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Forum Post: ALEC's Most Wanted

Posted 1 year ago on May 6, 2013, 12:24 p.m. EST by shooz (17714)
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Resembling Snyder's secret education "skunk works", ALEC, in spite of it's first amendment calls, doesn't want the first amendment to apply to them.

Money is now the more important component of freedom of speech.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12096/alec-assembles-most-wanted-list-and-oklahomans-say-alec-not-ok

They don't want you to know what laws to control you they are writing for their loyal (R)epelican't adherents.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed, and they hate when that happens.

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[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3280) 1 year ago

If 'money is now the more important component of freedom of speech', then you surely need to read - http://www.nationofchange.org/corporate-cowards-divert-shareholder-funds-dark-money-1368020317 !

[-] 0 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

I love Jim!!

But don't forget the State Policy Network (that's it's real name). That network of evil, GOP think tanks and front groups, that pave the for ALEC.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Portal:State_Policy_Network

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3280) 1 year ago

'Unregulated capitalism is out of control. Like a cancer, it has become "something evil or malignant that spreads destructively," with tumors growing in several once-healthy parts of the American body.' from - http://www.nationofchange.org/cancer-capitalism-1367852286 .

And also see http://www.nationofchange.org/story-may-day-fed-apple-and-trickle-down-economics-1367503093 . Corporations Are NOT People! Money Is NOT Speech! Ever! Never Give Up Occupying!

[-] 6 points by Ache4Change (3280) 1 year ago

'Today most Americans live in suburbs conceived as staging areas for consumption. They move about in the enclosure of cars and shop in the anonymity of malls from which community activities are largely excluded. Politics consists mostly of negative ads shown on television screens. Then people wonder why they feel lonely and depressed, and why the sense of community has vanished.', from your link. Sigh. Yet we can still be a http://www.nationofchange.org/ working for 'The Common Wealth' too.

'“The highest interests of the community and the indispensable things of life have no exchange value and are neglected if supply and demand are allowed to dominate the field,” & “The supporters of the market economy do it the worst service by not observing its limits and conditions.”' (Wlhelm Ropke, 'Austrian Economist' & Ludwig von Mises acolyte)

Thank you for the excellent & very illuminating link which I must recommend to all OWS forum readers. Never Give Up Exposing The Selfish Corporotocracy! Occupy The 99% Agenda! Solidarity.

[-] 4 points by JesseHeffran (3903) 1 year ago

I found the idea conveyed in Michael Sandel's book, "What Money Can’t Buy," really demonstrates how we have evolved from a market economy to a market society. All hail the new god of man, the invisible hand of the market. This type of thinking should really be contemplated and scrutinized.

http://www.libertylawsite.org/book-review/free-market-economy-v-free-market-society/

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxO96M-yHl8

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3280) 1 year ago

Thank you. Though in a rush right now, I leave this link for you - http://www.nationofchange.org/cancer-capitalism-1367852286 but will investigate your link & revert later. Never Give Up Occupying! Solidarity :)

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

In compliment - oppose BS carried out by the ALEC supporters ( cadre ?) :

Yesterday, I sent the alert below urging you to email your Senators to support the confirmation of Gina McCarthy as the new head of EPA.

This morning, we've learned that Senator David Vitter (R-LA) and other Senate Republicans are boycotting today's Environment and Public Works Committee vote on McCarthy's nomination, denying the committee a quorum.

This is the kind of political obstruction we've come to expect on environmental issues, and we need your help to stand up to it. Even if you've already taken action in support of McCarthy's confirmation, please help us deliver a message today urging the Senate to vote to confirm McCarthy. She is a highly qualified public servant. She deserves a clear up or down vote.

Heather ShelbyThank you, HeatherShelbySignature Heather Shelby Action Network Coordinator


Personalize your message.

What I added:

NOTE:

GREED THE #1 CAUSE OF DISEASE/DEATH/DESTRUCTION IN THE WORLD.

ALSO:

Consider this term in connection to supporting pollution/poisoning from fossil fuel extraction - not for need - but for export profits.

Term: Democide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide


TWEET

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

This is killing off the bees and taking out birds. So why are @HomeDepot and @Lowes selling it? http://bit.ly/Yc88xq via @Sum_of_Us Expand

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

Breaking: Sen. Republicans boycott Gina McCarthy's nomination for @EPAgov. Tell them protect people not polluters http://goo.gl/pxJC4#tw3580893 Expand

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[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Political obstruction, is exactly what congress has been doing for at least the last 6 years.

