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Forum Post: About time milleniials unite and tell the ol buggers who've messed up the planet, especially the NRA $ and say "your Fired"

Posted 6 years ago on Feb. 20, 2018, 11:30 p.m. EST by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ
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Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, together with Everytown for Gun Safety, launched a campaign on Friday which it says will “empower voters to find out where candidates stand on gun safety”.

The Resistance Now: Sign up for weekly news updates about the movement Read more “Throw them out” will target members of Congress who are “beholden to the gun lobby”, Moms Demand Action said. They’ve set up five steps people can follow to pressure lawmakers, including how to get politicians on the record as committing to stricter gun control and a tool to encourage friends to vote.

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[-] 2 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

Don't sho p these now ....One big way that the NRA retains its members is through discounts on everything from car insurance to hotel rooms. Dozens of American companies have partnered with the NRA to offer special perks to members. On the NRA membership benefits page, it stresses the "access to hundreds of dollars in savings" as a reason to join the organization. http://www.businessinsider.com/which-companies-still-support-the-nra-2018-2

An activist group, which simply calls itself "Boycott NRA Partners," has created a Google Doc that lists retailers that haven't cut ties with the NRA. Below are the ones that Business Insider could verify:

American Cellars Wine Club (Vinesse Wines) Avis until March 26 Budget until March 26 eHealth Emergency Assistance Plus (Worldwide Rescue & Security) Global Rescue Hotel Planner Life Line Screening

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

in the NRA camp, including several household names like Hertz, Avis, Budget, TrueCar, Symantec, Allied Van Lines, FedEx and Lifelock

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

FedEx continues to stay.

Which shipping companies compete with FedEx? FedIn? FedOut? FedDown? FedUp? FedRite? FedWrong? FedExit? Nova. Noro!

The founder and CEO has allegedly committed a number of fatal hit-and-run incidents, quite a colorful ( definitely not zebra-striped ) character ( the created entities were made in the same image, not surprisingly in drugs and taxes ) above the laws apparently. Guess where he's from? Tacos!

We have a yuuge orange U Thant problem coming, now everywhere with those white trucks and vans. Wasn't that orange delivered on a weekday morning by a white van in Pounding Laundry? Mushrooms are magical.

Here's a recent roster. I've removed recent links to YouTube videos in remembrance of the Parkland South Slaughter. "valar morghulis" Meddling foreigners deserved a specially created Congressional medal for distinguished services in creating the confidence to usher in the Nuclear Age and the Allied's nuclear superiority in WWII and afterwards. Staatssicherheit, komm zurück! DPRK and Iran enriched uranium because confining plutonium for a time required precise geometry ( computerized numerically controlled { CNC } cutting tool such as what Toshiba had sold ( defying our ITAR regulations ) is needed because trial-and-error won't keep the work shrouded in secrecy ) but much smaller nuclear weapons can be made with the highly radioactive and extremely toxic plutonium.

The corrosion of the materials ( surrounding the plutonium ) due to plutonium's ( uranium isotopes have much longer half-lives so its radiation is less intense than plutonium's ) intense radiation disrupting the materials' chemical bonds making them brittle will be a problem over the longer term ( it's the same reason why Chernobyl nuclear disaster's "ashpile" needs a new sarcophagus to cover it to avoid precipitations, every few decades until the "dying ember 'cools' down" to an acceptable radiation level, probably in centuries; Japan is in a similar predicament with its tsunami-induced nuclear catastrophe but it will likely apply the classic corporate solution of "dilution is the solution to pollution" by delegating the radioactive effluent to the greatest sink on Earth ). Yes, owning nuclear weapons that work as needed requires long-term maintenance of the stockpile. This is why the Russian and Chinese nuclear stockpiles are questionable in effectiveness ( the Chinese ones may have stayed more effective if they had opted for enriched uranium instead of plutonium ). The U.S. has been modernizing its nuclear stockpile. Russia has just started doing that, too. What about China which probably made the nuclear weapons in the 1960s and 1970s? No, China has made and tested plutonium bombs in the 1990s, probably after cyberstealing/polipurchasing U.S. nuclear weapon design so the bombs are not really as old as the U.S. and Soviet/Russian ones. Isn't it time for China to join the modernization spending for something that one hopes and does everything to ensure that it will be useless? Regarding spending on useless things, I put all of my bets on the U.S. because its economy is several times larger than either Russia or China. Russia's economy is much smaller than the former Soviet Union's after adjusting for inflation. China's is much bigger and exceeds the U.S. economy ( in PPP { Purchasing-Power-Parity } basis -- that is akin to the fact that most U.S. denizens would feel and live like wealthy people if they were to move to live in China because things and labor are cheaper in China after exchanging their U.S. dollars into renminbis to spend ) but there will be a domestic populous uprising after a war with the U.S. because the U.S. will export great unemployment to China causing widespread chaos.

