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Forum Post: OWS Lives On

Posted 1 month ago on April 8, 2021, 7:33 a.m. EST by factsrfun (8283) from Phoenix, AZ
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A decade later, the Founders have MovedOn the movement seems gone, certainly the misguided belief that political parties don't matter has pretty much died, I expect many understand now that the GOP represents a real threat.

Has anyone noticed the compete absence of any talk about tax cuts for the rich? In Arizona we just doubled taxes on people making over $250,000/year. OWS has caused a lasting shift in the politics making the rich richer just doesn't play anymore.

That's a good thing.

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[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2491) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 weeks ago

Do Walmart and Kroger's say to the conservative base that they despise government handouts and the taxes that must eventually follow?

I'm sure they don't care to be taxed and so that part is sincere. But what would they say to losing a substantial part of their income on grocery sales if Food Stamps were cut and that part of their customer base starved? After all, who gets to convert those food stamps to cash? What would slumlords say if welfare disappeared and they couldn't pay their mortgages?

Would it be better to have wealth extracted from you by government taxes or rentier profits? Who gives more useful goods and services for that which they take from you, the government or a Wall St. wheeler-dealer? Which is more necessary to our common well being and survival?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

"David Graeber: After the Pandemic, We Can’t Go Back to Sleep"!

"In an essay penned shortly before his death, David Graeber argued that post-pandemic, we can’t slip back into a reality where the way our society is organized — to serve every whim of a small handful of rich people while debasing and degrading the vast majority of us - is seen as sensible or reasonable."

spero meliora ...

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23408) 2 weeks ago

We must end the scourge of neoliberalism.

Tax the Rich.

Corporations are not people.

Healthcare is a human right.

Free Education.

Living Wage.

End "Employment at Will."

Green New Deal.

No more endless and unjust wars.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 1 week ago

"We are witnessing a crime against humanity’ - Arundhati Roy on India’s Covid catastrophe"

This excellent article shows what happens when RW, anti-science nationalism is allowed to run riot! Alarmingly this pattern is playing out in Brazil and UK too. The US however may have had its worst!

e tenebris, lux?

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23408) 6 days ago

“Let’s try and not be a cry baby.”

Try not to pay attention to the fact that the possibility of a dire shortage of oxygen had been flagged as far back as April 2020, and then again in November by a committee set up by the government itself. Try not to wonder why even Delhi’s biggest hospitals don’t have their own oxygen-generating plants. Try not to wonder why the PM Cares Fund – the opaque organisation that has recently replaced the more public Prime Minister’s National Relief Fund, and which uses public money and government infrastructure but functions like a private trust with zero public accountability – has suddenly moved in to address the oxygen crisis. Will Modi own shares in our air-supply now?

“Let’s try and not be a cry baby.” - Arundhati Roy

Because, asking for stuff, just basic things that humans need, is considered whining and admitting you have need is considered a failure by a market economy driven by greed and selfishness.

The influence of neoliberalism, the direct result of Ayn Rand's f-kn looney me me me philosophy is taking down the human race and any kind of meaning our lives might have, right before our eyes. This must stop!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 days ago

Note "Britain is Self-Destructing ... and it’s a Warning to the World"! ... by Umair Haque:

"What happens when people become too foolish and backwards for Democracy to function?"

Thanx for your important quote & comment & note this utterly shocking linked article^above!!

Most Brits haven't even heard of Ayn Rand, yet her malign influence has reached them now!

MULTUM in parvo!

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23408) 3 days ago

Voting against their own chance at happiness, that's what these right wing governments have managed to get people to do. Infuriating.

From "Britain is Self-Destructing ... and it’s a Warning to the World"! ... by Umair Haque

https://eand.co/britain-is-self-destructing-and-its-a-warning-to-the-world-b492870ffc28

"Anyone would be better than the party that has destroyed your society, your chance at a better life, your trust, happiness, income, savings, mobility, possibility."

