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Forum Post: Art vs Austerity: Who Wins?

Posted 1 year ago on May 24, 2013, 10:28 a.m. EST by shooz (17792)
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In this case, it would appear that art doesn't have a chance.

If you have something nice?

They will take it from you.

http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/05/selling-off-of-detroit-institute-of-arts-priceless-collection-on-the-table-to-address-detroits-crushing-debt.html

Plus they'll dump their pet coke next to your river.

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[-] 9 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

This would set a baaaad precedent.

[+] -7 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

So, they already sold yours?

[-] 7 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

No, in fact our art museum just opened a $162 million expansion last year. It must suck to be Detroit.

However, I'm partially mistaken. A precedent has already been set, to a degree. If you haven't seen it already, check out the documentary 'The Art of the Steal.' If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say your collection is toast.

[+] -8 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Nice to know you're cheering it on.

[-] 9 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Where in the hell do you get that dumb ass idea from my statement? That's why I don't usually respond to your posts, shooz. You seem to enjoy getting confrontational with just about everyone on this forum. For the record, 'The Art of the Steal" infuriated me. Does that give it a better perspective?

[+] -6 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

Yap, shooz is a troll who likes to attack others, very often in mob attack style with DKAtoday. They perfected the art of mob attacks on this forum. They are always here and that's what they mostly do, attack others, especially new users.

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I don't have much of a problem with DK, but this shit here is exactly why I ignore any post by shooz. I read them, but I don't bother commenting. This was a rare exception.

[+] -5 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

Same here, except I attack him back when he starts his mob attacks against me (which is every day). He's just a disgruntled old man. He and DKAtoday like to play the role of forum prosecutors. I think a lot of people here are starting to get tired of the Twinkle Team.

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I don't bother attacking back, I just move on to the next post. His first comment says it all. He's either too stupid to know what "set a bad precedent" means, or he just likes confrontation.

Or maybe both.

[+] -4 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

Almost all his comments are confrontational. Almost all his comments reek of dumbness. He's just uneducated. Not his fault. We need to accept these kinds of people in Occupy, but we must find a way to make them understand that constantly attacking other users doesn't help our cause. We also need to work hard to educate them.

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

You're 100% correct; attacking other users, especially newcomers, is counterproductive and antithetical. I'm sure more than a few potential supporters have been chased away from the forum because of it.

[+] -10 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Perhaps it was your "dumb ass" bragging about St Lou's expansion and your lack of comment about how in Detroit it's being done by an EM.

That's a statement, not a question.

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/disaster-capitalism-strikes-hedge-funds-circle-near-bankrupt-municipalities-vultures

How about some news from Missouri?

I can help.

http://www.progressmissouri.org/alec-exposed-missouri-who-writing-our-laws

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/04/12079/report-progress-missouri-highlights-alec-infiltration-mo

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Missouri_ALEC_Politicians

" It must suck to be__", is a rather popular put down, or weren't you aware?

[-] 8 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

I wasn't bragging about anything, dumb ass. It was a statement. I don't brag on St. Louis because personally I can't stand this town, a sentiment I've expressed a few times on here. No surprise you missed that.

I'm not bothering with your links. And I've already commented on an earlier thread of yours about your problem with Orr, respectfully too, I might add. What, you don't remember? No surprise. Do an archive search.

And it doesn't suck to be Detroit? So I guess your perfectly happy with the current state of affairs there, then. Which would make you a whining hypocrite on top of your other stellar qualities. Fuck your incessant ALEC links, shooz. And I won't be bumping this thread anymore, either, so save it, smart ass.

[-] 1 points by FreddyHaynes (-49) 1 year ago

Bravissimo!!!!

[-] -2 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Don't worry, your bot buddies will bump it for you.

Just remember, it was YOU who called me a dumb ass.

Then your last word here is smart ass.

Seems like you have an anal fixation.

BTW, I did a check on the Michigan threads. Couldn't find a comment from you anywhere.

So perhaps you'd like to give a detailed reiteration of your comment on Orr?

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

Okay, I'll bite once.