China might have wisely opted for enriched uranium bombs because they did not require as much high technology due to the geometry. At that time, supercomputer and CNC lathing technology was not easily available in China. How to avoid broken pieces while working on plutonium was also a problem. China's nuclear arsenal is more defensive in nature so bulkiness is not as great an issue therefore the primary concern in the coming Korean War is whether China will move its U/Pu ( but primarily U because the lighter Pu ones tend to be mounted on ballistic missiles not requiring ground transport ) bombs towards DPRK. Intercepting the movement of the bombs can nullify their effectiveness in the war. Also the fallout will likely affect the nearby Beijing and Tianjin population centers. Since China may try to pre-position their bombs near DPRK, watch very carefully the movement of heavy transporters close to the border in the next few months starting right now and position weapons to take them out. Due to their concentration in the Northeast to protect Beijing and DPRK, it may well be an ideal time to invade its Southwest ( nuclear-armed India is strategically located and ambitious enough to grab Chinese land there even if we ourselves have no interest whatsoever ) using our numerous nuclear weapons as needed on the population centers such as Chongqin and Guangzhou. Peruse China's past bomb testing data to determine whether China had advanced to plutonium bombs or not. The yield and fallout isotopic profiles should provide clues. Also a fizzled out nuclear bomb test usually marks a failed attempt to detonate a plutonium bomb with a good enough geometry, as has been demonstrated by DPRK. The intention of plutonium bombs is rather offense-oriented so it's very clear that DPRK was looking for a fight with the U.S. by working to miniaturize nuclear bombs ( for intercontinental deliveries ). Hence, a preemptive strike is indicated to minimize total carnage. The photograph showing Kim Jun-un inspecting a highly SYMMETRICAL spherical metal object indicated the obvious attempt at a plutonium bomb. Another photograph showed two spherical objects linked together. It looked like a pumped device. Yes, the past intention of DPRK is very clear and it demonstrated its technical capabilities so the question is whether DPRK has truly changed its intention. If not, the earlier a preemptive strike is undertaken, the better off everyone else aside from Kim Jun-un will be. The way he treats his people means that we CANNOT use them as his testicles to squeeze him as needed to establish mutual trust. Nuclear deterrence based upon holding his people as hostages will most likely fail. When DPRK gets into temporal range, a nuclear war is most likely inevitable so the attention now should be focused on minimizing the total carnage.

In the longer term, China will be the most detrimental to the U.S. because although in the shorter term, their nationalism taking their people as being important qualifies them as the hostages required for nuclear deterrence, China is breaking out with nuclear ballistic missile submarines. It definitely has plutonium and has miniaturized plutonium bombs in the 1990s ( with U.S. technological leakage by the Clitonites, eh? ) obviously intended for extraterritorial hegemonic endeavors. It's also on the verge of crowning a new emperor, amending its constitution to allow for a president for life. That's affirmatively authoritarian, probably prelude to a dictatorship. It's unsurprising because its ruling party's motto has always been the single-party dictatorship of the Proletariat.