Or at least nothing good.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

And IMO the obstruction in some cases could well be construed as treasonous.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

It is in my book, as it's concerted and purposeful, in an astoundingly negative way.

It is obstruction, just to obstruct, and it hurts us every day.

I figure they are helping to keep this off the front pages.

http://www.mndaily.com/opinion/columns/2013/04/23/pro-austerity-study-debunked

Everything the (R)epelican'ts have told us is wrong, but that reality hasn't changed their "message" in the least..

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Everything the (R)epelican'ts have told us is wrong, but that reality hasn't changed their "message" in the least..

No it hasn't they are committed to being stupid and should be committed.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

They're PAID to be stupid!!!

Why else would they need ALEC to write their laws for them?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

They're PAID to be stupid!!!

And they are naturals at it - about as smart as a box of rocks (no offense intended rocks ).

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Victims of their own mental health policies.

I haven't looked yet, but it wouldn't surprise me to find ALEC written legislation behind this too.

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/16193-more-mentally-ill-becoming-homeless-because-states-wont-help

The petition.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/611/432/314/help-mentally-ill-so-they-dont-become-homeless/

no wonder the country is going insane, they've been at this since the 80's.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Tweet

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday Protected account 8s

More Mentally Ill Becoming Homeless Because States Won’t Help http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/16193-more-mentally-ill-becoming-homeless-because-states-wont-help … Austerity = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide Expand


People - Personalize your petition response - http://www.thepetitionsite.com/611/432/314/help-mentally-ill-so-they-dont-become-homeless/

What I added:

Austerity = Democide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

Excerpt:

The objectives of such a plan of democide include the disintegration of the political and social institutions of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups; the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity; and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.[7]

And tweet:

Help Mentally Ill So They Don't Become Homeless - The Petition Site http://www.thepetitionsite.com/611/432/314/help-mentally-ill-so-they-dont-become-homeless/ Austerity = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide Consider/Share

[-] -1 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

I still don't agree with the neuro-linguistic implications of the first syllable of the term, but it's intent is very accurate.

BTW, The brothers Koch and their allies, have helped the World reach a milestone that ALEC legislation has made possible.

As you might suspect, it isn't a positive milestone.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/10/carbon-dioxide-highest-level-greenhouse-gas

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I still don't agree with the neuro-linguistic implications of the first syllable of the term, but it's intent is very accurate.

Yes that 1st syllable is unfortunate - but here in the USA we are supposed to be living in a Democracy - so in a way it is also very apt - very sad but apt.


The World "IS" in CRISIS

Tweet

Global carbon dioxide in atmosphere passes milestone level http://gu.com/p/3fmv2/tw via @guardian We Need Immediate Change - Clean Change

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

It's a milestone that got zero attention in the US press.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

It's a milestone that got zero attention in the US press.

Now this is funny ( kinda in a way ) because: ( look at this e-mail )

Break out the tin foil hats, folks.

House Speaker John Boehner and the chairman of the House Science Committee are both unsure whether the science behind climate change -- the stuff that shows pretty clearly that carbon pollution produced by humans is damaging our environment -- is real.

Instead, they're on the record saying things like this:

"The idea that carbon dioxide is a carcinogen that is harmful to our environment is almost comical. Every time we exhale, we exhale carbon dioxide. Every cow in the world, you know, when they do what they do, you've got more carbon dioxide." - John Boehner, April 2009

As long as our members of Congress continue to develop their own theories behind climate change, we will fall further and further behind in our ability to make actual progress on this issue.

Make them do better. Add your name to join OFA's team that will hold climate deniers in Congress accountable:

http://my.barackobama.com/Hold-Climate-Deniers-Accountable

We owe it to our environment and our economy to start having real talk on climate change.

Join us -- and we'll be in touch with next steps soon.

Thanks,

Messina

Jim Messina Chair Organizing for Action


Gonna here all kinds of shit for posting that one - Hey?

Is he real or not? Seriously conflicted if nothing Else.

Anyway the tin foil hat communication is a good one to communicate to the public.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Giggle, snort.......LOL!!

