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Forum Post: Repubs @center of fear mongering that feeds the war on terror machine. Let's protest 'em all!

Posted 1 year ago on Oct. 16, 2012, 1:25 p.m. EST by VQkag2 (16478)
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http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/national_dems_boost_bachmann_challenger//

Monday, Oct 15, 2012 10:00 AM EDT

National Dems boost Bachmann challenger The Democrat running against Rep. Michele Bachmann has earned more help from his party

By Alex Seitz-Wald

Muslim Brotherhood agents must have infiltrated the campaign arm of House Democrats, because the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee announced today that it’s giving a boost to the Dem candidate running against Minnesota Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann. Just nine months after she ended a surprisingly competitive presidential bid, the infamous Muslim-hunting Tea Party congresswoman is now clinging to her House seat in one of the most watched House races in the country. Her opponent, hotel magnate Jim Graves, the first serious challenger Bachmann has faced in years, has closed on Bachmann in the polls and has earned the confidence of the DCCC, which announced today that it’s adding the Democrat to its Red-to-Blue program, a group of top-tier candidates wh0 can expect “financial, communications, grassroots, and strategic support.”

Graves has surpassed ambitious fundraising, organizing and infrastructure goals, which are required to enter the elite group. “Jim has proven his commitment to standing up for the middle class and creating good-paying jobs for Minnesotans,” DCCC Chairman Rep. Steve Israel said in a press release. “During Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s career in Washington, she has been more focused on being a national right-wing celebrity than on delivering for the Minnesota families she represents. Voters are experiencing buyer’s remorse with Congresswoman Bachmann and her relentless desire to put ideology over solutions.”

The DCCC also announced today that it had outraised its Republican counterpart in September and broken a fundraising record for the third quarter. House Democrats are quietly bullish about their prospects, even though most independent analysts still think Democrats have little hope of winning control of the lower chamber.

UPDATE: Graves campaign manager Adam Graves passed along this statement: “The DCCC’s decision to target our race confirms that this election cycle is by far the best shot we’ve ever had to defeat Rep. Bachmann. Her favorability has been in a free fall ever since her failed presidential bid, and she’s facing her toughest opponent yet — a businessman with a record of creating thousands of private sector jobs. Independents are dramatically shifting in our favor — we’re now up 15%.”

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[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago
[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Repubs in congress blocked the vote to close Gitmo! Pres is still closing it by so far moving out more than half of Bushs indef detention cases from gitmo.

Replace fear mongering conservatives w/ peace loving progressives, & protest all pols against war & rights violations.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Some history on Fear mongering. It IS at the center of our militaristic policies. We must end IT 1st. Can you see how repubs are at the center of this effort.?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fear-mongering-legislation-the-violent-radicalization-and-homegrown-terrorism-prevention-act/7509

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

R fear mongering kept Gitmo open

http://www.salon.com/2010/10/08/fear_9/

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1278) from Milwaukee, WI 1 year ago

Dems and repubs are equal when it comes to fear mongering. It's the only way they can get people to show at the polls.What else do they have?

[-] 1 points by imagine40 (383) 1 year ago

Fear monger Bachman MUST be removed fr intelligence committee!!

http://campaigns.dailykos.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=329

Please sign petition.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Signed.

An individual should have intelligence to be on such a panel/committee.

Boner won't make the removal ( as she fits his program ) but getting people to complain and see that no action is taken by Boner will be another down check for him in the public eye.

[-] 2 points by imagine40 (383) 1 year ago

At the very least they should have intelligence, and even though a civil war is growing within the republican party they still seem to be caving to the wacko extremist tea party.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

But she offers such good entertainment.
Lets put her in a cage and donate her to Barnum & Bailey
Wasn't it PTBarnum who said "there's a sucker born every minute" ? and many of them live in her district

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

Obama = the infamous Muslim-hunting

it'd his solution to the attacks of the US embassy in Libya

no examination of what brought this attack

just hunt hunt hunt

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You should not vote for Obama.

But please don't pretend that the repubs are not the only ones still maintaining the fear mongering that is the foundation of the war on terror, drone bombings, and rights violations.

Replace fear mongering conservatives w/ peace loving progressives, & protest all war & rights violations.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

obama lead the kill squad yesterday

each of the 2 party candidates take turns yelling kill

[-] 2 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 1 year ago

Instead of scaring the population into supporting the phony war on terror, we should focus on the homegrown terrorists. There have been many more attacks from extremists in America than any Al Qeada/Taliban/Muslim attacks.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-urges-dhs-to-reassess-resources-after-key-analyst-reveals-unit-on-domestic-terror-was-scaled-back

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

that or turn to helping the populous through healthcare

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 1 year ago

I like both. In fact if we get a single payer health plan in place there will be enough savings to restore the cuts congress made to home grown terrorist crime.

