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Forum Post: Americans, Lazy and Stupid about the despots they elect

Posted 5 years ago on Oct. 16, 2012, 12:02 a.m. EST by matoinyanawacis (157)
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The President needs to explain to the American People that the reason the nation is growing as slowly as it is, is because when he was elected to office, for the first two years he managed to regrow the economy steadily and concurrently get passed a number of bills such as the Lily Leadbetter act, the recovery act stimulus, the auto industry recovery and a number of other beneficial actions for the nations recovery. But then, in 2010, fickle, hot pocket mental patients called Americans, were lied to by the republican party and made to believe that the president was not getting anything done, and stupid and demanding of instant gratification, those Americans were falsely led to believe that if they just put a whole lot of obstructionist tea party extremists into power in the congress, that, Wallah, all the world would be put to right, Bi-partisanship would somehow be reborn, and the United States would become Paradise. “Idiots“.. If you want to fix this economy, and subsequently repair the inequality prevalent in our society, then you have to give the President people who actually truly desire to fix the problem, and right now the only party that has any willingness to do that is the democratic party. There has ONLY been ONE PARTY who has sought to obstruct, disenfranchise, strip rights from and stall any recovery in this nation, and for the sole reason of creating a false impression that it is the Presidents fault that no recovery is occurring so that they can once again seize power and skew our nation further toward even more inequality and benefit’s to the super rich (which by the way is the repugnacan party). The only problem is, is that the ignorant, undereducated and uninformed American Citizenry are accomplices before, during and after the fact. Those Americans who voted IN these ideological zealots, zealots that the American people without a doubt made no attempt to research any truth about, not only caused this sluggish economy, but has also caused the untold suffering of millions of Americans by their unthinking advocacy and election of these ideological fascists into the halls of power in congress. Only the republican party is accepting the support of fascist billionaires who are deliberately threatening their employees to vote the way they want them to or they will lose their job. Last I heard, voter intimidation was a felony. Why none of these billionaires aren’t in handcuffs and being charged with constitutional violations of citizens rights is beyond me… oh that’s right, the laws have been DELIBERATELY made illegal for poor folks to do, but perfectly alright for the rich to do. Last time that type of inequality existed, I believe it was during the 1600’s in France. So Joe, tell me, when do the laws governing murder get changed to allow the rich to kill people on a whim, do you think… Or do you see a world much like Hunger Games coming to fruition? Point is, Capitalism IS NOT the reason for America. It may help drive a healthy economy, but it in no way protects a citizens rights to life and liberty, and at present only serves a few peoples right to pursuit of happiness. Expand your view Joe, you might have more cogent arguments if you do.



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[-] 3 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

"There has ONLY been ONE PARTY who has sought to obstruct, disenfranchise, strip rights"

Like indefinite detention? Listen, fuck both these parties. Either get on board for change or get the hell out of the way. You are only helping them screw us.

[-] 0 points by matoinyanawacis (157) 5 years ago

nice language troll... the only ones screwing us are the rich and the lapdogs they buy in congress... which by the way is about 87% repugnacan, 13% democrat... not that facts ever penetrate your rhetoric anyway, so rant at will, bye bye troll, won't be back

[-] 1 points by NVPHIL (664) 5 years ago

Unfortunately the corps bought the whole system while we weren't gaurding or goverment. Yes the republicans are worse then the democrats. But that's like saying burning to death is worse then dying in your sleep. In the end your still dead. We can lose our rights by a direct attack like the patriot act or with a quiet new years eve signing of the NDAA. In the end our rights are still stolen. The left has been slow on the uptake on defending our rights but you can see it starting with the ACLU's fight against the NDAA. By this time if you have decided to vote for obama or romney I won't change your mind. All I can say is if you don't hold your guy as accountable as you would the other guy then we are all lost.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Go check the voting record in the Senate on NDAA and then get back to me.

[-] 0 points by WeThePeop (-259) 5 years ago

Both parties are screwing us all over

[-] -2 points by podman73 (-652) 5 years ago

Ahhh can't take it when you are questioned can you?

