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Hands Off Syria! Anti-War Actions, Sep 7th and 9th

Posted 10 months ago on Sept. 5, 2013, 3:29 p.m. EST by OccupyWallSt
Tags: syria, anti-war


via UNAC and interoccupy.net:

A collective fierce voice demanding, “Not another war” is resounding across the country and around the world.

Now is the moment to make our voices heard.

Join unified actions this Sat. Sept. 7, in

NEW YORK’s TIMES SQUARE, 42ND STREET AND SEVENTH AVENUE AT 1 PM & in Boston, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles

and on

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE with Syrian American Forum from 10 to 12. Marching to Congress – Upper Senate Park

Click HERE to find an action near you.

Join in to stop the attack on Syria. The coming days provide the last chance to mobilize popular resistance to the military strike. The people fear both the political and economic consequences of another costly war. Millions believe the pretext for the war is another Big Lie like the lies used before the Vietnam, Iraq and Libya wars. We need to join together to loudly oppose this new war.

Poised to launch weapons of mass death on the Syrian people, the administration has called time out to try to win over the population and Congress with a “full-court press” assault of war propaganda. We must meet this with a “full-court press” response.

Along with the dozens of protests held last week in the U.S. and hundreds worldwide, the anti-attack forces have called major actions in the next week and a full week of lobbying and local actions.

Under the slogans of “Hands off Syria! Not another war!” the International Action Center initiated a call for a united regional action of all antiwar forces for September 7 at Times Square at 42nd Street and Seventh Avenue, NYC at 1 p.m.

Other actions on Saturday, September 7 include a protest called by the Answer Coalition in front of the White House at noon. There are also regional coalitions organizing demonstrations in Boston, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco and Los Angeles, among other cities.

Many groups are also organizing delegations to congressional offices in the coming week before congressional members head back to DC on Sept 9. The delegations range from polite visits to demonstrations to plans for encampments on the doorstep.

Full listings of endorsing organizations and cities where actions are planned can be found at iacenter.org. Click HERE to view an endorsers list. Click HERE to endorse, support or list a local action. Click HERE to find an action near you.

Broad support is also growing for an initiative by the Syrian American Forum to hold its “Hands Off Syria, Don’t bomb Syria” March on Washington on Sept. 9, when Congress is due to reconvene. The group is organizing buses from the Midwest, South New York and other areas for a Monday rally in front of the White House.

Already 50 organizations have endorsed and are mobilizing for these and other actions, including the United National Antiwar Coalition. Among them is “coordinated day of varied actions directed at Congress” on Friday, Sept. 6, from 4-6 p.m. Click HERE to view a full listing of actions. Click HERE to view an endorsers list.

Click HERE to view more endorsers. Click HERE to endorse, support or list a local action. Click HERE to find an action near you.



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[-] 2 points by shadz66 (18079) 10 months ago

"The best ways to get in touch with your member of congress is either a phone call or email. We do our best to respond to both" said the office of my own Representative Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. "It's better to ring us and let us know how you feel. Physical letters are fine, but there is a time lag''. This is a somewhat time sensitive issue. We still have a few more days until congress is in session to deliberate''.

fiat pax ...


[-] 1 points by Toynbee (656) from Savannah, GA 10 months ago
  • Where does civilized society draw the line?

  • Our grandparents left us a legacy and a bountiful nation.

  • They paid for it, in part, with blood lost in World Wars I & II.

  • After WWI, the global society was so horrified and appalled by the mustard gas and other chemicals that killed randomly and without conscience that the civilized society established norms.

  • Syrian troops have crossed the line.

  • When do we enforce the norms we inherited from our ancestors?

  • When do we say no more?

[-] 1 points by Binh (83) 10 months ago
[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

I like what he seems to be saying:

  • being morally bankrupt on a case-by-case basis by answering 'no' is no better. The way out of this devilish dilemma for this nascent opposition to U.S. airstrikes is to make support for Bashar al-Assad and his war a red line and join hands with the Syrians abroad who are not on Assad's side.
[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

the red line law is old else it would have included explosives

[-] 1 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago

The so called "Red Line" is just another ploy to ramp up fictitious moral justification to boost propaganda efforts and so blind Americans who have little depth in their knowledge of the real crimes being committed.

The real criminals who have murdered millions are not a part of the propaganda and remain un-named.