First, I don't have any "bot buddies." The fact the Thrasymaque came to my defense has less to do with him being my 'buddy' and more to do with his problem with your attitude.

Second, me calling you a dumb ass is an observation. It's no secret on this forum you're not too bright. I guess if I called you a dumb fuck, you'd claim I have a "fuck fixation." If I had called you a dumb shit, you'd claim I had a "shit fixation." So your "anal fixation" comment is just childish and typical.

And third, it wasn't necessarily on a Michigan thread I commented. It may not have even been your thread, I don't recall. But if you think I'm going to waste my time checking every thread over the last couple months, you're sadly mistaken. I made a comment about something, you put up a link about Orr being appointed and asked me something to the effect "what's your opinion about this?" I told you I'd check the link but, and I quote, "may or may not reply because of your confrontational attitude." You replied defending your attitude, saying sometimes confrontation is necessary. While that's correct in certain circumstances, I should have specified "confrontational attitude on this forum." I stand by my statement to Mr. T that on this forum it's counterproductive and antithetical. I did, in fact read your link and did in fact respond. My exact words were, "You guys are getting fucked."

Ring a bell?

[-] 0 points by gestopomillyy (1695) 1 year ago

omg you sound like sheldon and leonard

[-] -2 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

I'd respond to your insults in kind, but I think it's enough that you welcome support, from a manipulative, disruptive, divisive, liar, that likely suffers from psychosis.

Your insightful comment on emergency managers, gives one pause, considering your State motto.

That can only indicate that you know and accept ALEC's influence in your State.

Shall I look for Koch brothers influence too. or are you already aware and in acceptance of that too?

PS, I will expect you to either ignore this response or return with more insults.

[-] 4 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 1 year ago

So, let me get this straight. By your logic, either my comment "You guys are fucked," or the state motto of Missouri, "Show Me," means I know of and accept ALEC's influence in my state. Heheheh, oh, jeez! I don't need to insult you, shooz. You're doing a good enough job yourself.

And Thrashy speaks for himself. I never said I welcomed or encouraged his support. I don't really give a fuck what Mr. T says or does.

Big-time FAIL. Now, I'm done. See you on another thread, big boy.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Whatever.

That's just raw data that doesn't prove a thing.

Considering you're quite the name caller yourself, you have little wiggle room.

How that repeal of "right to work" coming along?

http://www.michaelmoore.com/

Or perhaps you're just admitting to being a bot runner.

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/disaster-capitalism-strikes-hedge-funds-circle-near-bankrupt-municipalities-vultures

http://interoccupy.net/natgat2/2013/05/ng2kzoo-news-5-20-13/

I don't suppose you had anything at all to do with this?

http://interoccupy.net/occupythenra/mothers-day-eve-march-against-gun-violence/

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago
[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Nice adage.

Hows those bots running?

http://media.progressflorida.org/files/alecinflorida.pdf

Note, it says unprecedented.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/07/11675/new-report-shows-alecs-unprecedented-influence-over-florida

You see, these show actual stuff, not stuff YOU made up.

You've just grown to like it, just like your love of Koch brothers products.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Here's how ALEC gets the money and the power to do what they do:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/alec-board-members/

[+] -4 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

It was you who shifted topics.

It's you who can't explain what you post.

Just like your John Birch Society and breitbart posts.

You never explained.

On the other hand............

Funding is 34 to 1, and that explains a lot.

Quite a ratio, really. It takes your incessantly posted unexplained link down 34 notches.

ALEC already owns Florida. You just like it that way, so you find ways to ignore and minimize that simple reality.

Now, don't you have Koch brothers stuff to install in some houses your going to flip, or are you too busy with your PR firm?

[+] -5 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

As usual you got nothing.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/34-to-1/

[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Shift topics much?

[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Aw name calling.

You don't follow the links, because you are afraid of the truth.

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[-] -1 points by l0v0l (-2) 1 year ago

Calm down big boy, you're going to have a heart attack. Try to be nice with other people.

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[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Excuse me?

