Forum Post: After Demanding Patriot Missiles as Protection from Iran, Israel Sells Secret US Technology to China
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 23, 2011, 11:45 p.m. EST by fucorporatemedia
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Finnish authorities have confirmed the seizure of 69 Patriot missiles manufactured by Raytheon Corporation today. During a routine search of the MS Thor Liberty, a ship flagged by the Isle of Man, at the Finnish port of Kotka, authorities found 69 Patriot missiles capable of a type capable of intercepting ICBMs, the most modern available and America’s most sensitive military technology.
These units, the most advanced Patriot system had only been supplied to nation, Israel. The 69 Patiot ICBM interceptors are believed to be a highly secret consignment demanded by Israel as protection from any retaliatory strike by Iran were war to break out in the region, Instead of deploying them, the missiles were apparently sold to China labeled as “fireworks” accoring to Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen.
Though the missiles themselves were worth only $4 billion, the technology transfer itself would be worth over $125 billion, and represent a signficant loss of defense capability for the United States. Sources termed it, “An absolute disaster, even if they only received the radar systems alone, much less the missiles. That this would go unreported though the story was broken in Europe 48 hours ago is astounding. Nobody in Washington has this although even the BBC report contains more than enough information to bring Washington to a halt.
This guy is just another of the Jew Haters out there................ and I know exactly what to do with those kind of people who have crossed my Jewish Rear in the past.
It might indicate that- the country's of Isrial, the usa and China and under the control of the same foreign power. The people of the us must realize by now that, there government doesn't represent the people that voted them into office. the us government represents? Follow the money trail- it leads to corporations then? where are the corporations getting there marching orders- no smoking gun.
This poster from http://fucorporatemedia.com is referencing the his own "PC version" of his site at GetSmartNews.com which is not a credible site for news.
A credible telling of the details behind the Patriot missiles found in Finland is available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/finnish-police-detain-ukrainian-captain-officer-in-missile-and-explosive-shipment/2011/12/22/gIQAMWPOBP_story.html . In this report, the Germans accept responsibility for the Patriot missiles that were being shipped to South Korea.
This post is simply not credible at best and anti-semitic at worst.
Germany officials have offered to take responsibility for the shipment to China though there is no record of Germany ever having received the missiles in the first place. There had been a shipment of PAC 2 missiles, 64, several months ago, which had been completed. No further shipment had been scheduled. Germany is responding to a request from Netanyahu to Merkel to save Israel from a potential spy scandal.
Similarly, a South Korean paper has published a story about the missiles but at no time has the South Korean embassy in Helsinki, made a statement or made contact with authorities as would be expected. This one gets more interesting every day.
Germany has a long history of working with Israel, call it “war guilt” or profiteering. The centrifuges used to develop nuclear weapons that were distributed by Israel, first to South Africa then by Israeli Johann Meyer to Libya were of Germany origin. Saddam Hussein received his biological and chemical warfare equipment from Germany, but through Bush family sources, not Israel.
We are told the missiles heading to China were to be “cloned” for sale along with radar and launch units, already there. They would be sold worldwide under Israeli branding in competition with the US. Israel is free to sell to clients the US would be likely to refuse.
The JA 20 Stealth fighter, built from plans stolen by Bush era White House Israeli “dual-citizens” is only one of dozens of defense projects stolen by Israeli spies and sent to China. China has every current nuclear weapons design and plans to upgrade its submarine fleet and will be building aircraft carriers eventually. All will be done with American technology.
Clearly a propagandist campaign. You have no evidence to back up your assertions here or on your own website. You're simply promoting your own agenda.
Finland found the weapons marked 'fireworks' from Israel going to China.
If it were a legitimate shipment, why was it confiscated?
All the newspapers said the same thing, until the damage control propaganda that you posted.
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The article you cite was posted as damage control...obviously...EVERYONE in the comments sees it for the load of crap it is. "In this report" and in that report only. Nice try.
So they were labeled 'fireworks' by Israel, were shipping to China...but no the washingtonpost tries to cover this up and you expect us to believe it?