Gas is not a new weapon. The makers and suppliers have a crucial role in the destruction of life - all towards a longer term profit strategy.


Where is the "Red Line" when the US gases / poisons its own without trial. What action is taken then. The actual harm to US people is real when soldiers/sailors are killed or maimed and also the harm to the US is real when invasion and carnage in other homelands is committed, as it has been with sickening regularity.

Many US citizens have become blaze about deaths abroad. The shootem up mentality is reinforced with the thousands of computer games fed to the young and old alike.

Hawks are sicko along with their cheer leaders.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

i believe countries voted against weapons of mass destruction after world war 1.

those weapons then being gas weapons

if the world considered those weapons today, large explosions would also have been included

[-] -1 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago

Common sense finds it hard to separate the methodologies of many atrocities


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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

link broken

I can easily imagine nations voting against mass murder

[-] 0 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago


[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 10 months ago

I remember my suspicious about

the US involvement of chemical weapons in Iraq

when Saddam Hussein was executed

before the gassing of the Curds came to trail for him.

[-] 0 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago

You cannot believe most of what comes out of Washington or Obama and the others.



[-] -1 points by Binh (83) 10 months ago

Notice how none of these clowns is protesting about "war in Syria" now that U.S. involvement in that ongoing, three-year long war has been dialed back for now.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

kiss my ass you lying KOCH sucker

you name fakin fuker


[-] 0 points by NicYown (0) 10 months ago

I wrote this tune to protest US military action in Syria:


[-] 0 points by 2walterpenny2 (7) 10 months ago

Question?? Where did Syria get Chemical Weapons? If it is a Civil War and the so-called rebels were to win are they the majority or do they represent the minority? IS it time to just let the region fight it out, best able man wins? And going to war in Syria does what for the USA? Who's paying for the war the Democrats or the Republicans? or will it come out of Social Security? The same guys who got us all into Iraq and Afghanistan now 3 trillion dollars later ... losing in Afghanistan and Iraq less of a Country then before! IS it not time to let Turkey, Israel and the Saudis take care of there own neighborhood?! You dont see China or Russia running all over North, Central or South America? Time to let up on the USA Global Police thing! Its total BS. Gets old, goes no where and the only ones profiting are the War Department (old name the Defense Department) and its suppliers. Obama and Kerry are Grand Standing when the economic news is getting worse, A 14 trillion dollar trade deficit largest on the Planet, 17 trillion dollar national debt again the largest on the Planet, and a go no where leadership from anyone in DC. Talk about a bunch of losers playing with other people lives! You wouldnt let these guys run your business or date your daughter but your going to let them tell you "GO TO WAR" Time to say good bye to the Middle East and its time to out law war ....by anyone! Obama's BS is so thick, let him keep talking and talking and talking after while everyone in the conflict will stop fighting just to get Obama to shut up! Jim Evanhoe Say No to Any War!

[-] 0 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

Good Start! But let us remember what happened with Iraq. The entire world was in protest, and former Prez Bush went in anyway while saying public opinion did not concern him. So here we are again. I can say straight from experience protest alone will not stop the U.S. from making war. We need to supplement our protest with stronger threats and measures. May we also organize in the event of the US expanding the war in Syria (as if they don't now have their dirty fingers in it) union organized strikes, people staying home from work, pulling money out of stock markets and other investments, closing up shops for a few days, petitions to Congress that no person voting for war will be voted for when re-election time comes, and other real and symbolic measures which may effectively ]cause those stoking for war to rethink their plans.

[-] 0 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

Here are my own two cents . . . I'm sure that in your mind that is perhaps more than they are worth . . .


  1. The latest episode is merely one more horrific event in a conflict that has increasingly taken on genocidal characteristics. The case for action at first glance is indisputable. The UN now confirms a death toll over 100,000 people, the vast majority of whom have been killed by Assad's troops. An estimated 4.5 million people have been displaced from their homes. International observers have overwhelmingly confirmed Assad's complicity in the preponderance of war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Syrian people. The illegitimacy of his regime, and the legitimacy of the uprising, is clear. . . . . . What is beyond doubt is that Assad is a war criminal whose government deserves to be overthrown. The question is by whom, and for what interests?

