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Forum Post: ACA haters don’t know nothin’ ’bout birthin’ no babies

Posted 10 months ago on Oct. 31, 2013, 3:29 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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It was probably inevitable that, in an effort to sink the Good Ship Affordable Health Care, the wonderful folks who brought you the Let The Free Market & Jesus Take Care of Your Butt Cancer health care system that we labored under until recently would start to break feet-stamping down into easy-to-swallow fun-sized chunklets of victimology. First they told us that Affordable Care Act was the equivalent of pooping all over the graves of The Founding Fathers [takes out pocket-sized copy of the Constitution and waves it in the air like he don't know what's in there] so they tried to burn the country down in order to save it. Then OMG! the website didn’t work cool beans right out of the chute so they wanted to treat it like the printer in Office Space. Jumping on board, teevee “news” people wheeled out a herd of cow-eyed common-sense Velcro-Shoe Americans to explain that ignorance is bliss and trying is hard, so why bother because we’re all gonna die anyway. Then came: The Experts and that should have been the Death Knell for Death Panels but, “no” it’s not because no assault on our freedoms can be complete without attributing it to the dark and sinister desires of some ‘special interest group’. Who can it be this time? The Gheys? The Blahs? People who don’t want their kids shot?

Nope … cherchez la femme.

There are very few people that can pull this off well. Did I mention that I love this guy. I do.

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[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

the aca is a piece of shit. a hand out to the private insurance companies mandating millions pay them . forcing people to buy insurance any insurance whether to drive or for healthcare is fascism. the merger of state and corporate powers. wake up this is a piece of shit. all the real true liberals know it. worship obamagod some more keep telling yourselves that he is a liberal when he is a center right.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Hey there, lil' multiple ID cockroach, your backers are getting ready to get popped. You might want to think about that.

[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

my backers? i am sponsored by no one. you don't really think the aca is designed to help americans more than it is designed to enrich insurance companies do you? i support medicare for all. like most socially conscious people.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

No, actually you don't support that. Simply saying so does not make it true. You fail to bring more to the table than right wing talking points. FAIL.

Got it, cockroach?

[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

you think you know me but you don't. i support a fdr style second bill of rights.

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.---fdr

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[-] 0 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

i think they support these things.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Who's they and why do you think that?

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

And you posted positive commentary on those things in what threads, under what username???

If you consider the ACA a piece of shit, what do you call the system it's replacing??

[-] 2 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

single payer health care, medicare for all.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

So you're just going to spin in circles??

How many puppets do you think you'll be using going forward?

You should be on the lookout for these guys.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/koch-backed-group-wages-trench-warfare-against-obamacare-medicaid-expansion

[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

i am not just spinning in circles expanding medicaid and medicare for all are not the same thing. if you want to delude yourself fine but its a corporate bill written by corporations fuck it's mitt romneys healthcare plan.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20458) 9 months ago

The ACA is a compromise. The true left, the libertarian socialist types, (a tiny minority in this country and so unrecognized and placed with "libertarians" (who are on the extreme right such as Rand Paul and Michele Bachman) by mistake due to a lack of understanding of semantics and definitions,) are just as unhappy with this plan as the conservative right but for different reasons. What the true left wants is single-payer universal care.

"Libertarian Socialism" and "Libertarianism" are wholly opposed to one another.

Here are the wikipedia definitions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism

In summary, libertarians are for free-wheeling market capitalism while libertarian socialists are strictly anti-capitalist.

From the wiki article: "Libertarian socialists are anti-capitalist, and can thus be distinguished from right-wing libertarians"

You couldn't have 2 groups more opposed to each other so the fact that they are merged together by many just shows you the lack of understanding and the lack of a true left in this country.

[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

well said.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Yes, I've heard this all before, but your rant contained many things beyond healthcare.........and you never did give your description of the current system.

Incredibly, most of what you bitch about could be helped along by strong support for unions, yet you didn't mention them.

You didn't mention the (R)epelican't/libe(R)topian drive to dismantle defined pension programs and unions in general either.

You didn't mention their drive to keep people from voting either, nor their vicious attacks on women's, and gay rights.

In fact, there's a lot you've glossed over.

Like what were your previous nameplates around here.

Plus like troll ( and I'm not calling you one....yet), you didn't comment on the info in the link I provided.

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[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Wait? What??

Which one are you???

You're just being silly and unproductive now.

Do you like art??