Sorry to tell you, but most people believe foreign newspapers more than the liars at the Washington post and this is exactly the reason we need to Occupy the Corporate media in this country...
Occupy the TV stations- Surround the stations-Don't let them come or go until they tell the truth http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-the-tv-stations-surround-the-stations-dont-/
I don't care what everyone says. Unfortunately, people are not very good at fact checking the sources people point to, and they tend to agree with any post that aligns with their own fears and suspicions rather than do the work required to vet a resource.
The mere fact that many have bought into the propaganda you have so cleverly disguised as news does not make it truth anymore than the fact that 1 million men have bought penis enlarging pills makes them work.
I am really stunned that no one cares about this?
So apparently Israel is NOT afraid of Iran, and all of the lies the corporate media have been telling are just to support an unnecessary attack on Iran?
And they are selling our secret technology!! Why do we give them money and weapons??
Perhaps Ron Paul is correct in calling the push for war in Iran a big lie....
Perhaps Ron Paul is also correct in demanding we end this absurd military and monetary support of Israel.
Perhaps the corporate media is focusing on him being a racist, because their real agenda is being exposed as murderous lies.
In today's world its all about protecting Israel and fighting their wars...the zionist neocons make sure of this by getting coveted positions in the US government - i.e. Wolfowitz is one example of this - one of the prime architects of the Iraq War....
Apparently Israel isn't actually in need of protection. They are the ones with nukes, and they are selling weapons to China which they insisted they needed for protection.
This is so appalling I cannot believe that people aren't angry about this.
Why do we give our technology to Israel so they can make money selling our secrets?
WE are bankrupt, we give them money and weapons, we spend our money developing technology so they can sell it!!!
This is an outrage!
There is way too much learned helplessness in this country. WE can and should demand accountability for this now! We have to demand they stop all support of Israel.
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First I've heard of this one. I know there was an issue regarding W-88 technology under Clinton, that and Loral [sp] satellite technology.
One of the more interesting, and telling, portions of that story was that after China received the technology - presumably from a Los Alamos employee named Wen Ho Lee - they turned around and proved they had the technology.
One of their agents showed up at the U.S. embassy in Japan with the documentation.
The W-88 is a war head design that allows ten war heads on a single cruise missile.
So - we gave them that technology. Why? It's a part of our policy of M.A.D.ness - the message being 'we aren't a nuclear threat to the Chinese people and here, this is proof. You can have the same capability and that will keep us both honest . . .'
That's my theory anyway. And it did turn into a huge embarrassment for Clinton - which made the whole thing dual use.
This seems a bit different - and owsleader2011 pointed out the first thing to consider here.
Using a missile to hit a missile is like using a bullet to hit a bullet in space. The odds of success are astronomical.
I think the next thing to ask is - How did the Finnish authorities get tipped?
My bet - it was u.s.
We all know how intractable the weapons procurement system can be. Presuming the system still does not work, why are we still building it? let alone selling it to our allies as a principle means of defense?
I would think that might tend to piss them off, but I dunno.
In any case, I would hesitate to blame Israel over this whole thing. I'm sure there is cooperation taking place between some portion of the U.S. and Israel in this.
If I were the go between re: Raytheon and the Pentagon, I think I would be nervous. Even if this piece of it doesn't hit the news, no doubt, it's being looked into.
This seems a bit different - and owsleader2011 pointed out the first thing to consider here.
Using a missile to hit a missile is like using a bullet to hit a bullet in space. The odds of success are astronomical.
Thanks I'm a physicist and have spent many years in these fields of profit. The fact is the Patriot was always a 'feel good' bullshit.
Secondly the Russians really do have the best minds in science in the world, and that's why they were asked to solve the problem, anyone of you fuckheads note that now ONLY russia can send men to space that the US fuckhead space program is fucking dead.
If anybody could make the fucking patriot work, it would be the russians, but even they couldn't make a silk-purse from a sow's ear.
The problem is Mossad ( Likud/Israel CIA .. controllers of US congress ) were promised that the Patriot would protect them from Saddam in Gulf-War-I, and it didn't, so that's why everyone wanted the Russians to help.
It's funny the only people here that give a fuck are the American's but they're the stupidest people at the table.