China looks strong on the surface but is actually weak-kneed in going to war with its greatest customer because of its vulnerability to massive unemployment. The rural folks have already been bubbling steam for a while. It doesn't take much for them to boil over. They were the ones Mao had counted on to overthrow the government and they were successful. I do admire the capability of the Chinese people to overthrow their own governments, especially that imposed by the "Yellow Peril's" Mongols ( who are nowadays often considered as Chinese due to their having been culturally assimilated ) who had even defeated Russia in winter! Both Napoleon and Hitler failed to defeat the Russians in winter.

There's the Great Wall of China and supposedly the Great Wall of America soon. Where's the Great Wall of Russia? I did remember someone wanting to build the Great Wall of Texass, too. Through the Looking Glass, that Bush-it exposed the presidential hiding place on 9/11/2001. Scheiße! I smell burritos in Texass, that Bush-it is so Hispanic. "Press '1' for English. Press '2' for Spanish." As the big enchilada says, "Texass ist mein Farterland!"

If deterrence failed, the Sun should rise in the East and set in the West, as always. Japan shall lord it over China and Korea once again in its dream of empire. Japan owns much plutonium from having the spent fuel rods of its many nuclear reactors reprocessed so it can quickly become a nuclear weapon state with minor technical help from the U.S. Having committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in WWII, Japan has gained quite a fearsome reputation in Asia. Freeing a newly militarized Japan bent on acquiring its place of the Sun should send shivers down along the spines of the peoples in Greater East Asia who can still remember the Japanese depravities ( look up "lumber mill" Unit 731's occupational activities, "the Rape of Nanking," "the Bataan Death March," ... ) and atrocities.

We know how to control even incurable diseases. Reduce the r factor and the incurable ones will die off. What constitutes the r factor?.. Minimize contagion.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

In a general sense I agree but the deeper patriot is terrified of the conglomerated wealth and power standing like that giant eye from Lord of the Rings....because the way it is looking we may need to fight our own government via insurgency (scary times)...so ? Wouldn't guns be required to protect us from the likes of Trump and Wallstreet should they forge a dictatorship? Confusing times too. Another important point...what is causing these young men to kill? I would venture to say they have all experienced childhood trauma and some form if violence or sexual abuse. Killers are made, not born. We have a child rape problem in this country and we aren't even adressing this. While not everyone who has had trauma goes that direction ...a percentage do. We need to make it ok for the 1 in 6 men who have been harmed to talk about this. Unfortunately it is the norm...violence against children in America is common. 1 in 4 women but ...It is especially still stigmatized when it comes to boys being able to come forward. The machismo in America is out of hand. Teach people to stop bullying and have empathy. We must show our empathy for a child or adult who has experenced rape...we need to let them know their feelings are ok.

To the would be shooters I want you to know you aren't alone as you feel... your life is going to get better. There are many of us who care about you and who don't think you are dirty or strange. If someone touches a child it is never the fault of the child no matter what. Write...post your story anonymously if needed to help other men. Help thousands of others just like you going through the same thing. You are going to get through this ...all pain is temporary. I know you feel confused and hopeless just know your symptoms and feelings are normal trauma symptoms and ptsd. They too will pass. There is help out here for you...you are not a bad person and you don't need to do something awful to anyone else to prove it somehow or to express your anger...that isn't who you really are...shame is the lie someone else taught you to believe about yourself. Let the pain stop at you. You have that power to be the last person affected by such violence. Don't spread that pain...you survived ....you are a strong for that and you can choose to do something positive. Oneday you will find love and happiness and this awful time will just be a memory of a hard time. I know it doesn't feel like it...but you aren't crazy and you will be ok. It takes courage to face this and you already have that strength. So many others just like you have gone through the same thing. You really aren't alone or doomed. It is hard but they do get through it and so can you.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