You would think this would be obvious, but when you are not too bright (because you've been poorly educated) and you don't think for yourself (because you're too busy working long hours at a shitty paying job) and you absorb right wing propaganda (because it's thrown in your face) that your problems were created by the "other," then you are willing to vote against your own actual interests. But, there is one thing required for this to work and that is that you have the tendency to hate people who aren't in one's own likeness. And, that means RACISM.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 days ago

"Jeremy Corbyn on Bernie, COVID & Thatcherism – 2021 Interview"

JC in conversation with Jacobin Media's - Anna Kasparian & Nando Vila.

Just look what you could've had UK! But JC is still in The 99% Struggle!

per ardua ad astra et dum spiro, spero ...

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8283) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

You say "we must", what specifically do you think we should do? Go camping? Or maybe vote? If we vote, how should we vote? For the Greens?

BTW I don't hold any political office but I'd still like to do something, not just demand others do it...

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

U saw the word "Neoliberalism" and were immediately triggered, weren't U frf, lol?! How dare U

assume that we still here don't do things, other than just "vote"?!! U sound like a RW reactionary!

et temet nosce!

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 4 weeks ago

Yes, "OWS Lives On"! But no thanx to the Democraps' Zero-Sum Game, Binary!

No Links; No Latin!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8283) from Phoenix, AZ 4 weeks ago

Still can't see any difference between Biden and Trump? Why am I not surprised.

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 3 weeks ago

Can't see past Biden? Or One Election Cycle? Still stuck with simplistic straw man binaries?

Still NO IDEA whatsoever about The Class War being waged upon U$A's 99%, by a 0.01%?

No guarantee Biden makes 4 years; for sure can't do 8. Then what? No idea or care .. right?

Trump was an aberration from 'the norm'; Biden is a correction NOT a solution! Geddit? No?

Still opposed to / ignorant of, the idea of why a True 99% Movement is so important in USA?

"Why am I not surprised?"

PS, NB .. https://www.democracynow.org/2021/1/21/dr_cornel_west_maria_hinojosa_biden

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8283) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

Have you even looked at anything that's being done? I think not, you're so lazy Shadz. I've been watching what the Democrat AOC has been doing, what the hell has your "doupoly" crap been doing?

[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 weeks ago

But "lazy" is Pro Status Quo, U duopoly dependent dumb dingbat!!! For every "AOC" there are

several Joe Machins, U total fkn moron!! Republicunts or Democraps, they're on U, factsRfukt!

The USA's 99%'s struggle is way bigger and broader than your Dumb Democrap Dependence!

More of the same inability/refusal to see the Class Struggle past one (s)election cycle is idiotic!

ergo - per aspera ad astra!

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 4 weeks ago

Trumpery regime has delayed the nuclear-war reckoning. We'll just have to see whether we can avoid that with the Biden-Harris vaccine. The Demonkrapts have traitors among them who will block the party's agenda for their states' localized gains so don't be too hopeful.

The Demonkrapts had control of all three branches and both houses of the most powerful branch of our federal government right after the Obama administration had started and yet it couldn't deliver anything better than Romney Care. Our coal states' representatives are the bane of our nation's advancement, obviously. Obama's administration had only sent a Martha Stewart to jail and no one else for the systemic fraud committed by the Wall Street investment bankers and rating agencies. Even the Reagan adminitration sent thousands of fraudsters of the Savings and Loan Debacle to jail. Martha Stewart only did what our U.S. Senate intelligence committee member did about the oncoming CoViD-19 pandemic -- trading on insider information. Note that although I had told whoever wanted to know from here about the upcoming onslaught of CoViD-19, it wasn't insider information because I had cloaked it as political speech ( but the thinking people probably deciphered what I had truly wanted to say -- no one needed to wear an N-95 mask to express solidarity with the Hong Kongers ! as lower-grade masks could have worked symbolically; as I had said before, "There is gold in them Pis ! " -- I got more than enough for myself, of God's liquid gold baptizing me multiple times so I shared.)