The US public can't accept the truth, that 911 was a dozen kids with box-cutters and flight-simulators, or that the Patriot was a fucking CON-JOB 'star-war bullshit' carried over from republicans by ronny-raygun (old prez of US dead empire ) days.
Is that really the point?
Why are we giving Israel weapons and money so they can sell it to China....then ask for more money?
Just after Israel Sells Secret US Technology Meant for Defense from Iran to China, they ask for extra $100 million for Iran Defense and Congress approves an additional $235 million http://getsmartnews.com/news/321663
interesting - I think we are on the same page -
but you don't talk like a physicist.
The book 'Surely you must be joking Mr. Feynman' along with his prescient 1959 speech 'There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom' at http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/feynman.html should wet your appetite for more of the great Feynman!
There's Plenty of Room at the Bottom
An Invitation to Enter a New Field of Physics by Richard P. Feynman
This transcript of the classic talk that Richard Feynman gave on December 29th 1959 at the annual meeting of the American Physical Society at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) was first published in Caltech Engineering and Science, Volume 23:5, February 1960, pp 22-36. It has been made available on the web at http://www.zyvex.com/nanotech/feynman.html with their kind permission. The scanned original is available.
The Wikipedia entry on Feynman's talk.
Information on the Feynman Prizes
Search YouTube for Richard Feynman
For an account of the talk and how people reacted to it, see chapter 4 of Nano! by Ed Regis, Little/Brown 1995. An excellent technical introduction to nanotechnology is Nanosystems: molecular machinery, manufacturing, and computation by K. Eric Drexler, Wiley 1992.
Do you ever read Richard Feynman?
Jeebus fucking christ, get all his books and learn how real physicists talk and think. Even Einstein was hilarious if you bother to read any of his personal material.
People interested in physics typically like to reduce things to the smallest possible component and then work up, ... that's why invented atoms ( ghosts ) to represent materials. If your business is working with atom's then you work at the level of atomic physics or even smaller at particle physics.
Physics of course never works for understanding people, but it works real well for understanding 'systems', the USA system is a collapsed former prison colony from the 1700's, the prison colony failed and slaves were brought in, the slaves were 'freed' but not allowed to integrate, then everyone was classified as 'slave' as now. From day on in the USA it was always about OWNER/SLAVE, or PLANTATION-OWNER/CONVICT.
Today its CORPORATE-OWNER/WORKING-POOR(slave),
I think there's a group called 'union of concerned scientists', but in general there are many groups of scientists that care about humanity.
With regards to potty-talk like shit,fuck,kunt,moron, ... its all meant for humor, nobody ever died from humor except thramasayass.
I have read the Dancing Wu Li Masters, but that's about it in terms of physics.
I think the perception of the U.S. as nothing more than a prison colony and that it remains so is myopic at best - and cannot account for the fact that we are the most powerful nation on the planet.
The perception and the reality just don't quite jib I don't think.
Maybe the fact that you don't know you live in a prison is because you don't travel abroad for real, that you don't live.
Go live in an African village for a year, or a chinese village, or live in Laos, learn a language, speak fluently with the natives, ..
Then you will know the essential truth, that ALL USA citizens are incarcerated.
In physics we call this dimensionality, bugs that live in a one dimensional world cannot fathom the 2-dim, anymore than a 2-dim can fathom a 3-dim, or anymore than the average 3-dim human fathom an N-Dimensional reality.
A good feynman book to read would be "What the fuck do I care what other people think?" :)
If you are saying that certain social norms create their own forms of constraint then I would agree.
At the same time, in many ways, here in the U.S. we do have more opportunities than in any of the places you just mentioned.
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The patriot missiles NEVER FUCKING WORKED as advertised, the reason for transferring the technology to Russia is because they have the best Jewish Scientists on Earth in Russia. But even the Russians couldn't make the 'Patriot' work, cuz it was 99% marketing, the simple fact is that Raytheon sold the Mossad a bunch of fucking junk, and they needed Russia to prove the point.
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Israel and the zionists - all that's evil, ugly, fake, deceitful and wrong in today's world....