One in 6 is only what has been reported. Some children repress the memory until adulthood then bam nervous breakdown ptsd, etc. We don't understand domestic abuse. We don't understand school shootings. BUT The answer is staring at us. We need to make it safe for men to discuss and also to spread knowledge of repressed memory onset In adulthood. If we are serious about protecting children and helping addicts recover stopping domestic abuse etc. and on and on then we need to get serious about what is at the roots of so much male violence and drug problems. Its amazing what we do...we stigmatize their symptoms we make victim a dirty word. We don't talk about this problem...the Catholic church protects pedophiles. I mean c'mon it is so obvious to me that all of these men shared the same problem. Rape should not be a normal male indoctrination. And no parent really wants to see itbecause then they have to see that they screwed up. They failed to protect their kid. It is easier to go on ignoring the obvious and gut feeling in favor of thinking of that possibility. Just like Adam Lanza's parents did. Did anyone stop to wonder with his mile long list of textbook obvious symptoms...if he had been raped? Bullying can include rape as well on the extreme end. No they had him pegged with every other possible thing under the sun...but no never that....it just isn't possible. I assure you all with 1 in 6 and what happened it isn't just possible it is extremely likely. And yes while ultimately what he did was his choice...a proper diagnosis and treatment may have saved many lives. Most victims do not become perpetrators. But depending on the severity and lack of treatment it can lead to it in a small percentage because we don't make help available nor do they feel safe to discuss it. The worst thing we could do is minority report and stigmatize rather we must educate the public and kids about this very real threat to their security and lives. How long does it take to destroy a human being? An afternoon? One sleepover? And parents and therapists need to be educated about symptoms. Oppositional defiance disorder...does not exist. It is a trauma symptom. If your kid or student has it...then they have trauma - believing in this phantom o.d.d. diagnosis is lying to yourself. As well as trauma symptoms can be confused for ADD. In fact i think most of these shooters were on ADD meds.

As well as it was thought he was looking up pedophilia online...just MAYBE ...COULD IT be that he was researching what had happened to himself? And while I'm not arguing against gun control by any means.. or defending his actions....how is it we keep managing to miss the obvious underlying issue? I feel it can't be seperated from the topic.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

{ Adam Lanza's } mile long list of textbook obvious symptoms

Given a large enough number of people each with the "mile long list," we are bound to find an "Adam Lanza" amongst them. Knowing his existence doesn't make his identification any easier. Thus is the tough job for the pre-cogs from the Minority Report movie.

I don't think that it's actually a purely male issue with violence although I definitely agree with males having been bred with the propensity for violence. Amongst our close relatives in the primates, there exists sexual dimorphism in which the males are vastly bigger, stronger, and more powerful than the females. The males fought for untold ages over food, water, territories, females, etc. in intense competitions. "Only the best take the test. Only the worst make out tonight." and survived to pass on their genes and epigenes. Our earliest epics such as the Odyssey and the Iliad, roil of rivalries, royalties, heroics, camaraderie, beauty, betrayal, bestiality, and endless love. Yes, the genes and epigenes code the latest models for power, survival, cunning, etc. to breed under violence. However, human beings in fact have much less sexual dimorphism than our primate relatives, possibly because we had been nurtured in a strong and durable Cooperative pair-bond ( i.e., long-term-reserved-farking ) family unit with a father ( lacking the baculum in his penis, unique amongst the primates, mostly one-shot deal and taking a much longer { tenderer? } time than other primates' but with reserved "parking," still capable of successful breeding by boning up in time Without a bone! ) and a mother for most of our history of existence as a species. Cooperation over many scales from familial pair bonding to supranational couplings made the human species great. Men and women have more similar capabilities than dissimilar ones. Of course, men are definitely Not the same as women but not to the same degree as a male gorilla differs from a female one. If we say that we have evolved away from the gorillas and the chimpanzees, we should definitely consider whether the trend towards gender equality had contributed to our rise away from the beasts within us. Do we really say that in the Begining, there were two Gods, male and female? And the male God was vastly more powerful, violent, and stronger than the Goddess? Isn't that dichotomy deemed to be blasphemous in the most dominant religions of the World?

how is it we keep managing to miss the obvious underlying issue?