  2. Israel’s preferred outcome of the conflict is to have no solution at all—to have both sides, neither of whom Israel particularly likes, fight and bleed each other dry. Although the fall of the Syrian regime would greatly weaken Hezbollah and Iran, Israel is wary of the prospect of radical Islamists who are willing to turn their arms toward the Jewish state.

  3. Editor's note: What is the driving force in the building U.S. campaign to launch attacks on Syria? Max Blumenthal below argues that Israel's military intelligence and political leadership are forcing the issue, and a recent New York Times article described the Israel lobby as a powerful presence in the White House's deliberations. Other journalists, like the Guardian's Nafeez Ahmed have suggested that the impetus for attacking Syria is part of a larger regional multi-year project to sustain control over the production of oil and gas by Western oil companies. Noam Chomsky, long-time scholar and commentator on the Mideast has argued persuasively that the Israel lobby's influence in the United States is overstated; essentially arguing that Israel is a satellite of US power, and that its priorities are addressed to the extent that the US is in agreement with its wishes.

    • This editor's note to the article By Max Blumentha - How Israel Is driving the US to War in Syria, illustrates the various points of view are clearly not all in agreement and some may serve specific agendas and / or national / corporate interests. For example - blaming Israel could actually further the goal articulated in item 2 above.

Given the complexity of considerations and the geopolitical calculations perhaps it is best to step back and ask: what is the right thing to do?


let us kill Assad, I say.

And then let us turn our gaze upon the one percent who would rule over us and proclaim: a new deal is at hand.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

So its like taking that guy's advice who said "Give me liberty or give me death," some couple hundred years ago. Knowing that Assad is not giving the Syrians liberty, we'll then give 'em death?

I'm not so sure of that. I think we ought leave to the Syrians to make that decision for themselves.

You need to keep in mind if it were not for the U.S.A. 1% stoking for regime change in Syria there would be no war over there in the first place.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

Some have made that argument. There is an alternative point of view, one that is at least as heinous.

so because it is too difficult, to complicated, and too hard to understand the various players, their agendas, how and why they seek to exploit this situation, we must simply leave Assad to his program of chemical extermination.

How compassionate. How humane.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

What makes you so convinced it was Assad who used the chemical weapons and he has any sort of program of chemical extermination? The only people saying that are the same people who made the same claim about Saddam Hussain, and that was proven to be total toro guano (after an entire country was pulverized and so many more people were made dead.) Much of what I'm reading actually suggests it was the rebels who used the chemical weapons. Remember nobody was killing anybody until this war started, and Assad was in power way long before that. The real war crime is stoking a war, and we know who is doing that; not Assad.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

first, you start out with the fallacious assumption that Bushite Cheney is still in power. They are not.

Second, is the fact that yes we were led into Iraq on the basis of a lie. Under that lie lay the premise that Iraq could be turned into a wonderful black hole for terrorists. That premise may be in play here, and you completely discount it.

Third, it is precisely because of the lie that got us into Iraq, and the fact that it was sold to so many foreign nations who now resent having bought it that the production of such a lie today becomes much more difficult. Give it another 10 - 20 years and maybe they can try that one again, we'll see.

Fourth, it is absolutely a waste of my time attempting to point such facts out to deluded fools who cannot distinguish either differences or opportunities present between different administrations

those who pick up and swear by the mantra they are both the same without any question, any exploration, any proof, are every bit as bad as those who come among us with such lies and one percent propaganda.


What is the right thing to do?

You could seek out actual Syrian anarchists and see what they have to say.

or not.

[-] -1 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago

Just read your history of US / UK / Israel hegemony in the Middle East through last century.

It does not take a lot to get the bones of what is happening.

Demanding a view of rights and wrongs about Assad is futile, extremely short sighted showing a shallow grip of the power play and aggression of the two puppets and master listed above.

The US people are paying for the gains for others through ruthless means and war tactics.

Millions outside of the US have perished as a result of these manufactured wars. Many millions more are maimed and their families and societies smashed and left in misery to eke out survival.

Be it Bush or Obama, the same backers rule the US, not the people who largely remain confused and argue petty politics. It keeps them busy while a fundamental shift of wealth and power is played out. The wealth is shifted to the few pulling the strings.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

ok, so beneath this overarching madness we find Assad and his chemical weapons killing kids . . . .

you know what? never mind. IF I'm walkin down the street and someone beans you on the head to take your wallet, I think I'll just shrug and say . . .