Canadian art is combing to the US........................:)

Seems Harper ( the Canadian libe(R)topian) doesn't care for her.

http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20131028/artist-blacklisted-canada-over-criticism-climate-policy-takes-show-us

Are you a libe(R)topian??

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[-] 0 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

im posting about it now.

[-] 0 points by crabthing (1) 9 months ago

touché!

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

You don't support shit.

[-] 1 points by greenanarchosyndicalist (85) 9 months ago

why so hostile?

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Why more than one ID?

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[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

So, would that be menwillpause ?

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

I bet there will be after a few of them go through that. I say it takes 10 but the right ten and an entire line of menwillpause pill will be available.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28051) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 months ago

Isn't that Viagra?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Isn't that the menwillnotpauseforfourhours pill?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (28051) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 months ago

Perhaps - I think they all carry that warning - that would be the gone to long pill - be sure to contact your Dr. pill. That I think would "cause" some men-tal-pause.

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[-] 0 points by rightwingprick (1) 9 months ago

the ACA is a fouled up version of the private insurance industry. As usual, the government is trying to do something that it was never intended to do. This needs to be defunded.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

No it isn't puppet.

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[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

Please take that and shove it up Leo's ass.

[-] -1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 9 months ago

Ewwww. No thank you.

He hasn't responded to what I asked him earlier. Sometimes it takes a little time to come to the proper interpretation of a particular story.

I don't like to jerk my knee.

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[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Forced into Wall St. Literally forced by a government mandate.

Everyone better buckle up because forced into Wall St via the SS tax with no way out is right around the corner now.

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[-] 0 points by nazihunter (215) 9 months ago

HC, you need something to back this up with. That it may come with a few pains I already accept. But, there were pains to the previous system. If you had a p-e condition, you filled out numerous forms to pay much higher premiums for insurance that didn't even cover the condition. That's nothing short of self-defeating to everyone BUT the insurer. What trade-off could make it worse than this?

[-] 0 points by HCHC4 (-28) 9 months ago

Things in DC are done on precedent. Many others, some of whom I dont think are very honest, agree on this.

This was a precedent of huge proportions. There is no telling where this is going to lead. Maybe this will be it. Maybe it wont. Personally I dont want to find out, I dont want this war mongering entity to be involved in anything until we clear house and get all new people in there. They are completely out of control.

If this was the trade off, after that near record breaking sweep of 08, and in the short time they had all the numbers they couldnt of just bulled the pre existing conditions clause through, then who really wrote this thing?

Its over a 1000 pages of corporate welfare. And now we are forced to pay for it. Literally fined if we dont. Did you see the penalty as it increases over the next 3 years? Its astronomically high by 2016.

My point is that is this is the trade for something as simple as a preexisting conditions clause- to set the precedent that the feds are now forcing us to purchase from multinational corporations- then we are so totally fucked that it was pointless anyways.

I am very happy for those who can now get insurance, although the plans offered, if you need lots of care, will still bankrupt almost anyone. The premiums are stupid high, and the deductibles are even higher. Who can afford a silver plan that costs $250 a month with a $5000 deductible? Thats damn near a grand a month. No one can afford that. Its a total bullshit scam.

If the 08 sweep led to this pile of bullshit, 5 years later mind you, then the people who got put in there are worlds greatest con men.

That wasnt what 08 was about. The president spent the entire campaign stating why a mandate was bullshit. He got sold out, we got sold out, and now theres no telling where this leads.

[-] 0 points by nazihunter (215) 9 months ago

Healthcare in this country sucks period. The cost is crippling. I had COBRA from my last job which was $536 mo. and $2500 deductible. But, the doctors aren't suffering any of this pain. They make up the majority of the 1%. So, they never come off as responsible as the insurers, but trust me, they are. I do recall the Insurance Commish telling Obama how it was gonna be, and the overall plan wound up being one of great compromise. I heard someone on the tube saying the penalties and some of the other stuff may need to go back to the table. I heard some bad things as well. As you say, time will tell..

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 months ago

So, you can't back that shit up. Again.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

FeAr PaNic...................Alex Jones misses you.

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[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Do you stand for anything at all? I mean, anything? How can you possibly be against wall st and tell your community they are now forced to buy from them?

PS- the only reason the right is pretending to be against this is because thats what they are told to do. If Romney did this, which he already did, they would be all over it and you would be saying what Im saying.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

PS: Move to Florida. You can have your shit and eat it too. You have brought nothing to the table but right wing talking points.