Boehner is an ass of legendary proportion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017118061

Someone needs to ask him, which way is up?

The confusion will likely hospitalize him.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Someone needs to ask him, which way is up?

The confusion will likely hospitalize him.

LOL - Now THAT is FUNNY. Sad also as he is in office.

[-] -1 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 1 year ago

Is ALEC so active in Michigan because they want Detroit to keep making crappy cars that poison our air with CO2? Do they also discourage public transportation?

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

No.

ALEC is active in every State in order to serve the corporate agenda.

It's what they do. It's ALL they do.

Destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

The Plain and Simple Truth.

Destroying Democracy, one State at a time.

[-] 0 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 1 year ago

replying to below

You go girl! I like it.

[-] -1 points by JackPulliam3rd (205) 1 year ago

So Detroit and the automobile industry are doing the CO2 thing on their own. Thanks guys. Mother Earth says hi.

At least the House Democrats are attacking the real issue here:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/30/democrats-global-warming-means-more-hookers/

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

As Americans push their state lawmakers to increase the use of green energy sources, the oil industry is not politely stepping aside to allow a transition from dirty fossil fuels to clean energy sources.

Instead, Big Oil is trying to derail efforts in a dozen states to transition some of their energy production to green energy. The American Legal Exchange Council (ALEC), which is the premier front group representing polluters like the oil industry, is helping state lawmakers write bills that would repeal the states' previous commitment to clean energy.

Please join me in demanding that state legislators ignore Big Oil by leaving their committment to clean energy intact. Clean energy provides jobs and can help turn back global warming.

Thank you,

Drew Hudson Environmental Action


From Environmen​t America Executive Director:

It’s a simple enough idea: Cut pollution from our cars and trucks and save thousands of lives each year. That’s what the Obama administration has proposed doing this summer, but Big Oil is of course up in arms.

For the sake of our health and environment, let’s be louder than Big Oil.

Tell the Environmental Protection Agency to cut pollution from cars and trucks.

Our cars and trucks are a lot cleaner than they used to be, but they’re still a major source of air pollution that triggers asthma attacks and even premature death. EPA’s new standards would help address this by reducing sulfur levels in gasoline and by requiring lower emissions of other pollutants from our vehicles.

But despite projections that the standards will prevent up to 2,400 premature deaths each year, Big Oil is lobbying hard against the standards. We have public health experts, environmentalists and even the automakers on our side, but not Big Oil -- and Big Oil has big sway in Washington.

That’s why this public comment period is so important. We need to show President Obama and his administration that Americans are counting on them to stand up to Big Oil by keeping these standards strong and finalizing them this year.

Let the EPA know you want strong pollution standards for cars and trucks finalized this year.

And many thanks in advance. With your help, we can cut pollution from our vehicles today, securing cleaner air for our communities today and for future generations.

Margie Alt Executive Director Environmen​t America

[-] -3 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

A tweet is useless compared to activism in the street. It is slackivism.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

LoneStranger - still here? Go be Strange somewhere ELSE.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Tweet's are useless?

HAH!

That must be why OWS uses it as it's main communication network.

You really should stop makin' stuff up.

It's getting boring.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

LoneStranger is still trying to belittle the power of internet social media communications to spread information far and wide and fast.

Removes any doubt or it should of whether or not it is a shill - Verdict in A LONG TIME AGO -SHILL and it keeps consistent in eventually exposing itself.

[-] -2 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

The Internet is great for passing infos around. The problem is OWS should be about protesting, not tweeting all day like you do. Protest 95% of the time and tweet what happened the 5% that's left. That would make sense.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Fail ur

a

Failure

[-] 0 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

Why do you write like a 12 year old girl sending text messages?

[-] -1 points by ProblemSolver (79) 1 year ago

I see thrashy has you in her sites this past little while .. I think everyone has experienced what you are going through .. just hang in there .. she will give up soon enough..

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

And amazingly, able to post for 24 hour periods of time, almost nonstop.

Could it be a ROBOT INVASION?

Could it be it's own private conspiracy theory?

Yes.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (19685) 3 minutes ago

How did it ever get 21 points?

It's an extremely pointless poster.

In other Koch/Alec news.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05/mark-sanford-congress-south-carolina-koch ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

21? really? OH - Hey - No quandary - it always votes 4 itself with socks -and then denies it.