1+2+3 > 5. Which number 1, 2, or 3 caused the sum 6 to exceed 5? When Adam Lanza pulled a gun trigger to kill a kindergartener, which caused the death of the child? Was it Adam Lanza, his gun, the bullet, etc.? There are multiple causes but I say the immediate cause was the tip of the speeding bullet. If all of his bullets lacked the lead tips, the kindergartener would have probably survived. Any event can have a long tree of causes leading up to it. Controlling the nodes may avoid the event if we understand the tree's structure well enough to prune it efficiently.

Oppression creates terrible consequences, some manifesting as rebounds against the authorities, killing the innocents ( in a repression -- e.g., in Syria ). Adam Lanza was pulled out of school by his mother. The school system could not respond satisfactorily to her. His family was very well off ( as evidenced by a few years of his mother's getting pre-mortal alimony payments of more than $250,000 a year from his father ) so his mother probably had a rich person's privileged mentality motivating her to home-school him. She cut him off from society with her drowning love for him, I believe. When she eventually pushed him to fledge ( perhaps the child-support payment stream for him coming from his father was terminated shortly before the massacre? was he then old enough to have just lost the child support for him from his father? ), he was overstressed and he blew up. I think that she bit off far more than she could handle even with her great income ( perhaps wealth, too? ). She thought that she had actually bonded with him over guns and bullets by introducing him to her childhood gun culture ( mostly for Whites originally needed to own and keep slaves under control ) inherited from her father. It was apparently her attempt at drawing him out from his shell of social isolation. I believe that teaching him to shoot guns was an expression of her love for him. Unfortunately, it got out of control and their gun culture magnified both the scale and gruesomeness of the slaughter. I feel terrible that she had to face her beloved son pointing the gun at her, firing. Can you feel her anguish, the horror, and the terror as a mother?

The transition from adolescent dependency to adult independence is fraught with dangers. It's often the most stressful time in young people's lives. Society can help with the transitions to head off terrible problems. Even financial wealth doesn't always solve the problems of mental and spiritual poverty. Using wealth, a youngster could well be given "a fish" but it still might not be good enough to feed the youngster day after day as an independent person.

Generally, I found that being brought up in moderate material poverty can help breed inventive childish creativity and independent survival and coping skills. Rather than just waiting for the "proper" tool to be given by the benevolent others ( such as the mothers who cannot be around forever ), one creates one's own tool out of whatever is available and what one desires and imagines. There's a zone of "constructive failures" a youngster must traverse successfully to achieve independence. As a child, I have been "dog-paddling" in multiple swimming styles year after year but never learning how to swim ( due to my not knowing how to float and breathe without using a buoy ) until my swimming class instructor stood beside me ready to catch me and convinced me that I could relax and lean back to float belly-up in the water. There's a moment of trust in the water's ability to keep me up floating ( and breathing like a surfacing dolphin/whale through my "blowhole" ) and letting go.