Do I know you? It seems you just arrived.

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[+] -7 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

You seem to having an issue with your keyboard.

It's not making sense.

Did you take my pills by accident?

Report to hospital, for tests and a stomach pumping.

Hurry. Before it's too late. You're losing your cognitive abilities.

[+] -5 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

Troll. Stop attacking everyone on this forum with your nonsense.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

http://www.michaelmoore.com/

It's you who's always on the attack.

"What goes around, comes around."

---Waylon Jennings---

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

The question remains; why are some institutions too big to fail, while the rest of us get sold off to the highest bidder?

[-] 1 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

Because, capitalism only works at the beginnings, when everyone is at the same level. Businesses then start to compete until some become very big and unstoppable. Back in the mid 70's you could start a personal computer company in your garage. This is what Apple, Microsoft, and others did. Now there's almost no way you could start a company with a new OS for a personal computer. Google was able to start a new one when mobile devices came out, yet a new field.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Well, I thought it was because we are ruled by a criminal cartel, and rest of us are just numbers on a page.

[-] 0 points by DiegoSanchezAlfonso (-155) 1 year ago

We are ruled by huge corporations who have become near monopolies.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

The question answers itself.

The rest of us get sold off to pay for too big to fail.........

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

We (collectively speaking) need to continually point out the hypocrisy of their propaganda campaign, and take to the streets until some form of sanity returns to the situation.

If they want a war. that's what they'll get. How we react, is still our choice.

[-] 2 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

I like this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuKUJCPMly8

Just for something positive.

[-] 5 points by Renneye (3314) 1 year ago

This is beautiful...thank you.

Perspective.

Paul Chappell - Why Peace Is Possible & How We Can Achieve It

Paul Chappell = Active Peace = Love

[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Waging peace is a concept long over due.

He's also active here.

http://www.wagingpeace.org/

[-] 0 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

The city needs to find a way to save the Museum. It isn't Michigans issue or a Federal issue.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Detroit is a city under siege.

Or perhaps you're not aware of that situation?

[-] -2 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

I understand that it is. It doesn't help when they elected Kwame the criminal as mayor.

Museums in other cities are flourishing. What other things did Detroit do wrong? America can't save Detroit, Detroit needs to save Detroit.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Why don't you describe your level of understanding?

At this point is seems rather shallow.

[-] -1 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

The city is broke, they judge that they need to sell their assets to pay bills. The art institute is an asset they judge they can part with. What don't you understand? This is really simple.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

That was even shallower.

It does, however beg the question......Who are "they"?

[-] -1 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

No my post was honest, not remotely shallow. You seem to struggle with honesty. Why?

Dave Bing.

[+] -4 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

It's incredibly shallow. Made more so by your instance that's it's not.

Detroit has been a 'sacrifice zone" for many decades.

You're just snatching at recent headlines.

[-] -2 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

Your brain appears to be disorganized. If its a sacrifice zone, it can only blame itself. Chicago has teeming museums. They should mimic Chicago.

[-] -1 points by ZenDog (13315) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

it's Trashy Macaque . . . the little pink pantied penis poser

back to editing his/her/its comments

having so successfully destroyed the forum, now back to see about a resurrection?

you really need medication

[+] -4 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

I knew you'd be attacking unions soon.

Will you blame it on the UAW?

The Teamsters?

C'mon, let your misplaced hate out of it's cage for all to see.

[-] -3 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

You really do have a poorly organized brain. I didn't say anything about unions. Serious question: Can you stay on topic? Do you struggle to stay focused?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Cockroach

[+] -4 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago

Amazing what an edit can do.

Here.

Edit this.

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/disaster-capitalism-strikes-hedge-funds-circle-near-bankrupt-municipalities-vultures

Now you can back to how only beautiful women need apply.

[-] -2 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

Nope, can't stay on topic. Odd.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17792) 1 year ago
[-] -2 points by Whetherman1968 (-67) 1 year ago

Odd again, discussing unions when no unions were ever mentioned by me. Very creepy. Stay away from small helpless children. PLEASE.