  • Be it Bush or Obama, the same backers rule the US, . . . The wealth is shifted to the few pulling the strings.
[-] 0 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago

I agree with you about any injustice and particularly the rights to enjoy fair protection from aggressive and criminal actions of others whether they be individuals or organized groups of law breakers.

The warmongers have taken over the rule of many Middle East countries installing their tame dictators and siphoning off resources. The US ( and other bedfellows ) have played a devious game that needs to be comprehended before the present situation is understood.

The news media is hardly a source of education. There are many writers who have laid out the woeful record of intervention in most countries of the region, and the colonialism is well canvassed history.

Since WWII the stakes have ramped up with the installation of Israel and its illegal expansion, nuclear and military arsenal contributed by the US at the US tax payers expense.

The hypocrisy surrounding ongoing treatment of many large groups in the region is not confined to Syria.

When it comes to "killing kids" bombing appears to be the major method used. Depleted Uranium can and is damaging the unborn and will do so for generations ahead.

Its a messy criminal business and being selective in applying force is a political tool used for profit of the powerful.

Peace is not sought in spite of the spin generated by Washington.

The funding, arming and training of so called "rebels " is an old ploy in fomenting breakdown of governments. There are several recent examples in the Middle East and numerous occasions closer to home.

Truth is the first casualty in war.

[-] -1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

Contrary to popular belief, U.S. Presidents are not elected, but are selected by those who really run this country. Bush, Cheney, and Obama work for the same people. Iraq, Syria, and eventually Iran are part of the same 1%/Pentagon game plan to remake take over the Middle-east.

Obviously we don't agree on what are the real ground facts. In seeking truth, how solid is your logic?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

You seem to suggest that the . . . appointment process is well established and functions in a completely smooth, and predictable manner.

If that is true, then it must be a relatively new development, unless you intend to suggest that the . . . appointment process . . . . of 2000 all part of the grand plan . . .

  • for surely this was anything but smooth

you fukers need to test the validity of your cliches once in a while, just to make sure you know where you are going.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

Never said anything was smooth. A few good folks manage to slip through the appointment process now and then.

Surely, you can see this war agenda is not a Republican versus Democrat thing as the lead players of both parties are supporting essentially the same thing when it comes to making war in the Middle-East. It is the rogues in both parties that are the threat to the evil establishment.

Who's using cliches? ....and ah yes the use of vulgarities; the first signs of an argument that is withering.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

A few good folks manage to slip through the appointment process now and then.


so in your view, when was the last good President?

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

I'd say Jimmy Carter.

Al Gore I think would have been a good President, but you know what happened to him.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

I find it difficult to take you seriously.

[-] 1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

And who is your favorite President of recent times?

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

how about the one conservative mutherfukers shot

and nope, I don't mean ray.gun

[-] 2 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

Forget the President, he sold out to the dark side long ago. The Future lies with the rogues in both parties.

And to save the lives of some of my fellow human beings, I'm willing to for go a little health care in the near term. The 1% wants war in Syria, and if that can be stopped, the 1% lose, and that opens the door to the people winning on other things also.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

so then the one percent win.

Just like Goldman Sux, they have hedged their bets. Goldman sold a bad product, and then bet against it. Double or nothing. And when they got caught they did not even go to jail. They had hedged their bets.

[-] 2 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

If your referring to Kennedy; yes he was a good President.

But getting back to the subject, if Obama goes after Assad with U.S. military forces a whole lot of innocent people are going to die; a whole lot more than what Assad ever killed, or ever will kill. Like somebody provoking a snake, and a snake bites somebody, is it the snake's fault? No, the fault is with the guy who provoked the snake.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

so then the one percent win.

Just like Goldman Sux, they have hedged their bets. Goldman sold a bad product, and then bet against it. Double or nothing. And when they got caught they did not even go to jail. They had hedged their bets.

Just like now.

If Russian influence remains, they have lost nothing, regardless of when the issue is decided.

So long as the western public does not support action against Assad, there will be no unity among the masses, and from this the one percent gain.

IF Obama launches even a modest attack, and the western public does not support such an act, he appears weaker, and his future advocacy on other issues becomes even more problematic, and from this the one percent gain - they gain more control and a greater ability to impact the outcome of his future advocacy, regardless of whether they want the same thing or not.

They have hedged their bets and cannot loose.

