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Forum Post: ALEC vs the EPA

Posted 4 years ago on May 3, 2014, 4:42 p.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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From the list.....


“We support the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency.”

Here comes ALEC's latest tactic to make that dream come true.

Sue 'em, till they have no money left to do anything else.

The American Legislative Exchange Council’s (ALEC) mission to prevent the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency from regulating greenhouse gas emissions has expanded into an “unusual” coordinated campaign involving state attorneys general, according to documents obtained by The Guardian and released Friday.

ALEC, an influential right-wing lobbying group funded in part by petrochemical billionaires Charles and David Koch, has been working to undermine anti-pollution and pro-clean energy policies for years. But in 2014, the group adopted a new tactic — seeking out friendly state attorneys and encouraging them to sue the EPA.


Ayn, wouldn't have it any other way.



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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Now,now. Speaking on the realities of ALEC, discombobulates folks around here.

Too controversial, I guess.

perhaps a thread on puppies would be more acceptable?

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

Yes a coupla very anti Dem/liberal partisans have already engaged me.

They seem like simpletons.


[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

You could start a non-controversial thread on those puppies now.

Just be sure to mention how innocent ALEC is.

[-] -1 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

Ha! Keepin ALEC info @ the top even better.

& look at this:


repubs against ALEC!!!





[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

Agreed. And why I will try to keep the heat on.

Fukin ALEC mthrfrackers

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Wait 'till you get COPD.

You won't like it.


There's the future we've been given by the kinds of shackles that have already been put on the EPA.

Global warming=A clear and present danger.


[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago


I wonder if those guys will need those too?

They're not cheap. Will Freedom Industries pay for them?


[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago


I hear Afghanistan has the market cornered.


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago


As did cocaine after Iran/contra.


[-] 3 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

The reality is much larger.


Perhaps if society itself, didn't hurt so much, none of this would be an issue?


[-] 2 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

Stay informed on ALEC assault on our rights


"Agitate, agitate, agitate!!!" Don't give 'em an inch


[-] 0 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

Not fuk'd enough I agree.

Let the continued fuking commence.



[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Co-opting your State's Attorney General.

A very real story.

"The Guardian has learned that the American Legislative Exchange Council (Alec), a free market group of state legislators funded in part by coal and oil companies such as Peabody Energy and Koch Industries, launched a much broader style of campaigning in 2014 to block the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from cutting greenhouse gas emissions from power plants.

Documents obtained by the Guardian offer a rare glimpse into the inner workings of Alec as the organisation tried to drum up opposition from coal, oil and electricity industry groups and state officials.

The documents showed Alec adopting a new tactic of encouraging state attorney generals to bring lawsuits against the new EPA regulations – and so sink the emissions controls before they come into effect. Alec also encouraged legislators to lobby attorney generals and governors in other states on the EPA rules, the documents showed. […]

“Alec has become quite well known and notorious for promoting model legislation. This is different,” said Nick Surgey, director of research for CMD which investigates corporate influence on public policy. “Alec is engaging much more broadly in the campaign against the EPA regulations, and they are doing so by asking their members to advocate for the coal industry with attorney generals. That is very unusual for them.”"


[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Meanwhile, another one of ALEC's promotional favorites, fracking, just got another black eye.


Yet another study, saying fracking causes earthquakes.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33490) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

The fucking American oil institute should be labeled as a straight out liar for fossil fuel as they back the approval of the KXL: and Fracking as well - saying it is ALL GOOD and CLEAN and as safe and American as apple pie ( the fuckers ) - assholes are putting out commercials in Minnesota right now touting the wonderful benefits and "thousands" of jobs to be provided by KXL ( the blatant fucking liars ).

[-] 2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Here's some info on the reality of some of those "jobs".


Somehow, it's never like the brochure.

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago
[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Heavens to murgatroid, now why would the fossil fuel corporations want to influence anything at all?

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago

heres a great site ou prob know but worth posting


glad you responded, gets this post up high.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

Oh, and NEVER mention ALEC's agnda for the year.


Successful right wing activism is unmentionable.

Did you find anything on Benghazi yet?

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 4 years ago



The peoples opposition are corp controlled mindless pets who react to one word Pavlovian commands.

Simpletons I tell you. hugely entertianing

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 4 years ago

ALEC: putting business interests everywhere you don't want them to be.

Destroying Democracy, one state at a time.




[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 3 years ago


The truth about ALEC detracts from bullshit.

[-] 1 points by 99nproud (2697) 3 years ago

We're on the right track in keepin pressure on ALEC & their acolytes.




[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33490) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

'In the Land of Hell' = so appropriate.

Coming soon - the man made badlands of ND - on steroids ( plenty of unleashed/dumped poisons to add to everyone's enjoyment ).

Mmm mmm good - mmm mmm good - oil and natural gas fracking is mmm mmm good. F'n assholes!

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33490) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

BTW - it was so appropriate that a cancer commercial aired prior to the vid.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33490) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

That land is attempting to spread.

Yes it is - from sea to polluted sea - funny thing ( NOT ) though - whether the fracking machinery/works/operations get fully expanded or not - the damage already done "WILL" spread out through the aquifers.

[-] -1 points by DKAtoday (33490) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

Corp(se)oRat games/subterfuge ? Tell me it ain't so. Just kidding - EVERYONE should by this point in time/history know damned well better than to believe fossil fuel rah rah sis boom bah propaganda - from ANY source.