Now about http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05/mark-sanford-congress-south-carolina-koch

Koch-Linked Women's Group Takes Credit for Mark Sanford's Win

Women's group - that is just wrong and very very sad.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

It borders on that overused term......Orwellian.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

A very determined shill if nothing else like loopy/deranged .........

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

How did it ever get 21 points?

It's an extremely pointless poster.

In other Koch/Alec news.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/05/mark-sanford-congress-south-carolina-koch

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (19688) 7 minutes ago

It borders on that overused term......Orwellian. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

Stuck on Stupid??? Was that Orwellian? Huh

[-] -1 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

OWS became famous from street protests, not tweets. Tweets of for lazies and children. Activists go outside from time to time. You would learn a lot from participating in an OWS event.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Unlike you, OWS is also highly issue oriented.

While you remain assumptive, presumptive and issue free.

And not a little insulting to many of the regular posters on the site.

Why not offer a comment and further information on, say ALEC?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (19692) 3 minutes ago

Back on subject.

ALEC's latest poster boy is proven wrong again, but I doubt there will be much admission to that fact.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/facts-are-in-and-paul-ryan-is-wrong.html ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

LOL I was pretty sure that you meant lyin Ayn Ryan.

BTW - makes a fine tweet -

The Facts Are In and Paul Ryan Is Wrong http://nym.ag/15vxlIC via @Intelligencer Purveyor of Austerity/Democide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Being wrong, hasn't stopped him yet.

But then, so much is so very wrong.

With all the attacks on pay for public sector union workers, He, nor any of them has suggest a steep cut in pay and benefits for the TOP paid posts among public "workers".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022822486

It would seem most should be paid directly by the NFL.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Ur gonna make it choke -

Why not offer a comment and further information on, say ALEC?

[-] -1 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

Dumb and dumber. But who's dumber, you or shooz?

You guys are funny operating as a team from the same retirement home.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

One thing is for sure. He's not capable of that.

He's not issue oriented. He seems not to know what the issue's even are.

Especially now that he is acting more like ironbrain, rather than thrashy.

Will the resurrection of the "bridge to the ground" stuff be next for it?

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 2 points by shooz (19700) 12 minutes ago

Being wrong, hasn't stopped him yet.

But then, so much is so very wrong.

With all the attacks on pay for public sector union workers, He, nor any of them has suggest a steep cut in pay and benefits for the TOP paid posts among public "workers".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022822486

It would seem most should be paid directly by the NFL. ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

That is exactly why the republican party ( really the corpoRATist party at this point in time) is Dying - hell they are losing people in the red states not to mention the blue states.

If we had election by approval voting instead of what is done now - the government would look a lot different right now - IMO.

http://link.upworthy.com/4fcfcb2462047742c9927ebbzoa6.2c/UYpe6MJSNbQEsDffC4876

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

[-] 1 points by shooz (19692) 3 minutes ago

One thing is for sure. He's not capable of that.

He's not issue oriented. He seems not to know what the issue's even are.

Especially now that he is acting more like ironbrain, rather than thrashy.

Will the resurrection of the "bridge to the ground" stuff be next for it? ↥twinkle ↧stinkle permalink

The bridge to the ground - yep - the lack-wit has already brought that up - can't remember where I saw that.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Back on subject.

ALEC's latest poster boy is proven wrong again, but I doubt there will be much admission to that fact.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/facts-are-in-and-paul-ryan-is-wrong.html

[-] -2 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

So when OWS protests ALEC, or the brothers Koch, or the XL they don't meet with you approval

No, they don't. I think OWS spread it's wings much too broadly. Unfortunately, it was infiltrated by politically hungry people like yourself. OWS would have worked better if it had stayed close to its anarchist roots. Back in the early days in Zuccotti Park we really had something going. It started getting messed up and more political as more and more non anarchists joined our troops. People like you ruined OWS. It's almost a political party now. Extremely sad. Perhaps one day we can start another anarchic protest and keep it to stuff like civil disobedience, and playing outside the system.

They are also strongly pro union, yet I don't hear a single word of support about that from you.

I don't like unions because it's another way to place to power into the hands of others. I like anarcho syndycalism where all the employees control their fate.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Shit 4 Brains Shill

[-] -1 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Well then, it's nice for all of us to know that you don't approve of OWS.