[-] -1 points by JosephB (26) 10 months ago


[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5805) from St Louis, MO 10 months ago

We've been trying to tell Zen for days there's no proof yet that Assad was responsible, but he refuses to listen.

"The real war crime is stoking a war."

Well put.

[-] -1 points by Shule (1696) 10 months ago

Either he has cognition dissonance, or he's a troll on the 1% take. I don't know the cure. May God bless his heart.

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

The 1% are the ones who are drumming this thing up.

[-] 3 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

wait - wait - wait


you have health insurance? BCBS health insurance?


the kids I met in the park didn't look like they had any insurance - unless the government had labeled them as insane in which case they probably get medicare . . . .

and your insurance rates have gone up . . . what did you say?

yet you still have the insurance . . .

so - you obviously have resources. And all that time off work hasn't adversely impacted your employment status . . . unless standing on the protest line was your employment status . . . .


you lyin conservative shill



[-] -3 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Wow, you are one dumb son of a bitch.

Do you have insurance?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

As my post points out, the one percent are not at all unified on that point.

When someone says divide and conquer you don't have a clue, do you. Even pie doesn't cross your mind.

War itself, is evidence of division among the one percent ruling class of this world.

Why don't you get your head out of your ass and face facts. Oh. Right. Lap dogs of the ruling elite have no need of them.

[-] 0 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Actually, the central banks funded both sides of most major wars over time. Central bankers love war more than anything else because it drums up the most money for them.

Although this unlimited bailout stage we are in is right on war's tail.

Prescott Bush being the most visible example. Usually they stay out of the limelight, but leave it to a Bush to screw it up.

The people who run the money have loyalty to one thing- the money.

You think they care about shit like US vs Germany? Syria gas or not? haha.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

even if it were true that every single one percent pretender either worked in banking or found ways to profit from both sides during war - we would then be left right where we are now -

engaged in a silly assed debate over what the right thing to do is when it should be obvious.

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Honestly, just look at who is pushing this thing. The same exact crowd as every other horrible thing that happens.

I'm not rolling with that crowd. That crowd is part of the problem.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

right, right, I get it - that horrible, evil crowd of BLACK MEN in the White House . . . .

you repelican scumbag

It does not mean a damn thing to you that he is pushing this uphill against a head wind . . . fuk you

[-] -1 points by broncoze (-126) 10 months ago

Actually, Obama's administration is as white as Vermont.

[-] -3 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

I was speaking more of the Congress, sorry. The president has only been in there for 5 years.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

then obviously and as per usual, you simply have not been paying attention

The Congress is not pushing this - if anything they are pushing for the President to seek their permission and nothing more. Last I checked most of the house was still undecided.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Senate Resolution. Less ranking members are meaningless in this system, its top down and shit goes down hill.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

pop quiz mutherfuker

out of 100 Senators, how many voted on Wednesday, September 4, on the issue of Presidential authorization for an attack on Syria in response to the Assad regime's use of chemical weapons?

[-] -2 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Not even close to 100. Like I said, they are busy bribing the rest of the members right now.

Theres going to be another gas attack, this one more visual and disturbing than the last one, that will sway the public enough to allow for another unilateral decision for more bombs.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (13420) from South Burlington, VT 10 months ago

18 Senators of The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted

The results:

10 yea

7 nea

1 present

What that means, since you are either too stupid, too lazy, or simply too partisan to understand, is that the chambers of Congress are divided on this issue, and may in fact vote against taking action.

IF they vote no, what does that mean? Either one, or possibly both of the following:

  1. some, if not many, members of Congress may actually fear the consequence of their vote at the next election

  2. some, if not many, members of Congress may actually be swayed by back room deals based on the premise that it is better to let al Qaida train and gain experience in Syria, and thus provide a source of conflict well into the future from which profit may be made.

[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Yes, too partisan. Thats the problem I suffer from...

If the elites want to bomb it, it will go through. Just like all the other garbage. Keeping it close is very important to them, it keeps people believing.

The carrot and donkey trick, if you will.

I think your point in #2 is pretty spot on.

[-] 2 points by broncoze (-126) 10 months ago

Follow the money

Senators Authorizing Syria Strike Got More Defense Cash Than Lawmakers Voting No


[-] -1 points by TropicalDepression (-45) 10 months ago

Silence in Congress and overall action on this probably means that party leaders are making phone calls to bribe the others into voting for it.