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Forum Post: Abraham Lincoln: Honorable Statesman and Hero OR Pure Evil?

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 2, 2011, 1:16 a.m. EST by FrogWithWings (1367)
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Just curious as it's come to my attention that the real truth of the civil war, and the attempts to finance it after the fact, haven't been taught in public or state schools since the late 50's.

Did Honest Abe actually abolish slavery or did he actually enslave all, even initially setting the stage to today's harsh realities?

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[-] 1 points by FrogWithWings (1367) 12 years ago

http://www.libertyforlife.com/eye-openers/lincoln-enslaved-world.html

"Abraham Lincoln Enacted State Slave Labor Camps & Involuntary Servitude and Destroyed the USA."

The United States has never even paid for the cost of the civil war which has cost more money and lives, than all following wars, cumulative, to date. The actual real money cost has only now been eclipsed by this nation's undeclared, yet never ending, war in the middle east.

Lincoln sold the whole world out when it came time to settle up the debt, which was roughly 330 million per citizen, of actual real 1850 money.

For any one man to ever wield such power and bloodthirst, well, it's a sad shame he wasn't shot much sooner.

If you think he "freed that slaves", consider what happened afterwards, not only to blacks, but, also to Irish, Chinese and other immigrants. Far worse than slavery ever was.

One also doesn't have to be extremely open minded to realize that his inept dealings with the "evil bankers", in attempts to fund his meglomania power brokering, certainly set the stage for where we are all today....

enslaved by big banks.

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[-] 1 points by CrossingtheDivided (357) from Santa Ysabel, CA 12 years ago

Gore Vidal, about his dramatization of Lincoln:

"It is my radical view that Americans are now sufficiently mature to be shown a Lincoln as close to the original as it is possible for us so much later in time to render. Since the race war goes on as fiercely as ever in this country, I think candor about blacks and whites and racism is necessary. It was part of Lincoln’s greatness that, unlike those absolute abolitionists, the Radical Republicans, he foresaw the long ugly confrontation, and tried to spare future generations by geographically separating the races. The fact that his plan was not only impractical but inadvertently cruel is beside the point. He wanted to do something; and he never let go the subject . . .

". . . .Thus Lincoln warns us against Lincoln:

[Vidal-adapted speech Lincoln made in 1838 at the Young Men’s Lyceum in Springfield:] - "Towering genius disdains a beaten path. It seeks regions unexplored…. It denies that it is glory enough to serve under any chief. It scorns to tread in the path of any predecessor however illustrious. It thirsts and burns for distinction; and, if possible, it will have it, whether at the expense of emancipating slaves or enslaving free men."

"Nothing that Shakespeare ever invented was to equal Lincoln’s invention of himself and, in the process, us. What the Trojan War was to the Greeks, the Civil War is to us. What the wily Ulysses was to the Greeks, the wily Lincoln is to us. I am neither Homer nor Virgil. But it is of those arms that I have tried to sing, and of that man—not plaster saint but towering genius, our nation’s haunted and haunting re-creator."

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[-] 1 points by CrossingtheDivided (357) from Santa Ysabel, CA 12 years ago

“The worst thing to happen to Lincoln - aside from the unfortunate incident at Ford's theatre - was to fall into the hands of Carl Sandburg.” ― Gore Vidal

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