Male primates lay their Tee-off hands upon the rumps of the females to signal their desire to mate so our powerful men grab women's breasts to do the same. Homo sapiens sapiens have advanced to grabbing a different side of the females. Absolutely glorious ! Only wise primates which belong to the same level as King Solomon and possess Nobel-prize-winner "quality" sperm could have figured out that humanizing breakthrough, largely avoiding the error of "wrong hole" which was known to afflict some childless couples of Great-Infowalled countries such as Red China { or perhaps Japan also } ( the U.S. isn't one of these because we stage sexually explicit bachelor parties in which skills are passed on with the wonderful national-defense-supporting-by-whetting-babymaking help of a beautifully suggestive female model and dancer { but there is absolutely no hands-on touching allowed as the bridegroom's whetted appetite is reserved for his mating with his bride } and demonstrated via educational videos to the bridegroom; we don't field uneducated husbands to become newly weds on the battlefield of marriage so that they can become fruitful and multiply; With proper intelligence arming our bridegrooms, Americans score so we don't have large population declines, the sure killers of any society; we also import vast number of hopefully young susceptible-to-patriotic-civics immigrants who can leap off and over the old-time flight exit corridor 鯉魚門 "as in an Alaskan airport, there's nothing but the cold, jetfuel, [maybe rapes] and myriad of mosquitoes basking in the weak light of the low-in-the-sky sun" to replenish our population shortfall so that America as an idea, Liberty/"E Pluribus Unum," shall never die.) Of course, humans are the only ( oops - I was wrong ! the bonobos also made this humanizing breakthrough but they're also sexy ones just like humans are so as an avid scientist, I amend my hypothesis to "highly socially cooperative primates may mate face-to-face and use sex for soliciting social cooperation, promoting Xi-harmony" { Australia and the U.S. woke up to us having been fucked; other weaker countries liked being prostitutes and probably loved getting more Xi-fucked-up-for-Xi-money; they're not concubines because Red China had outlawed polygamy so Xi can't have concubines but who the prostitute cuntries are can be as secretive as the Hogwart-attending daughter Xi Mingze had been, classified as being just another state secret; Truth: children tend to look like their parents } ) primates who mate in the godly missionary position face-to-face and it's probably true that only Homo females have such large and heavy bags of fat dangling from their front sides so yeah, they are indeed more attractive to Homo males who have baby hands-grabbing-for-fruits fetish and thus also love playing and grabbing basketballs. Perhaps due to their subliminal sexual frustration and sublimation coming from the horrendously imbalanced sex ratio, most Red Chinese males love playing basketball. Red China is rather deprived in the silicone/cosmetic-surgery department, nowhere close to U.S. Hollywood L.A. ( breast enhancements ) or South Korea ( nose jobs.) When I had to piss, my Dad told me of his trick to prevent me pissing in my pants: run briskly, take aim, and get it into the hoop. Yeah, that sounded like a basketball game to me, one which a whole bunch of our teenaged bronco bucks who still lacked King Solomon's wisdom ( or King David's quick study ) surely missed playing on Lantau/Lantou Island while climbing over to the other side of the mountain after drinking Bath-she-bra's soapy bathwater. I had actually followed Dad's direction after drinking the tall glass of freshly squeezed orange juice. Thus I found favor in God's eyes and got myself baptized by the bidét. I shouldn't have pressed the wrong button at the wedding banquet but... God willing !

Let me tell you what I think our Trumpery regime did well: we haven't got into an official fight with the Russians or the North Koreans. Of course, I was far more concerned with the Russians in Syria than North Korea' pyrotechnics at that time. The Russians had a history of disguising themselves to invade nearby countries such as Ukraine with Russian-speaking Russian-military-equipped no-Russian-insignia balaclava-clad contractors { who broadcast Pootin's "state secret" of invading Ukraine, to the world that they were in Ukraine ! Here's a previous "state secret" about the greatest tanking battle won by the cover-up truthy State in the Great Patriotic War of 2002 while Stalin continued to vacation on Black Sea's shore for four more days; the yelling mother was given a jab to silence her; I should have shot at that humongous aluminum mother hen screaming above the Kowloon-City rooftop right after her chicken's throat had been slit, drained of blood, and stuffed into a bucket of black goo } or attacking the U.S. in cyberspace. Turkey did shoot down a Russian fighter jet when the Russians bullied it by trespassing its airspace. The U.S. also did kill hundreds of Russian mercenary contractors in East Syria being funded by Iran.