No wonder you spend almost all your time here attacking forum users instead of discussing actual issues.

From here on out, I will include that fact in all my dealings with you.

Now if only you would embrace the truth, you might still be of use..

[-] -2 points by LoneRanger (-307) 1 year ago

I don't believe OWS should play into politics at all. I believe in civil disobedience, and anarchy. Furthermore, I don't care for country specific legislations. OWS is an international protest, and US is not even my country. ALEC does not interest me viewed from my OWS eyes. OWS should concentrate on anarchy and global issues. This site is supposed to be the hub of Occupy, and international protest. Unfortunately, it has been taking hostage by talk of US politics which is entirely anti-OWS. Protesters (real activists) don't use this site because they know OWS is not about politics. If you went to even one OWS event you would know as well.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

So when OWS protests ALEC, or the brothers Koch, or the XL they don't meet with you approval??

I'm sure they don't care about your approval, or mine, but protest these things they do.

They are also strongly pro union, yet I don't hear a single word of support about that from you.

Let alone the amount of space you take up disparaging and discouraging, people on this forum.

You should probably just go now. Your assumptions and presumptions are not useful in any way, shape or form.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Very Tweet worthy -

ALEC Assembles "Most Wanted" List, and Oklahomans Say "ALEC Is Not OK" http://j.mp/13lyqyn Awesome protest. ALEC Ur Mask Dropped.

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Because we know who you are

Hahaha.

Which one of you dumb-asses wants to come defend ALEC?

[-] 0 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

My guess, is that they will do what they can to make the thread drop like a stone, by posting some repetitious, gone over it a dozen times, BS.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Second verse same as the first.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago
[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Hell ya. I don't think that people realize how much he is involved in the destruction of education.

[-] -1 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/why-americans-are-so-ignorant-its-not-only-fox-news-there-are-some

Someone else posted this for an entirely different purpose, while cherry picking info.

I find this more accurate and to the point.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022814129

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

It is.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I'm Henry the eighth I am - Henry the eighth I amIam................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2fbpCUmrTE

I got married to the widow next door She's been married seven times before And every one was an Henry (Henry) She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam) I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry Henry the eighth I am

Second verse same as the first

I'm Henry the eighth I am Henry the eighth I am, I am I got married to the widow next door She's been married seven times before And every one was an Henry (Henry) She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam) I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry Henry the eighth I am

------ lead guitar ------

I'm Henry the eighth I am Henry the eighth I am, I am I got married to the widow next door She's been married seven times before And every one was an Henry (Henry) She wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam (no Sam) I'm her eighth old man, I'm Henry Henry the eighth I am

H-E-N-R-Y Henry (Henry) Henry (Henry) Henry the eighth I am, I am Henry the eighth I am

Yeah!

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

lol. You're a hoot, Filbert.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

G-Day GF!!! {:-])

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

G-Day to you!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I see that the usual suspects have not chimed in yet. Probably hoping the post will go away - silently.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Yep-like they do.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Really does tend to hurt their image when they do their attack - makes em stick out like a hammer blasted thumb.

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Ya, but I like 'em where I can see 'em.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Yep - chuckle at their insanity - have fun tryin to slap sense into em ( BTW - also a good cardio exercise ).

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Right smack.

Left smack.

Right smack.

Left smack.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Now ya got the rhythm - lets pick-up the pace.1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 - that's it - nice - feel the burn - deep breaths............................ Doubles 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 good - a little faster - move those feet to the rhythm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhZ2fYQj6IM

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Readers want to know.

"In anticipation of protests at ALEC's recent meeting in Oklahoma City, state legislators were handed a set of talking points that read "The American Legislative Exchange Council recognizes the first amendment rights of free speech and assembly, and asks that _ do the same," apparently to prepare legislators for press questions about citizen activism. But ALEC didn't live up to those spoon-fed talking points: ALEC assembled a dossier of disfavored reporters and activists, kicked reporters out of its conference who might write unfavorable stories, and managed to boot a community forum critical of ALEC from its reserved room."

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12096/alec-assembles-most-wanted-list-and-oklahomans-say-alec-not-ok

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Tweet

Occupy Rallies Against Powerful Right-Wing Group You've Never Heard Of http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/alec-occupy-wall-street-protest-f29 via @motherjones

[-] -3 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

I must have stepped on a few "right" wing toes.