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

I think adding confusion to simplicity is the name of your game...don't we get enough of this from msm and government? Nihilism? Because yes I do feel it is possible to simplify and understand things...if the talking heads would shut up...the narcissists would stop convincing everyone the sky is brown...gaslighting subterfuge binging in 1000 other mindless factoids. There is truth in gut feeling and intuition as well as when something is plain obvious we can deduce the simplest answer is most often correct. People can't make simple connections anymore people are brain dead from google button. Critical thinking is dead. Riddle me this... Trauma runs through rich and poor children...child molesters don't seem to be classist. I would find the people who fucked these guys up and sentence them for the murders too. They are also culpable. They loaded the weapon...the weapon being a very traumatized rape victim suffering from ptsd and mental breakdown in a country with easy access to guns...but it should not be this way regardless of the guns. We need to protect our children better. Woman who are violent also...always have trauma. We need massive trauma treatment in this country to help these people who began as innocent victims who need care and love and to not feel stigmatized or discredited and help them before they have nothing to lose. We need to unfortunately normalize being a victim of molestation and discussion of abuse and rape so all children are given understanding and feel safe to discuss it without judgement and so they have tools to defend against grooming and adults also need to feel safe coming forward and society must stop acting like it is so shameful to hear about it or victim blaming survivors and pretending it isn't as common as it is..survivors should be able to tell their jobs and take time off with PAY and insurance to get care...no America tells our most vulnerable and violated to suck it up. Suck it up suffer culture should also go to jail. We make victim a dirty word and over coming torture emotional violation and abuse and all other obstacles the norm. So women but especially men suck it up go to school or work while they die inside and unravel because rape is torture and they relive it every day in their heads and have violent flashbacks and they aren't permitted by our society to discuss it or to seek help 1 in 6 men/ 1 in 4 women ( and that is only from reported cases) Americans refuse to believe in repressed memory in spite of overwhelming science. Most therapists don't treat trauma or can't be bothered they prefer people with minor issues...it's kind of considered a specialty. Lanza's mother tried. And no we don't need to minority report...treatment is highly effective...the proper treatment. I would jail incompetent therapists also. Every parent out there if your kid is having rapid behavioral shifts look deeper...they try to hide it. They won't tell what happened. And trauma can cause hallucination dissociation and be confused with other disorders BUT unlike schizophrenia or autism it is highly treatable and before it gets too bad have they suffer no faculty deficits. Much harder to treat it in an adult than a child But still also treatable.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

If it's as simple as you say, why haven't we solved the problem already? The NRA is a huge blocker polipurchasing our children's sacrifice at the altar of slave-owning legacy worship. So is the [neither]Fed[eral, nor]Ex[press?] I certainly support the Second Amendment. It explicitly states that a WELL REGULATED state militia's right to bear arms shall not be abridged. Federal-level gun control is therefore absolutely constitutional and essential due to guns walking across state lines. I think that the federal regulation of guns and ammunition is only at a minimal level. States can certainly add their own regulations as their particular customs and circumstances dictate.

We have state-mandated compulsory K-12 education for our children. While they're under our school systems' charge, we have the fiduciary duty to secure them from harm.

There are other ways to tackle the problem of violence. If we can maintain the proper hemoglycemic and serotonin levels in everyone, we can greatly reduce the level of violence in our society. Maintaining hemoglycemic level is basically about keeping everyone well fed. Maintaining serotonin level is about keeping everyone well petted. We love our cats and dogs so much because we and they enjoy serotonin release so much when we pet them. I think that on an instinctive level at least, our Orangutan ( a sociopath in beta-carotene/pootinium-composite armor? ) understands well, despite being alone without a dog in Colon-ia, the urge to grab the "jam-filled buns" and the "pussy" cats. Yep, sugar from food and petting/sex relieve stress, inhibit violence, and solve tons of social problems. Well fed + Well fucked => Foundational happiness. Which countries have these well-fed and well-fucked people? How happy are they?

I generally prefer a physical explanation for many things. The poignancy of childhood traumatic memories fades with time in general so I am skeptical that childhood traumas contribute greatly to the adult onsets of violence. It's likely the more recent events which contribute greatly. In Adam Lanza's case, his having been diagnosed with many kinds of mental problems before the massacre might have been due to the school system trying to offload him to his mother. The social stigma associated with these mental problems might have caused his mother to "hide" him "to save face," thus isolating him from social contacts. He probably had very low serotonin level. Who fed him well, petted, or had sexual intercourse with him shortly before the massacre? I suspect that the answer was NO ONE ( with bulging eyes and sunken cheeks, he looked anorexic in his published photograph. ) Hence, the boom, boom, boom, ... Much of life is about food and sex and sex and food. The bonobos as well as the hippies from the decades past got it [G-]spot on: Make love, Not war!