[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Your views are so far to the right its not even funny. Consolidate power much? Ya, we havnt seen that with every tyrannical dictator in the past.

But let me guess, this time will be different. I'm sure thats why they created this massive police state, because "theeeeeyyyy loooooove uuuuuuus".. please. You have no clue what you stand for.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

Would you please stop making things up?

It would be the correct thing to do.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

That's the only thing left. It doesn't have anything left. Right wing libertopian bullshit. If it walks around saying consolidation and decentralization enough then surely one will see it is all about freedom.

A libertopian pr freedom fry.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

It never mentions the MASSIVE police State that Texas has become.

The State of REAL libe(R)topia. What they want for the rest of us.

Fuckers.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

It never manages to let the truth get in the way.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 10 months ago

He never does the research to find the truth in the first place.

It's so much easier to look for links at prisonplanet.

A site based in Texas, I might add.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

It's all a bunch of bullshit.

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[-] -1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

At least you admit that consolidation is your weapon of choice.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Actually, you dim witted bitch................regulation.

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[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Then why do you vote for people who take corporate money? You think they are going to bite the hand that feeds them? You know damn well you are siding with the corrupt and yet you do it anyways.

No, you only want regulation at the local level, in order to further consolodate EVERYTHING under one, easy to contain umbrella.

Thats what you are endorsing, if you dont get it then Im sorry.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Why do you lie? For money? Tell me.........do you really drink the koolaid that you are paid to post, right wing theathuglican multiple ID cockroach?

Of course you do.

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[-] -1 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Right, thats why one of us is clueless and the other can actually speak on it.

How about you? How many nights did you make it?

NONE. So shut up already with that big ass flapper.

Here I am, arguing with some troll about occupy, some troll that has never ONCE posted anything relevant to themselves and an action.

I guess I am the guilible one. You win troll, I'm out.

Go find a halloween party and mix it up a bit, it would do you some good.

[-] -3 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

No. You can't speak on it. You fail every fucking time you do. So try again, cockroach.

[-] -2 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Either the truth hurts or you are too ignorant to think. Your "left" views on things are proposed and pushed by corporations, like your love of this forcing the people into wall st crap. Wake the fuck up already, you are being played. And no, this isnt a statement to jump to the right, I realize thats also how you are programmed to think.

The message is this.... THINK.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Your message was paid to post. Let's be clear: You are actually a right wing fascist fuck pr multiple ID cockroach. Your statement was PAID for. You are a two dollar whore. Fuck off. It must suck to wake up every day and look in the mirror and realize that for all your spin.................you fuckers are finally going down.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (28051) from Coon Rapids, MN 10 months ago

Yep - their insanity has gone full blown - as one can see by the numerous razor cuts over the past decade+ and now their trying to cut their own jugular-vein with the treasonous roadblock gov shutdowns.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Yes. This right here: treasonous roadblock gov shutdowns.

is what they are currently trying to shift away from. So, his pompous ass is doing what he has been paid to do. The fact that he has demonstrated that he hates anything that aids humanity has been numerous times.

[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Actually you are wrong, but you simply cant comprehend anything outside your usual paradigm. Or its the fact that all you have is talk, we cant talk about anything activist related-or even occupy related- because then you are just staring off into space.

Its not your fault, its how they trained us all to think. Its occupy's job to remove the blinders. Stop holding on so hard.

[-] -2 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Oh, shit...you have nothing to do with Occupy. You never have. So, why do you spend so much time lying? Because you are a paid to post piece of shit teathuglican multiple ID cockroach.

Teanuts roasting on an open fire.....

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Pffttt............try again, right wing teathuglican pr multiple id cockroach.

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[+] -4 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Thats funny, I know quite a few feminists who think that forcing the people to purchase products from corporations is about as fucked up as it gets from an OCCUPY WALL ST viewpoint.

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[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

No, you don't. That's what is funny. You're a two dollar right wing whore.

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[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

Get out more often, they arent hard to find. Or just keep denying what is going on.

You are endorsing the government forcing you to purchase from corporations and dont even realize it. Thats how bad its gotten. The people are willing to do that. For what? For a preexisting conditions clauese to be removed?

Its gotten that bad that we are willing to set that precedent to get something that should be a right?

Pandering isnt going to push the conversation forward.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Why do you lie?

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[-] -3 points by HCHC4 (-28) 10 months ago

The only one thats lying when you pretend to be against corporations and then tell everyone to eat shit and buy it.

[-] -1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 10 months ago

Why do you lie, cockroach?

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