With Hillary's no-fly zone over northern Syria to be imposed by the U.S. airforce, we could have gotten/got ourselves into a shooting war with Russia ! Actually, it could be Ukraine that will become the fuse. Stalin was so idiotic in the Winter War with bullying Finland, a neighboring country which should have been on U.S.S.R. side because Nazi Germany would soon be invading both Finland and the U.S.S.R. but Stalin was so bent on gobbling up neighbors as the several small Baltic countries had already been swallowed by the U.S.S.R. It's just karma that now-Russia's neighbors largely aspire to join N.A.T.O. Contrast U.S.S.R.'s dealing with Finland with U.S.A.'s dealing with Mexico when it was hit by the Asian financial contagion and we can all see why the U.S. has far more allies worldwide than Russia does. The U.S. leases hundreds of military bases worldwide largely not because the U.S. has fought many wars to acquire them but because the U.S. is considered to be contributing to security, peace, and prosperity over there and is relatively benign when compared to the alternatives such as the Red Giants.

I very much regret that the U.S. had killed so many unwitting-of-their-Iran-backing Russian mercenary contractors in East Syria. I had previously stated that "I don't hate Russia; I don't hate the Russian people; I hate the way in which Russia's government treats its own people." When the U.S. soldiers asked the Russian deconfliction command whether any Russians were involved in the tank-powered attack on U.S. soldiers in East Syria, the Russian deconfliction command should have replied "yes" and called off all of the Russians fighting in the battle there. I think that the U.S. soldiers had indeed suspected that they might be fighting the Russians or they wouldn't have called up the Russian deconfliction command to confirm the absence of any Russians there fighting in the battle. In the murkiness of the nighttime attacks, they didn't quite know for sure with whom they were fighting. They showed the American flag and called the Russian deconfliction command. They operated according to the established rules of engagement which had the right to self defense ( by calling in airstrikes.) Pootin's subsequent cover-up was disgusting and irresponsible, precisely what I had stated previously: I hate the way in which Russia's government treats its own people. Yeah, the Navalny case is a human right violation and a travesty of justice.

I know how that out-of-field-of-view protection worked. I didn't carry a light carbine when I was baptized at the second time ( not by a bidét but probably by a chamber pot ) but those Set-High-In-Transit resettlement-buildings' people would certainly "hear all of us" with the shots into their pocketbooks and more. He makes all things beautiful, in His time [in Cantonese, not CCP's contrarian-named Putonghua because Putonghua is hua or speech that is absolutely not Putong or common in southern China which is south of the mighty Yangtze/Yangtse River].

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8283) from Phoenix, AZ 2 weeks ago

So postings like this will surely make it better, right?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 2 weeks ago

Right. This has already made it better. Whale shark is the biggest fish in the pond with entourage but it's not as scary as the Great White shark without much entourage. Lions shall lie down next to the sheep and eat the grass together.

The Obama administration did one better than Pootin's unadministration because it had sent one Martha Stewart to jail in the aftermath of the systemic-fraud-triggered Great Recession felt worldwide but the latter had found no one responsible for the Kursk submarine crew's demise. U.S.A. is so much more superior than Russia is, by having the Democrats in charge ! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! Vote, Vote, Vote Democrat ! God bless Amerika.