[-] 2 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 5 years ago

I knew the republicans were lying. But I was lied to by the democrat party too. They told me they didn't support the war in Iraq but then I found out a lot of them voted for it, like Biden, and a majority of them funded it, like Obama.

Americans were lied to in 2008 by the media and the tv commercials.

Dennis Kucinich was the only man running in 2008 that actually tried to impeach Bush for war crimes, told the people of America Bush needed to be impeached over and over again, and the ONLY democrat running in 2008 that voted NO to funding the war in Iraq 100% of the time, voted NO on the Patriot Act, and wanted to end the wars and stop the drone strikes immediately, as well as create a Department of Peace..

Many of you probably watched the debate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYWWBwf2wHE

Why didn't more people vote for this guy? Because he didn't have the 1% in his pocket funding commercials to spread his name?

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 5 years ago

We should Demand Representation within the Government. We should Demand Stronger Laws and Rules Against Conflict of Interest and Financial Disclosure Laws. These should be applied equally to employees, regulators, executives in the government, and US Congress.

It IS a No Brainer. Representation means, ending Gift Giving, Campaign Contributions, and Lobbying of Congress.

[-] 1 points by ShubeLMorgan2 (1088) from New York, NY 5 years ago

It is a sad reflection on the State of affairs when OWS itself calls for intervention in Syria.


Any progressive should understand that the GOP needs to be stopped on November 6. This is a prerequisit for any progress in the short term.

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 5 years ago

More DNC bullshit. You people(so called)really do know you are going to lose...

[-] 5 points by NVPHIL (664) 5 years ago

We will all lose if we can't break the stranglhold the two parties have on our go9ernment.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 5 years ago

set up a parliamentary government

start in the house of representatives

where states can elect their representative by giving seats to the most popularly elected candidates in order.

The house of representatives does not need to be determined by district

[-] -1 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 5 years ago

You are more correct than you know. But since OWS has been an arm of the democrats pathetic attempt to create a utopia these rectal polyps will be deaf to any reality.

[-] 3 points by NVPHIL (664) 5 years ago

OWS isn't just the people here. They are the people in the encampments around the world. As for romney winning, even though I don't think it's likely, then what. The corruption will spread faster and the public backlash will be greater. One thing obama is intelligent enough to know when he can push an issue ane the republicans give him the perfect cover to get away with it.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

If you think OWS is a tool of the dem party you just aren't paying attention.

[-] -1 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 5 years ago

Oh I've been paying attention for longer than you think.

[-] 0 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Sure you have...

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

In your dreams. This forum hosts almost equally D & R supporters.

I am not one of them.

[-] -2 points by Grimreaper2 (-318) 5 years ago

True. You are a filthy foreigner with an anti -American slant. Go away and let us solve our own problems.

[-] 3 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

I'm as much a part of the 99% as any westerner.

As for you solving your own problems, if you think this forum is a democrat support-post, you've not read the gist of it yet.

[-] 2 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

Your social skills could use some work.

[-] 2 points by Builder (4202) 5 years ago

You're far too kind.

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 5 years ago

OWS is not like this the camps ive gone to have been ok. Chicago was a mess they kicked me out because i asked to many question about capitalism

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Thats pretty fucked up. Were you just asking around, or were you using the GA as your own conference room?

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 5 years ago

yeah it is

no i was walking around asking people about capitalism and what they thought about it. Then they asked me and since im in favor of capitalism i was called a slaver and things intensified very quickly.

Its safe to say i dont go back for my own safety

[-] 0 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 5 years ago

Hmm. I guess being that Tampa is pretty apathetic, our conversations here are a bit more mild :)

[-] 1 points by DanielBarton (1345) 5 years ago

its Chicago

[-] 1 points by stevebol (1269) from Milwaukee, WI 5 years ago

If it's going to be president Romney then so be it. Two questions; Where are the jobs and when do we start bombing Iran? Should I hold off on my questions for a few weeks?