Forum Post: 26% of people who used to support OWS, now oppose it
Posted 12 years ago on Feb. 6, 2012, 8:55 p.m. EST by LetsGetReal
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from Grants, NM
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A Jan. 31 poll of San Francisco residents show that Oakland's tactics are costing the movement a huge amount of support.
26% said they used to support Occupy, but now oppose it. Only 3% once opposed it but now support it. That's a net loss of 23%. Add that 23% to the 31% who always opposed it and the majority- 54% opposes OWS, rather than the 58% who supported Occupy initially.
It is notable that 71% of all respondents opposed OO taking over a vacant building.
This data suggests to me that there is wide support for the issues raised by Occupy and that it is the tactics which will destroy Occupy.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1dd2e8b1-38aa-456a-b000-c1ab1639f64d
I did support OWS. I supported the causes. I dislike the tactics. I want to see a movement that teaches people how to drop out of a system they dislike and survive without generating so many profits for the .01% in the process. What really ticked me off was all the crap in the parks. Camping with all the comforts of home??? Consume consume consume. How about some sound advice? Choose a cheap college or don't even enroll much less take out a loan to cover it! If people stop consuming certain things, you will see changes. The tactics of OWS are geared to getting a change with smaller numbers of people. I admit an economic war would take a much higher participation level to get anything accomplished. I'd rather support actions that have to be done in mass by popular consensus and voluntary participation. I'd like to see organized boycotts that make corporations change their policies. I'd like to see schools lower tuition to the point it is possible for people to work their way threw. Just my opinion, not that anyone cares, I'm just a person. People really have to stop doing what they are doing and living the way the way they are living. At the end of the day if that doesn't happen, someone will be exploiting you and your desire to survive.
It's only my opinion, but the failure was one of strategy. I don't believe a movement can survive if all it seems interested in is raising awareness and tossing out ideas. There should have been an effort made to develop political power as other successful movements have done.
We are the greatest country on earth. It's one dollar one vote.
Show me the Money OWS? It ain't there.
Until the OWS can put a shitload of cash on the table, ... they're simply not even going to get invited to lunch on K Street.
You place too much emphasis on money, it certainly comes into play, but a group of people voting as a block for a candidate recruited by OWS could have been a start. Money may make things easier, but it also flows in with success. OWS wouldn't have been the first movement to start with no money.
Are we all so ready to just walk away from this because we've been confronted by a difficult "internal" problem? Wow! If that's the case I think we each need to look at ourselves in the mirror and ask ourselves if we're so easily pushed away from an idea that we thought we completely believed in. We are being acted upon by others and those others will infiltrate the next incarnation of this idea we all have - that things CAN be different. Now, please! Buck up and THINK about how we can solve this problem. If you still decide to walk away, perhaps you were kidding yourself about why you were here in the first place. This thing will take heart, guts and determination. So let's stop all this pissing and whining and figure it out! Work the problem.
The national media, FOX/MSNBC suggest Occupy lost the fight. The local's in my area by into that notion.
MAKE SOME NOISE! They claim victory.
That data isn't from Fox. It is exactly what I suspected would happen. Black Bloc tactics alienate people.
Please don't disregard important feedback by dismissing it as the MSM.
NO WAR
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