also sure you are playing games. You want to talk philosophy, go take a Phi101 course at you local community college. You want to play games, go to a playground.
I'm interested in why you believe we are enslaved. Evidently you aren't sure and blaming me as the reason for your inability is your answer.
So, how/why are you enslaved?
You're interested in a meaningless philosophical debate. Fine. Have one. In a classroom.
You want to discuss how OWS can better effect change, and what that change would be, that's what this site is for.
a key priority is to figure out how you are enslaved and how to get out it., I am here to help.
So, who/why are you enslaved?
The long and the short of it. Below I will attach my short conversation with fairforall. I do not know why ffa insists on this approach as it is not very effective for making a point. It is needlessly coy. It essentially comes down to the fact that no one who is here in support of OWS, Occupy and 99% have chosen to be enslaved and that fact is born out in that we are here to oppose corruption and in that sense oppose slavery.
2 points by DKAtoday (3265) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 day ago
What kind of idiot comment is that?
"-2 points by fairforall (225) 10 hours ago
you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options."
I mean - Really?
OK I choose not to be enslaved. ( now do I tap my heels together 3 times? )
HEY!!! back off with that pepper spray. I have chosen not to be enslaved!!!! ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink [-] 0 points by fairforall (241) 1 day ago
Everyone has the responsibility to support themselves and their families. And everyone has talents. Not choosing to push yourself to create an environment where both you and your family can succeed is unacceptable. Accepting enslavement will always guarantee failure. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink [-] 1 points by DKAtoday (3265) from Coon Rapids, MN 23 hours ago
That is why we are here. We are fighting corruption and economic slavery. So in a sense this is our choosing not to be enslaved. Happy now? ↥like ↧dislike reply edit delete permalink [-] 0 points by fairforall (241) 23 hours ago
My happiness is not the discussion.......it is whether a person can choose to not be enslaved. You have evidently come to the same conclusion I have. We are making progress. ↥like ↧dislike reply permalink
It's very clear he/she is trying to use a word as a way of introducing bullshit Libertardian ideas. He/she thinks he's being very clever, that he will somehow ensnare others in a rhetorical trap that he will spring. But he's too stupid to realize that his simple-minded cleverness is transparent, and an easily identified ploy to make a meaningless, rhetorically based non-point. He fails to consider that others are not as stupid as he makes them out to be; they are not as stupid as he is.
Best to ignore then. No need to feed.
You can chose to be enslaved or not . . . Wow that could be cited in an informal logic class as the perfect example of a logical non-sequitur. Thanks.
You're welcome. Are you enslaved? If so, why?
What kind of idiot comment is that?
"-2 points by fairforall (225) 10 hours ago
you can choose to be enslaved or not. everyone has options."
I mean - Really?
OK I choose not to be enslaved. ( now do I tap my heels together 3 times? )
HEY!!! back off with that pepper spray. I have chosen not to be enslaved!!!!
Everyone has the responsibility to support themselves and their families. And everyone has talents. Not choosing to push yourself to create an environment where both you and your family can succeed is unacceptable. Accepting enslavement will always guarantee failure.
That is why we are here. We are fighting corruption and economic slavery. So in a sense this is our choosing not to be enslaved. Happy now?
My happiness is not the discussion.......it is whether a person can choose to not be enslaved. You have evidently come to the same conclusion I have. We are making progress.
We are all consumer slaves. Ultimately, we could "choose" not to, but the solutions would be impractical, if not impossible.
The days of the land grabs, are long over.
What century do you believe we are living in?.
I believe you are confusing the reality that we all have needs and the term slave. Investigate.
No, actually I'm combining them and updating them for the current century.
Observe. We are behavior slaves.
Interesting. You are a behaviour slave. Please elaborate.
There you go, twisting things around again.
I said WE are. Just look at your own wiggling around in an attempt to deny it.
Please observe.
We is you and me so not sure where you are arriving at any twisting. Again, how are you a behaviour slave? Or since you seem offended at that - how am I a behaviour slave?
If you are working 2-3 jobs and are still poor, then you REALLY f@$%'d up somewhere down the road. BTW, if there is only 1 job per every 4 applicants, how is it that a poor person can still get 2 or 3 of them?
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Wow, interesting that you would choose to interpret it that way.
You really are an unmitigated schmuck.
How dare you say that? I am quite mitigated!
Nope. A flat-out 100% discarded foreskin. Pure schmuck.
Be nice!
BTW, are you poor?
Be nice? To you?
Hahahahahaha!
But I'm one of the 99% you claim to represent and are fight for.......or is it just the part of the 99% that agree with you?
You are a schmuck. You may be economically part of the 99%, but you are too much of an asshole to understand that we are fighting for you. You would rather denigrate the poor and uphold the values of the 1%. You stand in opposition to the 99%. You are a shill for everything OWS stands in opposition to. And you know it very well, despite your weak attempt at cleverness.
You are nothing but a troll, who enjoys hearing the echo of his empty, meaningless hatred bounce around under the bridge where you live. And while not all schmucks are trolls, all trolls are schmucks. And you, asswipe, fit the description of both.
I only wish I could find the moyel who cut you off and slap him for not flushing you when the procedure was over.
these kind of responses always make me smile. I know they shouldn't......but they do:
You are nothing but a troll, who enjoys hearing the echo of his empty, meaningless hatred bounce around under the bridge where you live. And while not all schmucks are trolls, all trolls are schmucks. And you, asswipe, fit the description of both.
I only wish I could find the moyel who cut you off and slap him for not flushing you when the procedure was over.
Once again, you don't respond to the issues raised. You just start insulting. Why can't you leftists actually have an adult conversation?
Issue? What issue has the schmuck ever raised other than trying to misdirect, misrepresent and lie? What has he done that hasn't been for the express purpose of attempted insult? You right wing shit-for-brains feel free to dish it out, but whine like 3 years when the shoe is on the other foot.
Why the fuck are you morons even here on an OWS support site if you have no intention of offering support? Double standards are really fun aren't they?
No go away and try really hard to grow a brain cell.
Allow me to de-troll myself..... Hello, OWS! I am a TEA Party member here to talk some sense into you, present some facts, and explain my POV. Oh, in my spare time I like to make fun of bitter fools like epa1whatever and a few others with closed minds and no sense of humor.
There, I said it! How do you like me now? ;)
No better than before.
Darn! I was trying soooooooo hard to be your buddy. :(
Still a troll leftover of a penis. Your "sense of humor" as you so generously elevate your hollow cleverness, is always at someone else's expense. Usually the disenfranchised. Your mean-spiritedness is not funny to anyone other that those who like to torture small animals.
And lest you think it oh so funny and clever to make a false connection, I am not equating the disenfranchised with small animals. I am only saying you're the kind of schmuck who thinks sadism is hilarious.
Scum.
I'll bet the kids in your junior high class think you're very funny.
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