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

I don't know how to respond to ignorance. 1 in 6 men have childhood sexual abuse it isn't some mysterious theory. And children who are raped tend to forget and pocket away trauma ...it works out of the mind like a splinter with violent flasbaks in adulthood...confusing and terrifying these survivors ...they need rehab just like someone who survived car wreck. People forget car accidents and we accept it. Yet we doubt someone who was raped As a child. Like it (being raped and tortured) just goes away Itself like a mosquito bite? Or growing pains?Wow.!!!!This is exactly what I'm talking about. Child molesters destroy the self identity and soul I'm not sure anything can fully heal that. I can see in Lanzas dead eyes he was dissociating...only one thing causes that. That is the look of a lost soul...a lost self That was stolen violently and forcefully or manipulatively from him. Who took that away from him?...Id sure love to know. There is more prosecution needed for Newton...the person who harmed Lanza deserves life in prison. Small factoid (duh?) sex abuse survivors aren't really fond of sex and as you say boom boom? For obvious reasons. Actually while they force themselves to go numb of all feelings so the constant imagery of their torture feels less painful...the probably cant enjoy food either or much else. Please don't respond anymore Grapes...until you educate yourself on this topic.

One final thought for parents of these shooters...please find the one who destroyed your child. Make it your mission they never harm one more nor cause a chain of events that sent your child down the path of murder and suicide.You can still love the innocent child he was before. If you can get some relief at all...perhaps it would be to get some justice for the part that was stolen.

While I think gun control is worth discussing...gsw mentioned gun owner insurance. I think that is a decent idea. I don't think guns are the issue. Nor were these men suffering from some freak chemical imbalance. They were suffering from untreated trauma...likely rape which made him act off then he was bullied which triggered more trauma and flashbacks. How can one take back power after such violation....I don't know what made him kill children instead of his attacker. But we as a society need to figure out why the mind makes the jump from trauma violation to murder in someone. He felt suicidal. But why murderous of innocent lives. Was it a way to take someones innocence just as his was? To get back power that was stolen? We can see this pattern in domestic violence as well. Studies are needed. Trauma treatment and education is needed first to stop the shame and stigma of seeking help. It doesn't help anything to just call these shooters monster. We need to understand them. 1 in 6 male children are sexually abused...another child could be next.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

GRAND OL PUTRID drain the SWAMP Party making the Creatures of the Swampy Lagoon their Party of Unfriendly Values. Marco Rubio may rethink his position on large magazine round fire arms. Ohhhh make America soooo Great for the wealthy few, again. NRA wants more guns to solve all problems. Not sure it is a logical arguments, but it pushes nutters fancy buttons, and makes someone wealthy. What's wrong with slings and arrows for arms? There is a second amendment, confiscate the guns and give me 2 arrows and a kids bow. Maybe 3 round gun ok for someone who lives in polar bear land. Let's balance all our human rights equally please.

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

Millenials with their talents are going to lead a tidal swell and clean up the SWAMP https://www.salon.com/2018/02/22/marco-rubio-was-repeatedly-humiliated-at-cnns-gun-control-town-hall/

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Too bad Rick the Hairless Mole-rat wasn't there to get his share - that asshole was supposed to speak at the NRA but chickened out after the Parkland shooting. These gun nutter assholes have got to go!

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

Should be a line in the sand. 2nd amendment needs serious rethink, as is basis of war crimes against humanity, just say no to dopey tweeters and FOXY Friends

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/21/politics/claudia-tenney-mass-shooter-democrats/

[-] 3 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

AMa ZOn host NRA gun shows media channel. Wtf. NRA and GOP are a united front against our human rights of life and liberty, and equality. NRA calling social media users knuckleheads, wtf? Where is our right to speech? Only paid speech counts in USA. WTF crazy oligarchs CNN current news reporting 2/24 Fredericka broadcast. Me too and youth, are waking up to make America better oh, some companies trying to cut ties with NRA, Avis, Hertz, and an airlines

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 years ago

2nd Amendment does not protect “personal right” to own high capacity-high power weapons of war! rules Federal Court!