New Orleans ( bow-shaped and a part of it was already under water level before hurricane Katrina hit; both Popular Mechanics and Scientific American magazine, after the manmade disasters of Sep. 11th, 2001, had published articles predicting the catastrophic drowning of New Orleans { the Bushit-political-loyalty-appointee, that other "Adjunct Lecturer" padded to an "Outstanding Political Science Professor" Michael D. Brown, was "leadening" the FEMA rescue effort }; if Japan were a more worldly literate culture, it could have noticed the Haitian tsunami of 2010 and taken actions to avoid the Tohoku tsunami triggering the multiple nuclear reactor meltdowns at Fukushima in 2011 which probably wouldn't have happened if IMPORTED electricity were still available for driving the cooling-water pumps { New Orleans during Katrina also had very powerful water pumps to limit flooding but without electricity they couldn't work to save the city from being drowned; } it's why I said that Japan had an insular culture, perhaps due to its not being plugged in to the English-speaking world's chatter; this is why I value multilingual understanding because using it often provides superior early warning of major events coming at us which had first been experienced by other peoples; also cover-ups by governments tend not to work effectively on the multilingual multisensory global monitors due to the disclosures by their friends, oppositions, or enemies ) needs to retreat away from the seawater/lake or brackish water of the Gulf of Mexico to get to higher grounds as many coastal cities do, especially areas near Seattle which shore faces an offshore tectonic plate subduction zone so it needs to be prepared for a big earthquake and perhaps a subsequent tsunami but don't move to valley areas too close to that prominently visible active volcano Mt. Rainier which may erupt melting the huge snow and ice pack surrounding its peak, quickly steaming and flushing most things down its slopes.

They don't bury the dead in.. New Orleans.

But really do others ? How about Leningrad/St. Petersburg submariners, Yekaterinburg/Sverdlovsk czar family's execution and anthrax leak from a non-Chinese but still Soviet-Red bioweapon facility, and Khabarovsk сергей фургал ? MH-17 Dutch funeral procession ?

бабушка, бабушка, бабушка ! 》Daß nie eine Mutter mehr Ihren Sohn beweint, Ihren Sohn beweint.《

As the World mourns the deaths in the fight against новичок terrorism and N.A.T.O. finally draws down the troops in Afghanistan, we can learn from the techniques used by Walt Disney World to keep mosquitoes away to guard against mosquitoes' insurgence. No mosquito breeding ground is to be allowed. Mosquitoes are the worst killers of human beings.

I like the very old no-gutter, yay ! Chinese architecture which drains and disperses rainwater on roofs automatically. I used to think the partly near-brachistochrone-shaped-for-drainage-gradient-for-wide-rainwater-dispersion curved roof was an artistic implement but it's actually very functional: such a roof is literally drainage ditches, strong ceramic curved tile steps, and great heat-insulating ceramic curved tiles all integrated into one. Ceramic is forever material, aside from its being brittle. We can still clearly read many ancient Babylonian cuneiform tablets from several millennia ago.

I figured out why so many ( 35 to 55 millions ) Red Chinese were starved in the Great Famine ( also in order to misdirect blame, deliberately misnamed by the famine-inducing butchers of Red China as the three-year natural disaster.) I also understand why they went after the sparrows and impressed my Mom so much that although they couldn't fly, the sparrows which could fly still couldn't escape: they probably ate the sparrows which the CCP blamed for eating the harvest, causing their starvation.

There was probably systemic lying up and down the command chain ( no different from the U.S.S.R.'s systemic lies after the Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the Kursk submarine disaster; Red China's deliberate decision to let Chinese New Year mass festivities of 2020 and international flights to proceed while banning domestic flights were similarly covering up the severity of the CoViD-19 threat to the Chinese people and the entire outside world ) there being so much fear of the despot's punishments that virtually everybody was meeting their quotas of production by lying. The non-liars got punished for missing their quotas and starved while the liars were spared and fed. The ones at the top continued to export foodstuffs to the U.S.S.R. under the premise of the lie propagated from the lower levels that there was ample harvest with quotas having been met. Liars were thus Darwinian-selected to remain in the Party of manmade famine butchers.