So both would do just fine

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Funny.

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

just a bunch of names in the first paragraph of that

[-] 2 points by inclusionman (7064) 1 year ago

Ok. thanx. fixed it. Should be a petition from the great anti war org JustForeignPolicy.org.

Good luck.

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

ms obama said the greatest threat to national security are fat people. has she looked in the mirror lately? has she told janet naoplitano, kagan, hillary?

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Do you hate Mrs Obama because she is black? Is that why you mock her good efforts and lie about what she has said.?

[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

SHE said that the greatest threat to national security are fat people. she said it, not me. its laughable. she ought to pratice what she pontificates.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Do you hate Mrs Obama because she is black? Is that why you mock her good efforts and lie about what she has said.?

[-] -3 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

i dont need her to be my mother , telling me what i should be eating, its none of he business. i didnt lie about what she said. she said".................childhood obesity isnt just a public threat, its not an economic threat, its a national security threat as well". she said that because fat children could never get into the military.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Is it because she is black that you hate, & mock her?

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

she and mayor bloomberg,......two of a kind,..both think you're qualified to live your own life and make your own choices.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Do you hate Mayor Bloomberg because he is Jewish?

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

i dislike his totalitarian policies.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Didn't you use an anti semetic slur against Mayor Bloomberg?

[-] -1 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

No , i did not. if you think i did ,cite it.

[-] 4 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Only racist slurs against black people?

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I'll look 4 yr anti Semitic slur.

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

you can look, but you wont find anything because i never posted anything regarding that.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Are you sure? Was it just the racist slurs against black people?

[-] -2 points by aville (-678) 1 year ago

im quite sure,.............thats why you cant cite .

[-] 1 points by repubsRtheprob (1209) 1 year ago

Domestic Terrorism efforts cut, while fear mongering spewed over the Muslims.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBOIYMuxQo

http://www.economist.com/node/21560566

Meanwhile Right wing wacko makes money from book while servingtime for bombings

http://www.economist.com/node/21560566

It's bizarro world.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 year ago

If you know she said it, they know she said it.

Do you know what the Pentagon has said is the greatest threat to our nation?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

CorpoRATions? WallStreet? Fossil Fuel????

No? Well one could hope for true recognition somewhere.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 year ago

The Pentagon has stated, that the biggest threat to our nations security and future, is global warming.

I thought you knew that?

As a matter of fact, not long after they made that statement, is when they started building those much theorized FEMA camps.

Coincidence?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Nope - state a truth and then you have an excuse to assemble camps ( for various uses/excuses )

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 year ago

No one believed the truth they stated.

Global warming is the biggest threat.

So they make up stuff about the camps.

Could they be used under other circumstances? Sure.

But they were built as a reaction to global warming.

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[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Biden in the debate stating we will "chase them to the gates of hell"...

Bush "They hate us for our freedoms" has got to be the worst line ever.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Repub fear mongering kept Gitmo open

http://www.salon.com/2010/10/08/fear_9/

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[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 year ago

it's not Repub . It is military interest

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Bidens statement is not "war on terror" rhetoric. It is a required statement regarding a specific attack on our diplomats.

The link above shows the repub war mongering rhetoric. "Al Qaeda is more dangerous than before the WTC attacks"

THAT is repub efforts to keep the endless war on terror alive.

You don't see that difference.?

Pres Obama & Biden never say War on Terror, they eliminated the color coded threat level. All parts of the repub fear mongering.

Try again

[+] -5 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

muslims do hate us for our freedoms. free speech, free press, religious freedom. sharia law prohibits personal freedom. muslim countries are totalitarian theocracies. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago
[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Heres another example. A little older but still valid.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/gop-candidates-viral-fear_b_666651.html

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

The military guys I know who have been over there say that the vast majority of them, like every other human, simply wants to take care of their families and live a decent life.

For every guy like you making false blanket statements, there is someone in the middle east saying we are bombing them simply because all americans hate muslims.

[+] -7 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

when muslims in iran were protesting the election of the totalitarian govt in june, 2009, the govt sent out their thugs and were murdering their own people in the streets. the people cried out for help from the usa, what did obama do?,..................................nothing. muslims kill more of their own people than any foreign govt has.

[-] 0 points by mideast (506) 1 year ago

Since 1948,
11,000,000 Arabs / Muslems have been killed by

nazis ? no
Americans ? no
Jews ? no
communists ? no
Israelis ? no


Arabs / Muslims ? yes > 11,000,000


[-] -2 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

so much for the self proclaimed "religion of peace".

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

We have 14,000 murders a year here, so actually Americans kill each other more often.

[+] -7 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

muslims do it the name of their religion.

[-] -1 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

no they don't.....there is no evidence statistically to back up that claim...its' a BS Fox news talking point....factless.