The ALEC lovers are apparently legion.

Here's another tweetable for you.

http://www.alecwc.org/

I wonder how many points I'll lose for posting that?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I must have stepped on a few "right" wing toes.

Don't know about right wing - But definitely F'n corpoRATist shills.

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Is there a difference?

I hadn't noticed...................................:)

ALEC will be in ChiTown this August.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Good food for thought. Thx.

Excerpt:

Along the way, he discovered that our definition of “progress” was seriously misleading, because our statistical indices, such as the Gross Domestic Product, count almost everything business does as progress: i.e., each tree cut down is counted as a plus, while the downside of all those trees lost is not taken into consideration.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/05/06/read-this-our-common-wealth-the-hidden-economy-that-makes-everything-else-work/

[-] -2 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Before it's over, there's even a quote from Mises in support of the collective...................:)

"Ropke, according to the Ludwig von Mises Institute, “devoted his career to combating collectivism in economic, social and political theory.” Yet in a book he wrote called A Humane Economy, Ropke confessed that his beloved market was not to be entirely trusted. “The highest interests of the community and the indispensable things of life have no exchange value and are neglected if supply and demand are allowed to dominate the field,” he wrote. “The supporters of the market economy do it the worst service by not observing its limits and conditions.”

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Run Away ( Run Wild ) "for profit" - anathema to health.

GREED THE #1 CAUSE OF DISEASE/DEATH/DESTRUCTION IN THE WORLD.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago
[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago
[-] 0 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Yank their power cord and they no longer have power.

"Does ALEC Really Support Freedom of Assembly? " - Its not up to them to decide that. Its up to the people to simply take it.

[+] -6 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Have you quit buying and using Koch brother products in your house flipping "business" yet?

Do you have any plans to make a supportive on topic comment any time soon?

Oh yes, I forgot, you constantly minimize ALEC's activities.

And you don't give a fuck about what's happening in the States.

Plus you support the NRA and it's ties to ALEC's castle doctrine.

OWS?

Not so much.

http://interoccupy.net/occupythenra/

They even quote stuff from the daily Kos.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

haha. Here is my post on ALEC:

http://occupywallst.org/forum/alec-board-members/

Let me know what you think.

[+] -4 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

I think you like the Koch's and ALEC too.

I think you constantly cherry pick and refuse to accept information, other than what has already been spoon fed to you.

I also think you do most your research at "conspiracy" sites like Alex Jones and Zerohedge.

On the other hand OWS, IS aware of the works of ALEC, and unlike you?

They don't care for them.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2012/03/11328/occupy-wall-street-outs-alec-corporations

[-] -2 points by ZenDog (13178) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

Mass protest! How cool is that?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

I like it.

"In what might be the biggest anti-ALEC rally yet, the ALEC legislators and lobbyists arriving at the Renaissance Hotel on May 2 were greeted by a wave of protesters that outnumbered the conference attendees."

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12096/alec-assembles-most-wanted-list-and-oklahomans-say-alec-not-ok

[-] -3 points by ZenDog (13178) from South Burlington, VT 1 year ago

but shooz is right - no mention on the national news.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (34986) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 year ago

Not a surprise.

We gotta spread the word.

[+] -4 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Pretty cool, but it got "right" around zero national press.

Anyone who thinks ALEC has scaled back in any way shape or form, is deluded.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Here's some photos of ALEC's most wanted journos.

http://www.prwatch.org/files/ALEC%27s_Most_Wanted.pdf

[+] -5 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

They "pre"-covered their tracks too.

no point in letting the "little" citizens know what they are up to, after all they only write legislation to aid the BIG citizens.

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/05/12090/alec-covering-tracks-advance-oklahoma-meeting

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 1 year ago

Thanks Shooz. I'll be passing that link around as well as the first.

[-] -3 points by shooz (17714) 1 year ago

Fighting ALEC has been on the OWS agenda, almost since day one.

There's a bit too much Alec Baldwin here for my taste, but the rest of the photos are telling.

Don't forget ALEC's close ties to the Koch's.

https://www.google.com/search?q=occupy+alec&client=firefox-beta&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=_l2KUY_lLMeayQHE5oDYAQ&ved=0CDYQsAQ4Cg&biw=1288&bih=735