Good Call Here for everyone, Justices!

““Strong gun laws save lives, and we will not be intimidated by the gun lobby in our efforts to end the sale of assault weapons and protect our communities and schools,” Healey, a Democrat, said in a statement. “Families across the country should take heart in this victory.”

AR-15 assault-style rifles are under increased scrutiny because of their use in several recent mass shootings, including the February massacre at a Florida high school that left 17 people dead.

The Gun Owners Gun Owners’ Action League of Massachusetts and other groups that filed the lawsuit argued that the AR-15 cannot be considered a “military weapon” because it cannot fire in fully automatic mode.

But Young dismissed that argument, noting that the semi-automatic AR-15′s design is based on guns “that were first manufactured for military purposes” and that the AR-15 is “common and well-known in the military”

“ Assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are not protected by the Second Amendment, a federal judge said in a ruling Friday upholding Massachusetts’ ban on the weapons.

U.S. District Judge William Young dismissed a lawsuit challenging the 20-year-old ban, saying assault weapons are military firearms that fall beyond the reach of the constitutional right to “bear arms.”

https://www.apnews.com/6fc3007dee0c4949ae26e2917ae7fec4

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

2nd Amendment does not protect “personal right” to own high capacity-high power weapons of war! rules Federal Court!

One would think - that's a no brainer.

Good ruling - now watch the NRA & all the gun nutters freak and scream "their gonna only allow us Muskets"

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 5 years ago

It is more sporty and historically authentic. Bows and arrow ok too. Regulate the militia, mandate training, background check. It seems demanded by second amendment.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 5 years ago

People are required to learn how to drive and get licensed AND Buy INSURANCE, I see no reason why People shouldn't be required to learn how to own and operate a pistol and/or rifle and buy INSURANCE for them.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

Those stupid bastards that push for more guns as a deterrence should be asked why we are seeing a rise in mass shootings even though 100's of thousands of weapons have been sold in response to mass shootings all the way back to the Columbine & Aurora shootings - then slap them in the back of the head when they say there should be guns in the schools & you point out that there was a cop at Parkland that never entered the building as that 19 year old was shooting down kids!

[-] 1 points by gsw (3406) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 6 years ago

If they need a gun, should be required to purchase 100,000,000 dollars of insurance, per gun, for any who needs more than 1.

"A well regulated militia"

[-] 1 points by elf3 (4203) 6 years ago

hmmm...very interesting point on the insurance I mean we have been insuranced to death in this country...but someone can walk around with a loaded weapon and no coverage. So some asshole who fucked up raising their child has guns, leaves the case open, and a parent who held this little being holding their toes and cooing into their big innocent eyes and nurtured them into their being have to suffer that pain and bad parent with guns just has no liability?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

What government does not want to face = reality

They have made society ill - toxic stress ill - and so they all wonder - "where has all this social unrest & violence come from."

Well assholes (gov TPTB) - just like trickle down economics - it comes straight from the top - but unlike trickle down which never has trickled down - toxic stress has been coming down like a flood.


Another look @ t Tip of T Ice Berg (micro)

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/the-devastating-underdiagnosed-toll-of-toxic-stress-on-children

This is an issue of all ages an issue of ALL society (macro)

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 6 years ago

No one not even the police need to have a semi-automatic rifle that can fire hundreds of rounds in seconds for personal defense.

I just don't see an individual needing to fight off a crowd that has broken into their home as a real possibility - the only crowd likely to be breaking into anyone's home - would be the police serving a no-knock warrant!

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[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

"@1:33, 36, 2:06 I'm from Queens; Not Flushing; Racist" Yikes, Orangeneck has poor hygiene: Guns, Germs, and Stehlen. Pussy needs the "Nihao" friendship toilet so that we can watch and grab it in time as needed.