There is, however, massive amounts of statistical evidence that they do commit suicide terrorism when their country is occupied by a foreign country.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago
[+] -4 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

wrong, they kill their own, reguarly and often. http:www.therligionofpeace.com/

[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

like i've posted every time you've posted that....same could be said for christians:

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm#.UIIgb8VWyuJ

Lets look at our modern day record....I mean i can beat your little site with just sanctions on Iraq...killed 500,000 people....and we said "it was worth it". How many others have we killed with our drone strikes? Pakistan alone was estimated around 3400 people...many of whom were innocent civlians....this is ONE country that we're dropping drone strikes on...one. I've lost count how many we're currently bombing and i'm sure the death toll is through the roof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

567,000 was the figure only for children under the age of five that died in Iraq as a result of sanctions. The total deaths from sanctions numbered in the millions.

Not to mention the millions that fled Iraq to avoid the sanctions, and ended up in Syria, which turned out to be a bad choice, but how were they to know?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

If your against war on terror kick this fear mongerer off intel committee

http://site.pfaw.org/site/PageServer?pagename=bachmann_intelligence&autologin=true&s_src=pfaw_home

[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

Copied and pasted from my post to another person not knowledgeable on terrorism:

Man...you gotta educate yourself. Muslim "extremism" has nothing to do with attacking us for our freedoms...that's ridiculous. All you have to do is sit down and actually watch one of them speak for like 2 seconds to realize why they fight. Foreign occupation of their country and/or holy sites. People like you feed this BS story and fuel fear in people...instead of actually studying the situation a little bit and actually understanding your supposed enemy. Read Robert Papes "dying to win" where he has done the most comprehensive study on suicide terrorism to date. Studies every suicide terrorist attack going back to the early 80's, and charts all the known data about why they occur. People like you claim their ("terrorists") aim is just to people because of their freedoms...no matter where and however they can. The problem is the data doesn't support your conclusion...at all. IF islamic fundamentalism really sought to just target free peoples around the world....why does Hamas and Al-qaeda ONLY attack countries occupying their land? Hamas focuses on Israel (for palestine) and Al-qaeda the US for occupation of the Arabian Peninsula. Al-qaeda has not attacked Israel...and Hamas hasn't attacked the US.

Lets look at the initiation of attacks and see if we can conclude something. Al-qaeda never attacked the US before 1990....what happened in 1990? Same year we sent troops to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Bahrain. Arabian penisula went from 693 troops in 1989 to 31,636 in 1990.

Bin laden even openly (you can watch this on freaking youtube) explains the motivations on the attacks...and it is to "remove western troops from our holy lands."

You say that Al-qaeda attacks European countries....there wasn't a single european attack from al-qaeda UNTIL european troops arrived in afghanistan in 2001 and iraq in 2003. Now look at Lebanon and Hezbollah. Hezbollah was the first modern suicide terrorist organization. How did it form? When French, Americans and Israel invaded Lebanon. Israel had a massive occuption of the country when it started. Before 1982 Hezbolllah didn't exist...what happened in 1982? Israel invaded. Israels initial invasion was estimated to kill 3000-5000 civilians and left around 70,000-80,000 homeless. So it was worse than our sept 11 attacks. Look how many people we've killed because of our sept 11th attacks....according to your logic we should be labeled terrorists who just enjoy killing people for the fun of it. But we know that is ridiculous...we're protecting ourselves.....just like they are. Another key point of Papes findings based on data collected on individual terrorists. The suicide terrorists as a whole are not uneducated or poor......they were usually middle class and had good educations and jobs.

Educate yourself....and stop spewing ignorant uneducated BS.

Great video for people like you to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-PeSwD5o8

[+] -6 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

islam has been at war with the civilized world ever since islam was invented in the 7th century.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17898) 1 year ago

'@lva' : blah ; blaH ; blAH ; bLAH ; BLAH !!!

Your needle has stuck on your only record again !!

Go on admit it, your secret's safe here - you don't like Muslims, right ?!

gnothi seauton, lol ...

[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

That's all you got in response? Nothing challenging the facts?

What is "civilized"???? Some BS statement that says if you're against my beliefs then you're uncivilized.

One could say the same thing about Christianity....look a the atrocities that have occurred because of it:

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm#.UH3WNsVWyuI

It isn't religion....it's group think that twists religion...you can't put a label on all christians and say because these events have happened...all christians share that same belief....just like you can't do it to the Muslim world.

[-] 0 points by ronniepaul2012 (214) 1 year ago

Shadz is a master of ad hominem and latin

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (17898) 1 year ago

No compromise with bigots and hate-mongers - not on this forum any time soon in any case !!

My "blah, blaH" comment below to 'Forum Islamophobic Hatemonger In Chief, alva' - actually ends in Greek on this occasion and which means the same as ...

temet nosce ...

[+] -5 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

civliized,...................people that dont execute other people because they're gay,people that dont murder their people for leaving or speaking out against the state religion, ( muslim totalitarian theocracies do). arab muslims own black christian slaves in the sudan. civilized? NO. where in the current world are christians murdering people in the name of their religion?

[-] 0 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

Took me 20 seconds:

http://www.alternet.org/story/150899/how_american_evangelism_triggered_the_murder_of_gays_overseas

It wasn't that long ago Christians were murdering people in this country for being "witches". Does that mean all christains are evil? No.....it doesn't....does it mean a few radicals twisted the teachings and turned it into something it isn't....yes, it does.

My point is look at why they are killing people...is there a motive? Yes...a direct motive linked specifically to occupation of their country....there is no refuting this. Suicide terrorism ceases to exist when there isn't an occupying force....religion is not strong enough on its own to create suicide terrorism on current scales...another one of Papes findings from all the data compiled.

You talk about people murdering their people for speaking out against state. There are many countries overseas that we willingly turn the other way for that are doing this to their people:

http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido/2011/03/17/7978/bahrain-govt-forces-killing-civilians-to-crush-protest-movement/

Or what about our good buddy Saudi Arabia....where many of the supposed "hijackers" from 911 were from. We're more than happy to let them have their way:

http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/the-growing-rebellion-in-saudi-arabia/84/

You talk about a countries suppression of certain people (even though we support certain countries doing this)......just because a country hasn't evolved as fast as ours doesn't make the people more evil than anyone else. It wasn't that long ago that this nation...based on a majority of christian beliefs...considered it ok to imprison and force the black community into labor and horrific conditions. Again, that doesn't make all christians evil. Countries evolve at different paces....not in unity.

[+] -4 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

the witch trials were CENTURIES ago. muslims are murdering everyday in the name of their religion. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[-] -1 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

So what if it was centuries ago...what does that prove???? The world doesn't evolve at the same pace everywhere......like i said...it wasn' tthat long ago that we were guilty of slavery here in this country.

You haven't refuted anything i've said about why they try to kill us....i'll take that as agreeance with my argument.

[-] -1 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

lol...VQ's gotta slip in the right vs left jab....overall in the GOP i do agree however...there is a lot of fear mongering.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Bachman and her Muslim witch hunt,

Lyndsey Graham and his criticism that dems are weak on terror and "trying to paint a picture that al Qaeda is dead"

Peter King (R NY) "Al Qaeda is more dangerous than before 9/11"

Generic right wing wackos screaming to invade Iran, and increase the defense budget.

There's more. It is overwhelming.

The propaganda came 1st, and it must go 1st.

[-] -3 points by throaway (57) 1 year ago

Bachmann and the 4 other congressmen were right to question Wiener's ex wife. They wrote a private letter to State, and in typical liberal fashion it was released to the democrats with bylines to be ridiculed and never really addressed. SHe has quite the radical muslim pedigree. But you probably don't know this cuz Maddow and Mathews didn't cover the story objectively.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Ah so you are afraid of Wieners wife and the scary Muslims?

Don't be afraid no one can hurt this country.

When the republicans try to scare you they are playing you. You should be more afraid of Bachman and any politician who trample our constitutional rights as Bachman tried to do to our Muslim fellow citizens.

[-] -3 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

centuries,.as in hundreds of years ago, muslims are murdering every day , ( current time) in the name of their so called " religion of peace" slavery in this country was abolished about 150 yrs ago. arab muslims currently own black christian laves in the sudan. did you go to the website? did you go through all of it? muslims are murdering everyone, not just americans. are familiar with the murder of theo van gogh? go the site and read it. http://thereligionofpeace.com/

[-] -2 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

Yeah i read your site...did you read mine about christians...and the attrocities on their record?

http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm#.UH3WNsVWyuI

But there is a major difference between you and me....christians have been involved in horrendous disgusting acts of violence...but that doesn't mean i associate christianity....or group all christians in that category like you do for muslims.

"centuries, as in hundreds of years ago, muslims are murdering every day".....so did christians! For hundreds of years....murder people in the name of their religiion...or a holy land....or to ward off the devil...or some other excuse to kill others who don't follow the same ideas that you do....they also have massive historical blood on their hands. We're not talking about history right now. We're talking about why the so called "extremists" attacked our country...and attack our troops and allies troops overseas....and there is a very direct correlation...supported by massive amounts of factual data and statistics since these attacks started some 30 years ago that you refuse to look at...and in its place just blame the muslim faith.

[+] -4 points by alva (-442) 1 year ago

islam is not about extremists. its islam, everydy all day

[-] -2 points by john23 (-272) 1 year ago

Yeah, can't talk sense into people like you...you will remain ignorant no matter how many facts get thrown in front of your face.

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